This thread apparently began in 2014, so it’s clear the issue won’t be resolved here. still entertaining to hash it out though. That said, I don’t really understand the recoil problem people describe with these. I have No. 1 rifles in 458, 450/400 and 375. I also own several in smaller calibers but that’s for another discussion. Of the big ones, The 450/400 with factory Hornady ammo, which is loaded very mild, might be the most pleasant to shoot. The 458 is a bit much for me, but that is also true in a bolt gun. The 458 barrel is very heavy and so I can’t say the rifle is too light. I probably couldn’t carry it all day as it is. I think the stocks are well designed for recoil, although they definitely need a better recoil pad. Aside from that, they have plenty of area placed on the shoulder to spread out the energy and the comb is pretty wide. The grip area is substantial as well. They might have a little more muzzle rise because they are shorter than bolt actions with similar barrel length. Maybe that gives the impression that they kick more. I love how they handle and carry, and they bespeak old British East Africa. I’ve taken them on 2 African hunts and 1 in New Zealand. If I am lucky enough to go again, a No. 1 will be my companion, including for Buffalo. I wish my eyes were still good enough to hunt with iron sights. My concession to modernity is to use a scope. Hunting with these enhances my experience and enjoyment of the hunt.