Rolex- the stupidest, lamest company

[Daniel Cary]

I've spent a fair amount on premium appliances over the years with a large variety of satisfaction/dissatisfaction on the appliances.

The only premium appliances I would buy at this point:

1.) Le Coureneu Range if you want to drop $25k-$45k. Or, a new or used Wolf range, ideally the 36" width. (the 36" has the largest oven capacity of any size from 30"-72" width) ($4500-$11000)

2.) SubZero fridge. Pricey, but very repairable. WORST case, you need a new compressor for a grand, but any HVAC guy can typically repair them out of warranty. I've bought them new, and I've been gifted used broken ones. (the broken one I got repaired and restored for $1100 as a 12 year old unit)

3.) Meile dishwashers. My last one died with 14,000 hours on it. That's equivalent to 7 years of full time employment washing dishes. Most luxury brands are rated 6000-8000 hours.


Specifically why I don't like your range choice:
It looks like its an induction range? You have to throw away all your pots and pans, including any good ones you might own for making good food. No flame, no visual temp control. NG or LP cooktop is how food gets cooked properly. No chef worth his salt uses electric.


Luxury appliance brands on my kill list:
Dacor, Jennaire, Viking, DCS, Fisher & Paykel, Bosch, Whirlpool Gold.

Bosch was recommended.
However, I simply replaced an Amana Microwave, only because the original lasted 20yrs.
$200 @rookhawk, I kid you not, it lasted 3 days ; Already has to be replaced, Lord.

I wish I had the funds to go high end. There's a lot of nice stuff out there!

 

[Altitude sickness]

Daniel, As a public service message to all members

Never open your microwave door while it’s operating. Always shut it off first.

Using the door switch to shut the microwave off. Sends all the operating load through that switch.
That will cause the door switch to fail. Cheap fix

Also, microwave ovens are sensitive to dirty voltage. They do not operate well on old generators or dirty utility voltage.


Quick internet search results.

Why is it bad for the motor of a microwave to open the door mid cycle without pressing the stop button?


Why is it bad for the motor of a microwave to open the door mid-cycle without pressing the stop button? It's not bad for the motor but it is bad for the door switches. When the microwave is running the power for the microwave transformer runs through the door safety switch system.Jun 28, 2018

 

[Daniel Cary]

Daniel, As a public service message to all members

Never open your microwave door while it’s operating. Always shut it off first.

Using the door switch to shut the microwave off. Sends all the operating load through that switch.
That will cause the door switch to fail. Cheap fix

Also, microwave ovens are sensitive to dirty voltage. They do not operate well on old generators or dirty utility voltage.

Honestly, thank you .. I do that often (open the door before it's finished) .. good tips here!
If I don't turn the dryer knob just right, it'll run continually ..

That quality of craftsmanship is a thing of the past, like everything. New vehicles, technology,

 

[Tango]

Thanks to the bad influence of BeeMaa I found a nice deal on a very clean Seamaster Planet Ocean. Thanks BeeMaa

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Congratulations, that's a fantastic piece! An absolute icon in the serious dive/outdoors tool watch world.

 

[Tanks]

I've spent a fair amount on premium appliances over the years with a large variety of satisfaction/dissatisfaction on the appliances.

The only premium appliances I would buy at this point:

1.) Le Coureneu Range if you want to drop $25k-$45k. Or, a new or used Wolf range, ideally the 36" width. (the 36" has the largest oven capacity of any size from 30"-72" width) ($4500-$11000)

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La Carnue, specifically The Château Series has been on my radar for a very long while. I wanted it for the summer place I built for myself, but it just did not fit in the modern look I wanted. My architect has the specs for the next house I will be building. I went with Franke (another European brand) for the look.

The kitchen area.

Stove top with dual ovens with a microwave on top of the left one. on the far wall Dual door fridge hidden to the right of the ovens.

 

[rookhawk]

Bosch was recommended.
However, I simply replaced an Amana Microwave, only because the original lasted 20yrs.
$200 @rookhawk, I kid you not, it lasted 3 days ; Already has to be replaced, Lord.

I wish I had the funds to go high end. There's a lot of nice stuff out there!

@Daniel Cary if you're actually going to heavily use the appliances, and you don't redo your entire kitchen every 7 years, it pays to buy once, cry once.

We're about to redo our kitchen at the new house, doubling it in size by removing an adjoining dining room. No joke, without being "over the top" on the build, we could spend $150,000-$200,000. Having been down this road before, here's what we are going to do.

1.) We're going to shop around for used Wolf 36" dual fuel range. Two subzero 36", one a fridge, one a freezer. A lightly used Tru wine chiller to convert into a steak ager.

2.) A new Braun stainless hood and roof blower. (the least expensive good quality one)

3.) A new miele dishwasher.

4.) Reuse our Marvel wine appliances.

The results? We'll save about $50,000-$65.000 on appliances and we can always buy another used or new replacement as they die. The brands and sizes we're seeking are the longest lasting and easiest to service off label, gray market, over their 30 year life expectancy.

We like good food and we live in a very rural community where there are really no good restaurants. Heck, even the major metro in our region is sorta mediocre for restaurants. It means we cook and entertain at home 6 days a week. Lobster and Steak at home is far cheaper than treating at Chilis or TGIF, hence we choose the better eating path. You need good appliances to cook well (and good cookware), but you don't have to spend a fortune. Buy a piece at a time and consider buying used on the simpler appliances that have less circuitry.

There is always someone in a multimillion dollar house going into Foreclosure. The classifieds are always full of adverts "come pay me cash today for my appliances, the bank gets the keys at the end of the week".

 

[Rocked and Loaded]

Render unto Caesar

Aplogies in advance for going off topic. That verse isn’t actually about taxes it’s about not being materialistic.

Taxation is only brought up by the Pharisees in order to trick Jesus into either admitting treason against Rome or advocating for collaboration with an occupier. Jesus beats them at their own game by showing how the worldly matter of taxation is unimportant in the Kingdom of God.

Further context in this situation is that the Roman emperor was deified so the question of why religious Jews like the Pharisees should be discussing coinage with what amounts to a pagan idol stamped on them further serves to embarrass those who tried to trick Jesus.

All this to say that while the verse is often used to support paying taxes, that is an overly simplistic and perhaps worldly interpretation of it.

 

[Tanks]

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There is always someone in a multimillion dollar house going into Foreclosure. The classifieds are always full of adverts "come pay me cash today for my appliances, the bank gets the keys at the end of the week".

Aren't things like stoves etc. are built-in in those homes and considered part of the property?

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

Aplogies in advance for going off topic. That verse isn’t actually about taxes it’s about not being materialistic.

Taxation is only brought up by the Pharisees in order to trick Jesus into either admitting treason against Rome or advocating for collaboration with an occupier. Jesus beats them at their own game by showing how the worldly matter of taxation is unimportant in the Kingdom of God.

Further context in this situation is that the Roman emperor was deified so the question of why religious Jews like the Pharisees should be discussing coinage with what amounts to a pagan idol stamped on them further serves to embarrass those who tried to trick Jesus.

All this to say that while the verse is often used to support paying taxes, that is an overly simplistic and perhaps worldly interpretation of it.

You’re partly correct but ultimately wrong.

Frankly, the assertion that it’s about materialism is a strange statement and strikes me as uninspired. I assure you that it is important to God that you pay your taxes to the government that you are under.

They were trying to trip Him up for the reasons you stated but His statement along with other scripture does in fact support paying taxes.

Christians are called to obey each and every law of the land up to and until they conflict with God’s law.

 

[Rocked and Loaded]

You’re partly correct but ultimately wrong.

Frankly, the assertion that it’s about materialism is a strange statement and strikes me as uninspired. I assure you that it is important to God that you pay your taxes to the government that you are under.

They were trying to trip Him up for the reasons you stated but His statement along with other scripture does in fact support paying taxes.

Christians are called to obey each and every law of the land up to and until they conflict with God’s law.

Sorry I think we’re using materialism differently. I don’t mean materialism as in obsession with acquiring things, I mean materialism in the philosophical sense, the material world. Worldliness might have been a better understood term.

God may want you to pay taxes and there are plenty of parts of the Bible focused on the relationship of mankind to the government but the verse in question is not really about taxes. The Pharisees don’t actually care about taxes either and in this verse are asking a worldly question but receive a spiritual answer. Which is consistent with most of Jesus’ teachings. Give unto God what is God’s.

 

[tward1604]

Personally, I have always wanted a Rolex Explorer 36mm. This thread has done nothing but make me want one more. Some people like crinkle cut fries and some folks like waffle fries and are willing to sit in the long Chic-fil-A line to get them.

 

[thriller]

Personally, I have always wanted a Rolex Explorer 36mm. This thread has done nothing but make me want one more. Some people like crinkle cut fries and some folks like waffle fries and are willing to sit in the long Chic-fil-A line to get them.

yeah but the Chic-fil-A is really fast

 

[tward1604]

yeah but the Chic-fil-A is really fast

Please come tell my local store to be fast . I hear you though.

 

[Daniel Cary]

I do appreciate good decor, however, just found this "Architectual Digest" Magazine @ the Dentist & came across this picture .. There are some bad ideas out there .. Jesus.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

Sorry I think we’re using materialism differently. I don’t mean materialism as in obsession with acquiring things, I mean materialism in the philosophical sense, the material world. Worldliness might have been a better understood term.

God may want you to pay taxes and there are plenty of parts of the Bible focused on the relationship of mankind to the government but the verse in question is not really about taxes. The Pharisees don’t actually care about taxes either and in this verse are asking a worldly question but receive a spiritual answer. Which is consistent with most of Jesus’ teachings. Give unto God what is God’s.

I see what you’re saying but the entire verse takes care of both issues. I know they didn’t sincerely care but Jesus addressed both issues for the record (for obvious reasons). I think you can use the statement about rendering unto Caesar like it was in this thread to address the tax issue (without using it out of context) but obviously the entire verse ought to be fleshed out in a serious discussion. The statement of “taxation is theft” (which honestly is such an ignorant statement that it doesn’t really deserve being addressed) is what was being addressed here.

 

[Tgood1]

This is now the perfect thread for my untreated ADHD

 

[thriller]

I do appreciate good decor, however, just found this "Architectual Digest" Magazine @ the Dentist & came across this picture .. There are some bad ideas out there .. Jesus.
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This giant photo over the bed is staged with a "F#%k off we're Closed" sign next to it!!! who puts the crap together.

 

[Rimbaud]

This thread has covered it all. The recent comments on taxation reminded me of what Judge Learned Hand wrote many years ago: "Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes."

 

[Daniel Cary]

I see what you’re saying but the entire verse takes care of both issues. I know they didn’t sincerely care but Jesus addressed both issues for the record (for obvious reasons). I think you can use the statement about rendering unto Caesar like it was in this thread to address the tax issue (without using it out of context) but obviously the entire verse ought to be fleshed out in a serious discussion. The statement of “taxation is theft” (which honestly is such an ignorant statement that it doesn’t really deserve being addressed) is what was being addressed here.

If I may, I love getting into the "Living Word". Tithing means Taxes, the church was the biggest part of the community, for the well-being of the people in the city, financially & spiritually.
We need taxes to run a Country, City ,, It's the wasteful spending of our taxes that is theft.

 

[freefall]

I do appreciate good decor, however, just found this "Architectual Digest" Magazine @ the Dentist & came across this picture .. There are some bad ideas out there .. Jesus.
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Eye bleach needed!! STAT!!