Refining your dangerous game cartridge selection over the years

Don't you have one beeing built ?
Krish
Are you trying to say I can only have one? :ROFLMAO:

I'm still eyeballing that nice looking CZ550 in 450 Rigby that you have. :K Love Eyes:

Besides, what Tina doesn't know won't hurt me.
 
So I’d like to say my DG cartridge selection has refined but it hasn’t, or maybe it has in a way?
So being a collector as well as a hunter I’ve always had aspersions of a 416 Rigby and/or a 404 Jeffery. Also rounds like the 450 Rigby and 465 H&H have allure…
Truth is that for even Dangerous Game in North America and with all of the game in Africa except DG my 338WinMag will do it all no problems!
I even bought a bunch of 404 Jeff and 416 Rigby ammunition in anticipation of building and just ended up selling some and giving some away on our “Pay it Forward” thread…
So there where my initial plans and now I have refined them lol
It just hit me that the 375 H&H Parent Case can cover all bases and ever magnum I own now is on the 375 case (264, 7STW, 300, 338, 375, and 458), so going forward I’m just going to buy and build rifles off of that case…
A 400 H&H instead of the 404 or 416, a 470 Capstick instead of a 465 or 500 and so on…
 
Looking back, I don’t believe there has been much of an evolution in my case, at least in regard to Africa. On our first African Safari 27 plus years ago, I chose a Winchester M70 Safari Express in 416 Rem Mag as my DG rifle for buff and hippo.

While I traded the above rifle years ago, I’ve always been a loyal fan of the .416 cal and later acquired a CZ 416 Rigby which I successfully used recently on a one rifle African Safari for cow buffalo, kudu, warthog and impala.

In truth, a good 375 H&H would have met all my African “needs,” just fine, however, I slightly favor the .416 cal over the great 375 H&H but I can’t really articulate why other than I can shoot it well and I just like it!

For North American DG, the big bears, bison, then non DG like moose and elk, I acquired a Remington 700 custom shop 375 RUM with 235 grain Barnes TSX handloads. It was to be my do it all rifle and caliber for everything I hunted in North America.

It did account for bison, elk and large boar yet after awhile, I noticed I was killing elk just as dead with a 7mm mag and I had no desire to kill another grizzly/brown bear, so it currently sits in limbo inside my safe.
 
I've been through a few. I won't count the 9.3mm's since they aren't considered full dangerous game rifles in all countries, even though I have a great fondness for my 9.3x62 and 9x74R rifles, and I think they are dangerous game capable.

First were a bunch of .375 H&H rifles.

Beginning with a Ruger RSM .375 H&H. Accurate, well made, looked good. But the bolt handle was far too small for the chubby stock, and was difficult to grasp or palm while reloading quickly. The trigger was very gritty and rough too. It was chubby and heavy. Sold it.

Next was a Beautiful Sako AV Safari .375 H&H. Handled superbly, balance was exquisite, style sublime. But accuracy was never what I was expecting. I tried various loads, re-crowned the barrel, epoxy and pillar bedded the stock, and tried a slew of factory ammo and reloads. 2" at 100 yds was about its best effort. It went down the road.

Then I tried a highly recommended CZ500 AHR custom full #3 upgrade. Beautiful rifle. Another .375 H&H. It never shot very accurately, didn't feed smoothly, scored the cartridge cases due to some some roughness in the feed rails, was too big and heavy, and it went away in a trade.

Then came a Sako M85 Laminated/stainless "Kodiak". Accurate, smooth, good handling. But the ejected cases sometimes hit the scope turret and fell back into the action. I got a skilled machinist to make me a new extractor with tighter tolerances and it became perfectly reliable. A new favourite. Then it sheared off the action screws - twice. I found out the recoil plate attached into the stock with two small wood screws had shifted, and needed to be epoxy bedded. I did that, fixed the cracked stock that resulted from the last sheared-off screw incident, and had no more trouble. I shoots accurately, operates smoothly, and balances very well in the hands. I like the secure 4 shot detachable magazine system and the wonderful open sights. Recoil is very manageable. A keeper.

Then I wondered about all the hype around historic Winchester M70 rifles. "Controlled round feed" and all that. Bought a current production M70 Alaskan. Forward balance with its long barrel, which I like. Crappy fold-down iron sights, a forgivable design flaw. Smooth operation, secure feeding and ejection, but only three cartridges in the magazine. But it would fail to fire one out of every three or four shots. Light primer strikes. I had a good factory authorized gunsmith check headspace, firing pin protrusion, and ammunition measurements. All were OK and within specs. It turns out that the Winchester factory in Portugal had installed a striker spring that was much too weak. I ordered a warranty replacement, and waited almost a full year for the new spring. The M70 now shoots reliably with the new spring, all primers are properly indented. But I've lost faith in the rifle. I'm trying to like it, but no joy. I'll give it another year, but I may just keep the Sako and call it my one and only .375

My only other dangerous game rifle is a Merkel 140 AE .450-400 3" Nitro Express double barrel rifle. I bought it used from a gentleman who wanted to hunt dangerous game but never actually went to Africa. It was supposedly regulated for Federal ammunition according to the factory test target. But Federal has never loaded .450-400 3" as far as I can determine. And it didn't shoot particularly well with Hornady DG ammunition. So I sent it off to JJ Perodeau in the USA , and at some considerable expense had it regulated for the commonly available Hornady ammunition. All good now! It is fitted with good Recknagel pivot mount and a Karl Kaps 1-4x scope. A great combination that improves its accuracy and reach.

It shoots accurately, operates reliably, and I think the .450-400 3" 400 grain bullet hits with more authority than the .375 H&H. I've used it for a couple of cape buffalo so far, and a moose and an elk closer to home. Oddly for a double rifle, all game was taken at ranges over 80 M. I'm thankful I have a scope attached. All game was killed quickly and with full satisfaction.

So If not considering my 9.3's I'd have to say my Sako M85 Kodiak .375H&H and my Merkel 140 AE .450-400 are my go-to dangerous game rifles, after trying a few. I have no desire to own any larger cartridges.

I have hunted with a rented .416 Remington Magnum, which I used to take elephant and plains game, I can see the charm and utility of that cartridge. It's just not for me at this stage in my hunting career.
 
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I'm very new to the DG rifle scene, and can definitely see how one can accumulate calibers over the years after reading these posts!

I started off with a 9.3x62 built off a commercial FN action from a donor Husqvarna rifle. It ended up not being ready in time for my last trip to SA so it's only seen action on hogs here in TX so far.

During the process of putting together the 9.3 I talked to a number of gunsmiths, one of whom ended up calling me a couple months ago about a consignment 404 Jeffery he had in that was built by Jeffery in the 1920s and had been restocked after a safari accident in Kenya. Pretty easy decision and I'm now selling the 9.3 to offset this purchase! Looking forward to taking this with me to SA and Mozambique next year.

While I like to think that I'll be sticking with the 404 for the rest of my DG, I think this thread has hammered home that will likely not be the case.
 

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This is certainly a conversation worth having and after considerable thought, I do believe I've figured our how to answer your question appropriately.

There are two things to consider when choosing your african battery for modern safaris as the days of months long hunts are over and baggage limits are a constraint. This alone should limmit your rifle selection to 2 per trip at a maximum.

Here are the two major considerations.

1. The variety of game you could possibly be presented with, given the area and your desires.

2. Your personal experience and comfort level with the rifles you have at your disposal. (Please don't make the mistake of going on safari with a rifle/rifles you haven't gone over and shot thoroughly)

After having used or seen used just about everything that is available and suitable for dangerous game hunting, I have indeed refined my personal selection. The two rifles and cartridges that I've settled on are the .416 Rigby and the .577 Nitro Express. I'll explain my reasoning.

The .416 Rigby (or any .416 cartridge that can push a 400gr projectile over 2250fps) is quite an ideal all around African hunting choice in areas where dangerous game can be encountered. It shoots plenty flat enough for shots that probably shouldn't be taken and hits plenty hard enough to get anythings attention, from tiny to tremendous. I much prefer .416s to the 375s and 458s in a bolt rifle.

The .577 Nitro Express is quite a speciality item but in my personal and very humble opinion, it can't be matched by anything smaller when the chips are down. I've seen buffalo hit rather squarely in the chest with the 500s and not flinch, they were dead of course but still had the momentum and steam to sort you out. Now, that same shot taken with a .577 has and will, quite literally stop them in their tracks. Again, she is a speciality tool but when it comes to truly big and dangerous game, it's hard to beat.

Take from this what you wish and I hope the coming months and years find us all able to pursue what we enjoy most, almost. Happy hunting.
 

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