Rare Breed should be expelled

[Uncontrolled_round_feed]

It’s 2:1 in favor of the fraudster so far
But here’s the question ye must ask yourselves: do ye want to be a part of a forum where a popular guy can misrepresent a sale, say he’ll fix the problem, then not do so, lie about it and face no repercussions? That is where we are going but I hope Jerome can provide a steadier hand.

 

[Doug3006]

Expelled? Nonsense! The purchase price and part of the shipping was refunded.

 

[Newboomer]

Is this high school now?

Some are blaming the seller. Let's take another tack. Buyer should have requested current photos of the gun before entering into negotiations. That would have eliminated the whole thing about condition. Buyer could have seen what he was buying, it's condition, and made a decision based on that information.
Since he didn't, he has only himself to blame. I am sure buyer would have provided all pertinent information IF ASKED.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Well I’ve recently been labeled a pirate so I’m probably no longer qualified to offer up any comments on gentlemanly conduct but to me the answer is clear. White gloves and dueling pistols at 20 paces….

Seriously though if we start kicking people off for conduct we don’t like @redleg @WAB and @Wyatt Smith are going to be lonely here all by themselves,

 

[JimP]

It's hard to find a perfect person but I'm here if you need one

 

[RR 314]

First of all, many of you guys missed a Big Lebowski reference earlier. Now this. Hell, I think I’m giving myself 10 demerits and leaving on my own. The republic is lost

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

First of all, many of you guys missed a Big Lebowski reference earlier. Now this. Hell, I think I’m giving myself 10 demerits and leaving on my own. The republic is lost

This is not nam Smokey this is bowling and in bowling there are rules.

 

[RR 314]

This is not nam Smokey this is bowling and in bowling there are rules.

Yeah, this whole thread is, “Over the line!” .

In fact, for another great quote, “ It’s like playing cards with my brother‘s kids. Nerve-racking sons of biyatches.”

 

[Uncontrolled_round_feed]

This is not nam Smokey this is bowling and in bowling there are rules.

Humor appreciated

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Yeah, this whole thread is, “Over the line!” .

In fact, for another great quote, “ It’s like playing cards with my brother‘s kids. Nerve-racking sons of biyatches.”

Oh Johnny I apologize, I forgot you where there you may go now.

 

[RR 314]

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Humor appreciated

Humor is one thing that separates us from coffee tables. Embrace it.

My filter is gone for the night. I have chatted with numerous friends on here about this deal in private messages and in conversations. I conveyed the same in a private message to the purchaser/purchaser’s agent and we had a good chat over pm. This will be my last comment. Scout’s Honor. By the way, I was never a scout. My mom signed me up at church and before I even attended a meeting, some dork kept calling me about what kind of trail mix I wanted for some jamboree or something. I kick puppies and did not like the Boy Scouts as a child. Sorry.

OK, back to something of relevance. I did reach out to the buyer’s agent and told him that he/his BIL absolutely dodged a bullet on that purchase at the agreed upon price. The components did ease some of the pain, but ironically, that is the hang up now. I can say this now as Rare Breed has indicated he is not going to relist the gun here, but will list on GB or GI. Even if shipping is not worked out, with new knowledge, I would be doing backflips to be out a handful of hundreds on this $20,000 purchase.

Good day to all. I’m taking my ten demerits like a man, or very masculine woman, and signing off. Carry on.

 

[Andrew Short]

Just wow….

 

[Uncontrolled_round_feed]

Humor is one thing that separates us from coffee tables. Embrace it.

My filter is gone for the night. I have chatted with numerous friends on here about this deal in private messages and in conversations. I conveyed the same in a private message to the purchaser/purchaser’s agent and we had a good chat over pm. This will be my last comment. Scout’s Honor. By the way, I was never a scout. My mom signed me up at church and before I even attended a meeting, some dork kept calling me about what kind of trail mix I wanted for some jamboree or something. I kick puppies and did not like the Boy Scouts as a child. Sorry.

OK, back to something of relevance. I did reach out to the buyer’s agent and told him that he/his BIL absolutely dodged a bullet on that purchase at the agreed upon price. The components did ease some of the pain, but ironically, that is the hang up now. I can say this now as Rare Breed has indicated he is not going to relist the gun here, but will list on GB or GI. Even if shipping is not worked out, with new knowledge, I would be doing backflips to be out a handful of hundreds on this $20,000 purchase.

Good day to all. I’m taking my tender merits like a man, or very masculine woman, and signing off. Carry on.

The post-deal review of the relative value has no bearing on whether the seller grifted the buyer. And whether the seller should face consequences

 

[towserthemouser]

@Uncontrolled_round_feed I don't know you sir, and as a matter of fact I don't personally know either of the parties involved in this debacle.

I voted no.

1.) You sound like a mighty righteous fella. I myself am deeply flawed.
2.) I haven't yet been able to identify which one is your dog in this fight.
3.) I'm not sure if I would want to buy something from the seller in the future. I am also not sure I would not want to sell something to the buyer.
4.) I don't think the use of a clown meme to belittle a fellow member is helpful.
5.) I agree with you that honor is important, no argument at all there.
6.) The whole affair is sad, and has become boring. Are we gonna divide up sides now, and split the forum? Are we gonna wind up losing way more than one member over this? I hope not. There are NOT ENOUGH OF US TO BEGIN WITH. WE ARE LOSING GROUND EVERY YEAR IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION ABOUT HUNTING. Every single one of us has important contributions to make, and that needs to continue for years to come. This needs to be the website you love to check every day, because it's fun and pleasant and educational and relevant and helpful. Please try to consider the viewpoint of a young person who might wander on to this forum, curious about the world of African hunting that we all love so much, keen to learn and contribute, and maybe help lead in the future. He or she could easily be disgusted by all this and just quietly leave. I hope that every single one of us will choose to carry themselves with dignity, and to represent our ancient and noble sport honorably. And I hope that when I make mistakes, I will be offered some grace, and a little bit of breathing room, a chance to learn from my mistakes and say I'm sorry, and a chance at redemption.

At this point I am praying that both @Rare Breed and @franzfmdavis will choose to find some private way to work things out to the satisfaction of both parties (that will no doubt require some old-fashioned giving and taking from both gentlemen), and then publicly "shake hands" and bury this toxic hatchet before it does even more damage to all concerned.

This is January: we just had the DSC and they had some weather and attendance issues, and we have the SCI next week and the weather again looks challenging. Many of the folks who make all this possible for us have invested their money and flown across the planet to meet us and hear from us and get to know us, and to promote this industry. Plans are being laid by many for the hunting that will happen this year and next. And this forum has been torn up for too long now over this shit show. We have so many more interesting and important things to talk about.

Gentlemen, I call on you both to please make that effort.

Offered with respect and warm regards for all.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Humor is one thing that separates us from coffee tables. Embrace it.

My filter is gone for the night. I have chatted with numerous friends on here about this deal in private messages and in conversations. I conveyed the same in a private message to the purchaser/purchaser’s agent and we had a good chat over pm. This will be my last comment. Scout’s Honor. By the way, I was never a scout. My mom signed me up at church and before I even attended a meeting, some dork kept calling me about what kind of trail mix I wanted for some jamboree or something. I kick puppies and did not like the Boy Scouts as a child. Sorry.

OK, back to something of relevance. I did reach out to the buyer’s agent and told him that he/his BIL absolutely dodged a bullet on that purchase at the agreed upon price. The components did ease some of the pain, but ironically, that is the hang up now. I can say this now as Rare Breed has indicated he is not going to relist the gun here, but will list on GB or GI. Even if shipping is not worked out, with new knowledge, I would be doing backflips to be out a handful of hundreds on this $20,000 purchase.

Good day to all. I’m taking my tender merits like a man, or very masculine woman, and signing off. Carry on.

 

[Andrew Short]

@Uncontrolled_round_feed I don't know you sir, and as a matter of fact I don't personally know either of the parties involved in this debacle.

I voted no.

1.) You sound like a mighty righteous fella. I myself am deeply flawed.
2.) I haven't yet been able to identify which one is your dog in this fight.
3.) I'm not sure if I would want to buy something from the seller in the future. I am also not sure I would not want to sell something to the buyer.
4.) I don't think the use of a clown meme to belittle a fellow member is helpful.
5.) I agree with you that honor is important, no argument at all there.
6.) The whole affair is sad, and has become boring. Are we gonna divide up sides now, and split the forum? Are we gonna wind up losing way more than one member over this? I hope not. There are NOT ENOUGH OF US TO BEGIN WITH. WE ARE LOSING GROUND EVERY YEAR IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION ABOUT HUNTING. Every single one of us has important contributions to make, and that needs to continue for years to come. This needs to be the website you love to check every day, because it's fun and pleasant and educational and relevant and helpful. Please try to consider the viewpoint of a young person who might wander on to this forum, curious about the world of African hunting that we all love so much, keen to learn and contribute, and maybe help lead in the future. He or she could easily be disgusted by all this and just quietly leave. I hope that every single one of us will choose to carry themselves with dignity, and to represent our ancient and noble sport honorably. And I hope that when I make mistakes, I will be offered some grace, and a little bit of breathing room, a chance to learn from my mistakes and say I'm sorry, and a chance at redemption.

At this point I am praying that both @Rare Breed and @franzfmdavis will choose to find some private way to work things out to the satisfaction of both parties (that will no doubt require some old-fashioned giving and taking from both gentlemen), and then publicly "shake hands" and bury this toxic hatchet before it does even more damage to all concerned.

This is January: we just had the DSC and they had some weather and attendance issues, and we have the SCI next week and the weather again looks challenging. Many of the folks who make all this possible for us have invested their money and flown across the planet to meet us and hear from us and get to know us, and to promote this industry. Plans are being laid by many for the hunting that will happen this year and next. And this forum has been torn up for too long now over this shit show. We have so many more interesting and important things to talk about.

Gentlemen, I call on you both to please make that effort.

Offered with respect and warm regards for all.

Preach!

 

[alby]

Yeah, this whole thread is, “Over the line!” .

In fact, for another great quote, “ It’s like playing cards with my brother‘s kids. Nerve-racking sons of biyatches.”

"I'm your Huckleberry!"

 

[WoodencrossIII]

To me this really is a terrible thing, we are not talking about a rifle costing only $500, gosh not even $2000 it was a $20,000 rifle. I saw the pictures I would have been mad as a hornet, regardless if I had asked for pictures prior to payment I hate that someone would mishandle such a rifle. I am not a rich man financially enough to purchase one of those yet, (rich) other ways , but I hate dishonesty. I abhor it and I have as a member here felt there is a great deal of honest folks, the forum shan’t suffer but let there be a lesson learned here. Honesty and above boards always and I pray I listen to my own words too.

 

[Datchew]

Dumb thread. It's a public Internet forum. Ignore if you don't like it.

Seems like stirring the pot to propose people vote on removing someone they don't like.

 

[RR 314]

The post-deal review of the relative value has no bearing on whether the seller grifted the buyer. And whether the seller should face consequences

Wait a second. You were that Boy Scout asking me which kind of trail mix I wanted, weren’t you?

Let it die. Seriously. Not your call or fight. Put the pillow down.