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I know the subject of Spencer's double rifle came up before, but I can't seem to find the thread.

What was the consensus on what his double rifle is? On the episode I am watching he says it's in .416 Rigby.
 
The rigby cartridge was developed in nineteen eleven, and the company built the first double in that chambering in nineteen twelve… so historically it’s entirely possible a guy that was hunting in Africa in nineteen twenty three could be using one..
 
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Good question! In the previous episode on the train when be checked that it was loaded it looked to me like it was perhaps a 9.3x74r. Not sure.
 

Rock Islands take on Spencer Duttons rifles
 
In one still, it looks like it has a regulation screw, which I don’t think Sabatti’s have. I’m thinking it’s a Rizzini Rhino
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From a GI post for a Rhino

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I was going to post the RIA link but ya beat me to it! It's not English for sure...looks Sabbati. I haven't watched this weekend's episode yet. A double in 416 Rigby doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The rimmed 500/416 of more recent manufacture is the double version of a 416 Rigby...400s at about 2400fps. However, since when has Hollywood been concerned with getting firearms correct? We are the only ones that care about that and they don't make shows for us.
 
I’ve been told what brand of double is in 1923 before, but I cannot remember it now. I believe it was a British maker recently on the scene. Nothing the average fanatic has ever heard of. It may have been the same guy that made the rifle for the Bond film Skyfall.

The props department certainly got it wrong though, from the caliber to the coin finish, nothing is correct to the era. A 470, 500, 450/400, 465, 475, those would have been correct rimmed cartridges from the era. Nearly 100% of the guns would have been color case hardened, almost all of them worn to gray patina in just a couple years of use. A small handful would have been pewter color, having had their color case removed at the factory. None would have been coin finished.
 
I’ve been told what brand of double is in 1923 before, but I cannot remember it now. I believe it was a British maker recently on the scene. Nothing the average fanatic has ever heard of. It may have been the same guy that made the rifle for the Bond film Skyfall.

The props department certainly got it wrong though, from the caliber to the coin finish, nothing is correct to the era. A 470, 500, 450/400, 465, 475, those would have been correct rimmed cartridges from the era. Nearly 100% of the guns would have been color case hardened, almost all of them worn to gray patina in just a couple years of use. A small handful would have been pewter color, having had their color case removed at the factory. None would have been coin finished.

The maker I was thinking of is Anderson Wheeler. That’s what I was told anyway. The work looks similar with a straight-back boxlock.

Postscript: I do think the photo above of the Rizzini Rhino’s regulating wedge torx bolt is compelling. I didn’t see any scallop the boxlock on the series, however.
 
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I appreciate the details provided regarding his Double Rifle (by knowledgeable AH Members) is much more interesting then the entire show — except for some of the Nude scenes. I still watched every episode but the excessive violence, cruelty, sexual assaults, and general “bad luck” that guy & his Wife have getting from Africa to Montana has gotten RIDICULOUS (his ship sunk; he killed a rich guy on an Ocean liner; ran into the Mafia & corrupt sheriff, killed 2 bums on a train,,,,and he STILL HASN’t REACHED MONTANA after 3 seasons !! And his Wife is even LESS Lucky..
I thought 1883 was better, thought Yellowstone was better…..disappointed in 1923. But can’t take my eyes off the train wreck
 

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