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This is a disaster..
Next jump in political and economic pressure ladder will be when oil storage facilities are full, and production without export has to be stopped.
My guess the last to stop is saudi, as they have a sort of releif valve through their pipline to red sea, but still not sufficient. Weeks to go.
They will be forced to declare "force majeure" one by one. Some already have.
Then what?
 
 

Escorting tankers through Hormuz with the US Navy..? Its not happening.. Will it happen..?

If Hormuz cannot be opened it spells global economic resession folks..
 
Regime change my a$$...you are burning one billion dollars per day for what..? Setting the middle east ablaze..Dubai, Oman, Bahrain..Saudi.. Hormuz de facto closed..crude $101 per barrel and rising..

What the hell are you people doing...conducting a holy war against Islam along with Israel..??

Is nothing learned from Iraq and Afghanistan..?

This is a disaster..

Sorry my fiend but I disagree on this...

What government is sending armed drones and missiles into neighboring countries? Not the USA!

What government is terrorizing, attacking its neighbors to maintain control of the Middle East and the Strait of Hormuz so that it alone controls 20% of the oil that the world intends to use? Not the USA!

What government has for the past 47 years publically stated, “Death to America” and “Death to Israel”? Once again, not the USA.

What government has sponsored and funded terrorism against the USA, Israel, and other western countries for 47 years? Not the USA!

What government recently murdered somewhere around 30,000 of its citizens for protesting against it? You guessed it, not the USA.

What government that kills thousands of its own people, sponsors terrorism, and publically states “Death to America” was up until about 12 days ago getting close to developing the capability of producing nuclear warheads for the thousands of missiles they at the time possessed? Yup, not the USA!

What country that I believe you know well was occupied by Nazi troops during WWII? The answer is of course Norway. I don’t have the information readily available so suppose you remind all what the Nazi’s did to your Jewish population during the occupation? That was not your or my fault but what could have been done during the late 1930’s to prevent 20 million people losing their lives from 1939 to 1945?

How did the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps come to power in Iran? How did the Nazis gain power so quickly in Germany? How does evil anywhere at any time in history gain control and power? There are of course many factors enabling evil to gain support but only because, “Good men did nothing to prevent it”!

The USA has had seven presidents that have done little to eliminate the evil controlling Iran and terrorizing the free world. Our last two presidents even enabled the current evil Iranian government to fund terrorism and further develop a nuclear weapon capability. Then along came President Trump who has publically criticized that evil as far back as 40 years ago.

People often praise the heroes in books and movies. Those fictional heroes who stand up against evil at great risk to themselves. While Trump nor his sons are going are battle, Trump despite his many flaws has saddled up and is eliminating an evil.

Evil continues to exist if good men do nothing.

Finally, if Winston Churchill were alive today and in Trump’s position, what would he do?
 
Regime change my a$$...you are burning one billion dollars per day for what..? Setting the middle east ablaze..Dubai, Oman, Bahrain..Saudi.. Hormuz de facto closed..crude $101 per barrel and rising..

What the hell are you people doing...conducting a holy war against Islam along with Israel..??

Is nothing learned from Iraq and Afghanistan..?

This is a disaster..
I have seen a lot of posts on Facebook lately with another name for the operation, Epstein Fury instead of Epic Fury...

Suggesting that it was intended to draw attention away from the Epstein files rather then a real need to strike Iran, I guess Trump exposed himself to ideas like that when he in june adamantly claimed that the strikes he ordered against the Iranian nuclear facilities was so severe that they would not be able to rebuild.
 

Escorting tankers through Hormuz with the US Navy..? Its not happening.. Will it happen..?

If Hormuz cannot be opened it spells global economic resession folks..

Perhaps but if good men do nothing this evil that the Iranian government current is will continue to infect all countries until Sharia Law enslaves the world. It looks like some European countries are on that path there already! May God help you all.
 
"Sorry my fiend but I disagree on this...

What government is sending armed drones and missiles into neighboring countries? Not the USA!

What government is terrorizing, attacking its neighbors to maintain control of the Middle East and the Strait of Hormuz so that it alone controls 20% of the oil that the world intends to use? Not the USA! "

Iran started firing drones and missiles at neighbour gulf states only after USA/Israel started bombing Iran..

The Hormuz straight was open for tanker traffic UNTIL you and Israel launch a war against Iran..
 
"Sorry my fiend but I disagree on this...

What government is sending armed drones and missiles into neighboring countries? Not the USA!

What government is terrorizing, attacking its neighbors to maintain control of the Middle East and the Strait of Hormuz so that it alone controls 20% of the oil that the world intends to use? Not the USA! "

Iran started firing drones and missiles at neighbour gulf states only after USA/Israel started bombing Iran..

The Hormuz straight was open for tanker traffic UNTIL you and Israel launch a war against Iran..

Your past generations learned to live under Nazi occupation. I suppose your generation can learn to live under Sharia Law. I sincerely hope you will not need to!
 
There is no Sharia law up here..please stop talking nonsense..

Why on earth are you people running along with Bibi and his right wingers on this..? Those people have a religious take in this to expand Israel on the expence of arabs.. Some even suggested using a nuclear weapon on Gaza.. Dont you see the madness in this..?

You are really into a quagmire now..
 
There is no Sharia law up here..please stop talking nonsense..

Why on earth are you people running along with Bibi and his right wingers on this..? Those people have a religious take in this to expand Israel on the expence of arabs.. Some even suggested using a nuclear weapon on Gaza.. Dont you see the madness in this..?

You are really into a quagmire now..
I have expressed extreme displeasure at the methods used in this campaign, and will continue to do so. However, anyone that thinks allowing the Islamic Republic of Iran to continue along the path it has taken since 1980 is absolutely insane.
 
"Sorry my fiend but I disagree on this...

What government is sending armed drones and missiles into neighboring countries? Not the USA!

What government is terrorizing, attacking its neighbors to maintain control of the Middle East and the Strait of Hormuz so that it alone controls 20% of the oil that the world intends to use? Not the USA! "

Iran started firing drones and missiles at neighbour gulf states only after USA/Israel started bombing Iran..

The Hormuz straight was open for tanker traffic UNTIL you and Israel launch a war against Iran..

What government has been giving drones and missiles to Russia to bomb Ukraine.

What government gave weapons and funding to Hamas and Hezbollah to orchestrate October 7th.

What government is giving missiles to the Houthanis to launch at ships, countries, etc.

Iran was already at war with the West, just most people refused to acknowledge it.

So please spare me your hand wringing about the price of oil.

Also, dont understand how one of the most effective military operations maybe in the history of military operations is considered a quagmire after 2 weeks.
 
Where is the strategy..? Bomb Iran by the scorched earth prinsiple..and then what..? This is not Iraq...no sign of them giving up.

One billion dollars per day..

Is there any strategy after the bombing..? Leave Iran to itself to implode into a civil war aka Syria..?

You eloquently leave out the fact that the neighbouring gulf states are burning and one fifth of the global dayly oil consumption is stopped.
 
If this war drag out with crude stabilizing at ca. $100 (best scenario) it could result in a global recession..but I guess that mean nothing to you..
 
Oil has been $100 a bbl before and we’ve made it. People are so soft these days. Europeans should perhaps worry about arming up, growing their gdp and protecting their women and girls from the third world hordes they’ve allowed in. Suicidal empathy at its finest.

I think I’d also worry about and Iran with nukes who could shut down the Strait anytime they wanted..
 
Iran was far from being able to put together a nuclear weapon. Mossad knew that. CIA knew that..

The administration is lying to you...
 
What government has been giving drones and missiles to Russia to bomb Ukraine.

What government gave weapons and funding to Hamas and Hezbollah to orchestrate October 7th.

What government is giving missiles to the Houthanis to launch at ships, countries, etc.

Iran was already at war with the West, just most people refused to acknowledge it.

So please spare me your hand wringing about the price of oil.

Also, dont understand how one of the most effective military operations maybe in the history of military operations is considered a quagmire after 2 weeks.
I think most people in the west probably feel that it was the right decision to strike Iran but I am not so sure that the military operation is one of the most efffective in history. Perhaps it was bad intelligence but I think that it should have been possible to make better preparations done to fend of those Shahed drones, perhaps using ukrainian know-how to build up a credible defense against those kind of cheap drones before launching the campaign instead of trying to do it during the campaign. It would seem that using expensive interceptors are just depleting the US inventory and weakening its ability to defend against for example ballistic or interballistic missiles.
 

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