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[VertigoBE]

And you no doubt are just an angry troll, who probably kicks his dog every morning to start the day.
Crawl back under the bridge, and wallow in your TDS.

this is unnecessary @Brent in Az

 

[Tundra Tiger]

this is unnecessary @Brent in Az

I honestly think Brent is projecting with that one... except the TDS part.

 

[Brent in Az]

FYI,
You are certainly free to share your opinions, but when you resort to name calling and personal character attacks on people who you know nothing about, it destroys your own credibility when you are asserting your opinions...

Just curious... Are you Canadian or an American residing in Canada?

Trolls will troll

 

[Brent in Az]

this is unnecessary @Brent in Az

Not when a forum jackwagon tries to antagonize.
All is fair in love and war

 

[Tucketed]

Guys, Life is too short.

 

[BSO Dave]

Now allow me a question back. Do you think Brent's comments to me were civil or is there some other reason you chose to take me to task in that regard and not him?

Not trying to take you to task at all... I'm very simply saying that name calling, or character insults are the first indication that the facts have gone out of an argument... You are not the first, just the most recent forum member I have mentioned this to...

With that being said, of the limited posts of yours I have seen, some seem to be provocative and maybe a little condescending towards those that support Trump policies... Insulting them personally is not a winning argument... That's all...

 

[Brent in Az]

Fair question Dave.

I am a Canadian.

Normally I would agree with you on the civility point. But my learned friend in Arizona has a long history of calling me and other folks childish names, including his classic of calling the WSJ "marxists". He also has a habit of saying things that are simply not true. I'm not a big fan of that.

Now allow me a question back. Do you think Brent's comments to me were civil or is there some other reason you chose to take me to task in that regard and not him?

Civility is a two way street. Something that seems to escape you, when your original comment was a disparaging remark aimed directly at me with the sole intent to antagonize and stir the shit pot. You do that fairly frequently.
So tell me, who is being childish?

Hypocrisy much?

As far as saying things that arent true, please reference one of my posts were I lied? I'll wait.

I've been playing nice on the forum lately, until someone like you comes along and decides to try and push my buttons.
Don't act like you are some sort of victim. I give what I receive, and I won't ever back down from the likes of you, or anyone else.

 

[RLD]

Not trying to take you to task at all... I'm very simply saying that name calling, or character insults are the first indication that the facts have gone out of an argument... You are not the first, just the most recent forum member I have mentioned this to...

With that being said, of the limited posts of yours I have seen, some seem to be provocative and maybe a little condescending towards those that support Trump policies... Insulting them personally is not a winning argument... That's all...

Guess I won't be getting an answer to that question. Fair enough.

 

[RLD]

Civility is a two way street. Something that seems to escape you, when your original comment was a disparaging remark aimed directly at me with the sole intent to antagonize and stir the shit pot. You do that fairly frequently.
So tell me, who is being childish?

Hypocrisy much?

As far as saying things that arent true, please reference one of my posts were I lied? I'll wait.

I've been playing nice on the forum lately, until someone like you comes along and decides to try and push my buttons.
Don't act like you are some sort of victim. I give what I receive, and I won't ever back down from the likes of you, or anyone else.

A) the WSJ are marxists

B) your claim that antifa were about to attack an ICE facility

C) your claim about the SCOTUS case allowing third country deporations again being a smackdown - clearly misleading.

Your connection to the truth or facts is tenuous at best. And if you can't take critique of your inaccurate take on political issues perhaps you shouldn't post them in a political forum.

The height of your responses rises to "kick your dog", "you are a troll", "your IQ is low".

The minute a substantive issue comes up you spray second grade insults. Makes one think you don't really have a clue about any of the issues you like to shout about.

 

[BSO Dave]

Guess I won't be getting an answer to that question. Fair enough.

I thought I did answer...

I don't condone personal attacks either way... However, Brent is a counterpuncher... If you feel he insulted you, it's probably a result of the condescending, and/or antagonizing manner in which you have replied to him and others...

Like I said, you are free to post your opinions about Trump and American politics, but as a Canadian, don't be shocked when you get called out for your hypocrisy...

 

[RLD]

I thought I did answer...

I don't condone personal attacks either way... However, Brent is a counterpuncher... If you feel he insulted you, it's probably a result of the condescending, and/or antagonizing manner in which you have replied to him and others...

Like I said, you are free to post your opinions about Trump and American politics, but as a Canadian, don't be shocked when you get called out for your hypocrisy...

Now that is jumping to conclusions Dave.

My position would only be hypocrisy if I criticized American policies differently than I criticized Canadian policies. When the topic of criticizing the policies of the recent Canadian government comes up I have a long list of grievances with them that I would be happy to air. I am happy to concede out of the gate that there are some things are done much better south of the border than north of it. But the reverse is also true on some issues.

Canadians, are no more unified in their support/detraction of our political leaders than Americans are. We are not the borg. Assuming that all Canadians feel similarly about an issue is just as wrong as assuming all Americans think the same way.

You welcome to think of me as condescending or antagonizing, but I am pretty confident my political/legal thoughts are consistent, no matter which country I apply them to.

 

[BSO Dave]

You welcome to think of me as condescending or antagonizing, but I am pretty confident my political/legal thoughts are consistent, no matter which country I apply them to.

I can only go by what you have posted... It's just my opinion as I see it... You and others are certainly welcomed to disagree....

I'm glad to hear that you feel you are capable of fair criticism of your own government just as much as ours... The difference is that I would never criticize Canada's government unless its actions affected me directly... Otherwise, I honestly don't care what goes on up there, and, if I am being brutally honest, I find it difficult to take seriously any government where it's against the law to refer to someone outside of their chosen pronouns...

 

[RLD]

I can only go by what you have posted... It's just my opinion as I see it... You and others are certainly welcomed to disagree....

I'm glad to hear that you feel you are capable of fair criticism of your own government just as much as ours... The difference is that I would never criticize Canada's government unless its actions affected me directly... Otherwise, I honestly don't care what goes on up there, and, if I am being brutally honest, I find it difficult to take seriously any government where it's against the law to refer to someone outside of their chosen pronouns...

Well as the far better Trudeau once said:

"Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered the beast, one is affected by every twitch and grunt."

I totally agree that the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal position on misgendering is downright silly, but still not yet tested in court. However, I am heartened by a superior court judge's decision that:

"Flipping the proverbial bird is a God-given, Charter-enshrined right that belongs to every red-blooded Canadian," the judge wrote. "It may not be civil, it may not be polite, it may not be gentlemanly. Nevertheless, it does not trigger criminal liability."

We retain sanity in some quarters.

 

[Brent in Az]

A) the WSJ are marxists

B) your claim that antifa were about to attack an ICE facility

C) your claim about the SCOTUS case allowing third country deporations again being a smackdown - clearly misleading.

Your connection to the truth or facts is tenuous at best. And if you can't take critique of your inaccurate take on political issues perhaps you shouldn't post them in a political forum.

The height of your responses rises to "kick your dog", "you are a troll", "your IQ is low".

The minute a substantive issue comes up you spray second grade insults. Makes one think you don't really have a clue about any of the issues you like to shout about.

A ) My reference to WSJ and anything on Wall street, as marxist, is simply my opinion for anything coming out of that corrupt and money grubbing cesspool.
Opinion. Neither fact or fiction.
If that triggers you, i suggest you man up, grow a pair, and get over it.

B) the alleged ANTIFA attack on the San Francisco ICE facility was a statement made by the Media based on ANTIFA chatter on social media
I didn't make up that claim, I just repeated what the media stated.
I suggest you talk to them about it.

C) again, the "Smackdown" on the Biden judge by SCOTUS, was exactly that. A narrative stated by the right-wing media for the ruling against a rogue Federal judge trying to disrupt the deportation of illegals. A win for the pro-deportation crowd.

My connection to the truth or facts is simply different then your's, as I have have a vested interest in what happens in my country. I know full well what is going on.
All you do is sit back and bitch and complain about it, and anyone outside of your little bubble of sanctimony.

 

[RLD]

A ) My reference to WSJ and anything on Wall street, as marxist, is simply my opinion for anything coming out of that corrupt and money grubbing cesspool.
Opinion. Neither fact or fiction.
If that triggers you, i suggest you man up, grow a pair, and get over it.

B) the alleged ANTIFA attack on the San Francisco ICE facility was a statement made by the Media based on ANTIFA chatter on social media
I didn't make up that claim, I just repeated what the media stated.
I suggest you talk to them about it.

C) again, the "Smackdown" on the Biden judge by SCOTUS, was exactly that. A narrative stated by the right-wing media for the ruling against a rogue Federal judge trying to disrupt the deportation of illegals. A win for the pro-deportation crowd.

My connection to the truth or facts is simply different then your's, as I have have a vested interest in what happens in my country. I know full well what is going on.
All you do is sit back and bitch and complain about it, and anyone outside of your little bubble of sanctimony.

A) the word "marxist" has a meaning. It is not an subjective assessment. The WSJ is not marxist. It's like the word Nazi. The word has a meaning. When people call Trump a Nazi they are wrong. When you called the WSJ marxist you were wrong.

B) so it wasn't your lie, it was just someone else's lie you chose to repeat, without giving any source or link. That makes it all better. I'd be happy to see the media sources that you used for that.

C) so the fact you are repeating a misleading right wing narrative makes it all better? I wonder if you would think the same way if someone was just repeating a misleading AOC narrative.

If you honestly thought antifa was about to attack an ICE facility than you really don't "know full well what is going on."

 

[Brent in Az]

The impeachment resolution introduced by Al Green (Maxine Waters with a penis), was voted down in the house by a large margin
Maybe the Democrats are catching on, and starting to realize that trying to impeach Trump is bad for business.

 

[Brent in Az]

A) the word "marxist" has a meaning. It is not an subjective assessment. The WSJ is not marxist. It's like the word Nazi. The word has a meaning. When people call Trump a Nazi they are wrong. When you called the WSJ marxist you were wrong.

B) so it wasn't your lie, it was just someone else's lie you chose to repeat, without giving any source or link. That makes it all better. I'd be happy to see the media sources that you used for that.

C) so the fact you are repeating a misleading right wing narrative makes it all better? I wonder if you would think the same way if someone was just repeating a misleading AOC narrative.

If you honestly thought antifa was about to attack an ICE facility than you really don't "know full well what is going on."

Totally weak arguments. You seem to be very good at deflection, and twisting the narratives

 

[Brent in Az]

Launch this woman over the wall....via catapult

 

[Newboomer]

Launch this woman over the wall....via catapult

Well said. She's a prime candidate for deportation permanently.

 

[BSO Dave]

Well as the far better Trudeau once said:

"Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered the beast, one is affected by every twitch and grunt."

Quoting Trudeau in any capacity other than to mock or use said quotation as an example of the asinine absurdity of what the Canadian government represented under his leadership is pretty useless in my view...

The mere acknowledgement that you agree that Canada is affected by every twitch and grunt of the United States says what exactly about your own position as a sovereign nation?

"Flipping the proverbial bird is a God-given, Charter-enshrined right that belongs to every red-blooded Canadian," the judge wrote. "It may not be civil, it may not be polite, it may not be gentlemanly. Nevertheless, it does not trigger criminal liability."

We retain sanity in some quarters.

The blatant violation of freedoms the "pronoun" example represents is just one drop in a very large bucket of progressive, socialist bullshit that the Canadian government seems to embrace... Too bad that "sanity" of those same judges wasn't as apparent when your fellow citizens' bank accounts where being locked during Covid... I could go on and on, but being the fair-minded distributor of criticism that you claim to be, I think you get my point...