Politics

[SaintPanzer]

I don't know who needs to be reminded about this, but just in case:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

n.b. "peacefully to assemble", "petition the Government", and (my personal favorite) "prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Don't like ICE? ICE was created by Congress, and Congress can change it. This is not to be confused with "that the laws be faithfully executed...", which is what ICE is doing.

And if people come to a country, violate that countries laws, and then wave the flag of another country, don't tell me it's not an invasion, because I know better.

 

[skydiver386]

ANTIFA is going to attack the ICE facility in San Francisco

Hope plenty of ICE Officers and Federal Marshalls are there to greet them properly.

 

[Brent in Az]

Hope plenty of ICE Officers and Federal Marshalls are there to greet them properly.

Maybe we'll get lucky and the ANTIFA vermin will be met with more lethal projectiles

 

[Pondoro]

Maybe we'll get lucky and the ANTIFA vermin will be met with more lethal projectiles

You want the National Guard to shoot at protesters/ANTIFA with live ammunition..?

Let us clarify this:

Yes or no..?

 

[BSO Dave]

Did you support Jan 6?

A lot happened on Jan-6...

50K+ citizens attended a lawful, peaceful "stop the steal rally"

Out of those thousands, it was estimated that 2,000 continued on to the Capitol, where couple hundred participated in a riot that we now know was incited by government plants... We also now know that most of the Capitol police opened the doors and let in hundreds of protestors who were subsequently arrested for trespassing and rioting...

So, to answer your question, I absolutely supported the rally... I did not support the violent rioters whether they were incited or not...

Good.
I hope that folks don't forget that freedom of speech and the right to assembly (with the fight against a tyrannical government) is a cornerstone to our freedom... just as the 2nd amendment is...

Full discloser...I stand for ALL Americans right to protest, if I agree with their issue or not....

As wesheltonj already mentioned, you forgot "peaceful" and "legal"... Protests are supposed to be pre-approved and permitted... None of these are permitted, and therefore illegal, peaceful or not... Nobody has the right to assemble in the middle of a public road to block traffic regardless of if they actually have a permit or they are being peaceful and passive... None of what I have seen has been legal or peaceful... BIG difference from what our founders intended with the 1st Amendment...

 

[mdwest]

I think the key to the ANTIFA turds is to meet them with significantly more force than the last time around.. there has to be consequences for purposeful felonious actions..

There is a reason they largely target liberal cities.. the mayors and governors are inclined to do little about their behavior.. they get away with it... other than an occasional kyle rittenhouse incident, in what way were any of these asswipes held accountable for their crimes?

If the local and state govt wont do anything to enforce the law, Im all for calling in the Feds and putting an end to their BS..

Peaceful protests Im all for.. Occupy wall street all you like.. camp out on the national mall with big painted banners and shout at every car that passes by... see if your "cause" has any merit or if the population actually gives a shit about whatever it is you're upset about.. if they do, they will support you and push for change.. if they don't, you'll freeze your ass off during a New York January sitting in your tent on Wall Street, or you'll sweat your ass off during a DC July, and you'll disperse on your own..

Burning cities, looting businesses, etc.. and then having the states bitch and complain and try to penalize businesses for leaving their burned, looted cities once its all said and done is preposterous..

 

[BSO Dave]

You want the National Guard to shoot at protesters/ANTIFA with live ammunition..?

Let us clarify this:

Yes or no..?

Let me clarify this for you:

Anyone who throws an object like a rock, bottle, or Molotov cocktail, is committing a violent crime. Anyone who lays hands on, or threatens another human being with a weapon, is committing a violent crime.... Yes, they should be dealt with by any means necessary to mitigate that violent act up to and including the use of firearms by law enforcement... But, you can relax, that won't happen...

 

[Brent in Az]

Trump said that the use of the insurrectionist act is on the table

 

[Brent in Az]

The L.A ghetto scum have been launching fireworks at law enforcement.
Sounds like a case for lethal response.

 

[BJH65]

Let me clarify this for you:

Anyone who throws an object like a rock, bottle, or Molotov cocktail, is committing a violent crime. Anyone who lays hands on, or threatens another human being with a weapon, is committing a violent crime.... Yes, they should be dealt with by any means necessary to mitigate that violent act up to and including the use of firearms by law enforcement... But, you can relax, that won't happen...

Agreed. Any action that could cause serious bodily harm or death meets most law enforcement agencies use of force policy authorizing deadly force however most agencies never respond this way in civil disturbances or riots even if a police sniper could neutralize the suspect without endangering others, instead less lethal options are used.

 

[Brent in Az]

The America hating lefties are losing their minds, and spewing the typical lies.

 

[deewayne2003]

You want the National Guard to shoot at protesters/ANTIFA with live ammunition..?

Let us clarify this:

Yes or no..?

Yes lets clarify this......

In the picture below you will see a protestor/ANTIFA in the process of throwing a Molotov cocktail at police officers.

Simple possession of this improvised incendiary device constitutes manufacturing an unregistered destructive device and is a federal felony punishable by 10 years of federal prison time.

Throwing it at a person is attempted murder which is a lethal action that justifies use of deadly force; so yes I fully support the use of live ammunition against someone trying to burn others alive.

 

[Tbitty]

IMHO, which doesnt count for much, if rioters (note, there is a clear difference between a protest and a riot) want to destroy property or cause harm, then all options for stopping them should be on the table. At the very least, using rubber bullets or tasers, and inflicting some real pain and consequences, would cause a lot of the BS to stop before it starts. Plus it would likely result in more arrests and jail time to keep them from hopping from town to town.

Most of these assclowns would stay home instead of being hurt. Then there's less of a mob, and its easier to stop the truly violent ones.

As it is, there are basically no consequences. They are emboldened to do whatever they want.

 

[spike.t]

I absolutely support citizens right to protest. But I will be the bad guy here and seriously question the loyalty of people waving the flag of another country.

Standard procedure for these fktards in most countries they illegally enter and then start protesting./rioting.....need the old type French and Spanish riot police ....they didn't fk about....

 

[mdwest]

Standard procedure for these fktards in most countries they illegally enter and then start protesting./rioting.....need the old type French and Spanish riot police ....they didn't fk about....

Sometimes you have to break a few legs to make an omelet...

 

[Scott CWO]

The stupidity, greed and naiveness of our elected officials is going to be our downfall. And, let's not forget the greed of those running the universities (indoctrination camps).

Unfortunately, the K-12 schools are also indoctrinating kids before they even reach a university.

 

[spike.t]

Sometimes you have to break a few legs to make an omelet...

I'd hypothetically of course... be breaking more than that.......

 

[Rocked and Loaded]

You want the National Guard to shoot at protesters/ANTIFA with live ammunition..?

Let us clarify this:

Yes or no..?

If you are throwing bricks at innocent bystanders, burning buildings, or assaulting people with pipes, bats, or skateboards, then you are not protesting but engaging in an act of terrorism. The national guard would be justified in shooting those behaving in such a manner.

The violent terrorism that was permitted to be carried out in 2020 should not be tolerated again.

 

[shootist~]

You want the National Guard to shoot at protesters/ANTIFA with live ammunition..?

Let us clarify this:

Yes or no..?

ANTIFA is a terrorist organization, IMO, and is on the verge of getting an official designation as such I believe.

Make it so and when involved in violence treat them accordingly.
Would be fine with me.

 

[Rocked and Loaded]

Good.
I hope that folks don't forget that freedom of speech and the right to assembly (with the fight against a tyrannical government) is a cornerstone to our freedom... just as the 2nd amendment is...

We have freedom to peacefully protest, not to engage in violent lynch mobs where we drag people from their cars and beat them, burn buildings and businesses, loot, and launch projectiles at law enforcement carrying out their lawful duty.

You seemingly would protect the rights of these criminals at the cost of the rights of their victims.