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[Nyati]

Also surprised The Donald didn't bring up what Cyril said in the past...would have really turned up the heat

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Yes, they are applying this strategy which has proved to be successful in other African countries.

Gradual squeeze instead of brutal expulsion, but in the end, they just want the whites out, and keep the wealth, of course.

 

[Altitude sickness]

I don't recall seeing anything posted about it on this thread yet, but i admittedly jump a few pages at a time when catching up....

Part of the Big Beautiful Deal is getting Suppressors off the NFA. They would be classified more like buying a long gun, from what I've heard about it so far.

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Apparently this bill removes the $200 tax but it’s still on the list.

NRA-ILA | Last Chance for Gun Owners to Ask U.S. House to Amend the Reconciliation Bill

The U.S. House of Representatives has another chance to amend the current Reconciliation Bill making its way through Congress. The Reconciliation Bill would currently rescind the unconstitutional tax on suppressors, but it doesn’t remove them from the National Firearms Act (NFA) completely...

www.nraila.org

 

[Pasme]

Trump's choice of words about the “genocide” of the white rural population in South Africa

our press is once again making a mockery of this.
Anyone of us who spends a lot of time in the countryside in RSA knows that this is true.
Perhaps the choice of words is exaggerated, as a German you have a different basis for measuring genocide, but Trump is absolutely right in this matter and he is the only one of the heads of state who dares to say this.
Thousands of white farmers and their families have been murdered since independence.
Politicians are not at all interested in clarification, they want to create a climate of fear so that the whites finally disappear, just like in Zimbabwe under Mugabe or in Tanzania under Nyrere.
The South African government has a right of first refusal on farms and of course pays next to nothing for them.
Moreover, you don't bring any money from RSA on a large scale.
So either stay and desperately hold out, or walk away with nothing and you're literally on the brink of an economic OUT.
I would have asked Ramaphosa why the ANC always sings the song “kill the Boers” by Julius Malema at the party congress(still,not only Malema's EFF)
If that's not a call to murder, I don't know.
It really is time to reproach the mainstream press for their indoctrination.

come on man, get your hands off your behind.
Yes there is voilence
Yes maybe there has been some deaths but not on the thousands, not graveyards and lineup of cars coming to pay respect to their late beloved ones like Trump wants to world to believe, That's a Big fat lie. I love Trump most of what he is doing but blowing the situation out of proportion is a no no for me.

 

[Foxi]

come on man, get your hands off your behind.
Yes there is voilence
Yes maybe there has been some deaths but not on the thousands, not graveyards and lineup of cars coming to pay respect to their late beloved ones like Trump wants to world to believe, That's a Big fat lie. I love Trump most of what he is doing but blowing the situation out of proportion is a no no for me.

"According to the Transvaal Agricultural Union of South Africa (TAU SA), over 1,000 white commercial farmers have been killed in South Africa since the end of apartheid in 1994. The exact figures vary depending on the source, as the South African Police Service has not published specific statistics on farm murders since 2007 ( why???) and has integrated them into the general murder statistics.
In total, there were around 13,000 farm robberies between 1994 and 2020, in which around 2,000 commercial farmers were killed".
Source:
BBC+3Daily Sabah+3Anadolu Ajansı+3Wikipedia

Maybe you should just inform yourself before you write.
If you douse the farmers with spiritus/alcohol,set them on fire and they survive, they don't fall into the murder statistics.

 

[Red Leg]

come on man, get your hands off your behind.
Yes there is voilence
Yes maybe there has been some deaths but not on the thousands, not graveyards and lineup of cars coming to pay respect to their late beloved ones like Trump wants to world to believe, That's a Big fat lie. I love Trump most of what he is doing but blowing the situation out of proportion is a no no for me.

A common theme among South Africans I have met over the last twenty years or so, a number whom I consider good friends, is an almost desperate urge to whistle past the graveyard. In spite of their nation gradually sinking from a first world industrial and scientific powerhouse into a third world economic malaise and likely eventual failed state status, there is a belief everything will be ok - it will somehow all work out. Sadly, Ramaphosa's boiled frog analogy seems all too acurate.

 

[TOBY458]

After having just returned from Zimbabwe, where we did quite a bit of driving from Bulawayo to our hunting destination, it’s quite easy to see what SA will look like once all the whites are driven off of their farms. What were once beautiful resorts are now boarded up, with no one left to run them. What were once large productive farms now lay vacant. Remnants of stock tanks and fences slowly deteriorating into nothing. No one left to employ the people who once held thousands of farm jobs. It’s a sad sight to see.

 

[Tbitty]

Apparently this bill removes the $200 tax but it’s still on the list.

NRA-ILA | Last Chance for Gun Owners to Ask U.S. House to Amend the Reconciliation Bill

The U.S. House of Representatives has another chance to amend the current Reconciliation Bill making its way through Congress. The Reconciliation Bill would currently rescind the unconstitutional tax on suppressors, but it doesn’t remove them from the National Firearms Act (NFA) completely...

www.nraila.org

NRA-ILA | U.S. House Passes Reconciliation Bill, Removing Suppressors from the National Firearms Act

Earlier today, the U.S. House of Representatives passed H.R.1 the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which included Section 2 of the Hearing Protection Act, completely removing suppressors from the National Firearms Act (NFA).

www.nraila.org

As best I can tell, It was amended since Monday to actually remove from NFA, not just the $200 stamp. Now it still needs to be fully passed and get thru Senate or final modifications, but seems promising.

 

[Altitude sickness]

That’s great news Tbitty

 

[WAB]

"According to the Transvaal Agricultural Union of South Africa (TAU SA), over 1,000 white commercial farmers have been killed in South Africa since the end of apartheid in 1994. The exact figures vary depending on the source, as the South African Police Service has not published specific statistics on farm murders since 2007 ( why???) and has integrated them into the general murder statistics.
In total, there were around 13,000 farm robberies between 1994 and 2020, in which around 2,000 commercial farmers were killed".
Source:
BBC+3Daily Sabah+3Anadolu Ajansı+3Wikipedia

Maybe you should just inform yourself before you write.
If you douse the farmers with spiritus/alcohol,set them on fire and they survive, they don't fall into the murder statistics.

Exactly! I have friends who have joined together in a sort of armed militia to defend their farms. A few years ago I was on a farm in the western cape. A week later the neighbors were dead in a vicious farm attack. These folks live in gated compounds in continual readiness for an attack. Any attempt to downplay this is ludicrous. I am glad that it is finally getting the attention it deserves.

 

[HuntingGold]

I’d suggest you’re watching the wrong podcasts.

I live in Alberta and I don’t believe there is nearly that much support for separation, The real numbers seem to be in the low to mid 20% range.

Those who are separatist will likely destroy their own cause by looking for an early vote. A project like this is something that takes years of planning, with a well developed and thorough public relations strateg to build support in advance of a vote.

Many Albertans conflate separatism with MAGA, and that will hurt the movement in the near term. Promoters will have to “separate” (pun intended) their movement from MAGA if they hope to get any real traction. While there are some Albertans who support joining the US (and the media certainly seek them out), they are a very small number.

This is not to suggest that a majority of Albertans are happy with Canada at the moment. Most Albertans who are fed up with Canada, though, are just looking for a better deal from Confederation, not becoming an appendage to Montana. (Here’s a quiz: what is the population of the City of Calgary and how does it compare to the population of the State of Montana, which abuts Alberta to the south?)

Go too soon and you will fail, without a doubt.

Thanks @Hank2211 That was the input I was looking for. As mentioned previously, I don't know the host or the guest and merely stumbled onto that video. I listened to get a different view of said topic. It was different but as I suspected, not a true reflection of what is happening on the ground in Alberta.
Regards

 

[deewayne2003]

NRA-ILA | U.S. House Passes Reconciliation Bill, Removing Suppressors from the National Firearms Act

Earlier today, the U.S. House of Representatives passed H.R.1 the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which included Section 2 of the Hearing Protection Act, completely removing suppressors from the National Firearms Act (NFA).

www.nraila.org

As best I can tell, It was amended since Monday to actually remove from NFA, not just the $200 stamp. Now it still needs to be fully passed and get thru Senate or final modifications, but seems promising.

Yes and there was a push to remove SBR’s as well; some lawmakers thought that gun owners were upset about the $200 tax; but there was a big push by “gun tubers” to get the word out and have people contact their politicians and get things right.

 

[Rocked and Loaded]

 

[spike.t]

The loud hum sparking unrest in Trump's MAGA heartlands

Trump has said he wants to turn the US into the crypto-mining capital of the world - but that has real-world implications for many of his core voters

www.bbc.com

 

[spike.t]

Oh yeah....

Congress moves to block California ban on petrol-only cars

Califormia's plan was expected to have significant influence over the wider car industry in the US.

www.bbc.com

 

[Munnik]

Trump allows white settlers from South Africa to enter the USA as refugees. The reason is an alleged genocide in their homeland. He wants to convince South African President Ramaphosa of this with the help of pictures. However, the material is from a completely different country.

A picture presented by US President Donald Trump as evidence of alleged mass murders of whites in South Africa comes from a video of the Reuters news agency from the Congo. Trump had presented the still image as part of material to his South African colleague Cyril Ramaphosa with the words: "These are all white farmers who are buried."

What an asshole.

 

[spike.t]

World’s seven wealthiest countries agree to counter China’s trade practices

G7 finance ministers and central bank governors pledge to address ‘economic imbalances’, without naming China

www.theguardian.com

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

Trump allows white settlers from South Africa to enter the USA as refugees. The reason is an alleged genocide in their homeland. He wants to convince South African President Ramaphosa of this with the help of pictures. However, the material is from a completely different country.

A picture presented by US President Donald Trump as evidence of alleged mass murders of whites in South Africa comes from a video of the Reuters news agency from the Congo. Trump had presented the still image as part of material to his South African colleague Cyril Ramaphosa with the words: "These are all white farmers who are buried."

What an asshole.

And that changes the reality how? So what? It is amazing to me that someone wants to be hyper critical over something like that instead of realizing how good it is that he’s actually confronting RSA over this incredibly important issue.

Not to mention the fact that it was some incompetent staffers screw up. If it is true that is.

 

[Munnik]

And that changes the reality how? So what? It is amazing to me that someone wants to be hyper critical over something like that instead of realizing how good it is that he’s actually confronting RSA over this incredibly important issue.

Not to mention the fact that it was some incompetent staffers screw up. If it is true that is.

There is a high amunt of crime, unfortunately farmers are amongst the victims as well. Otherwise it‘s a lovely country.

If I wonder how many of you have ever lived in South Africa and know what they are talking about? South Africa has been my home for decades, unlike most of you I know what I'm talking about.

Idiot Musk is the cause of all these exaggerations and lies. USA isn‘t a safer place than South Africa.

I was a SA farmer (Limpopo and Western Cape), nothing ever happened to me, my family and friends.

 

[spike.t]

Yes, they are applying this strategy which has proved to be successful in other African countries.

Gradual squeeze instead of brutal expulsion, but in the end, they just want the whites out, and keep the wealth, of course.

 

[mdwest]

There is a high amunt of crime, unfortunately farmers are amongst the victims as well. Otherwise it‘s a lovely country.

If I wonder how many of you have ever lived in South Africa and know what they are talking about? South Africa has been my home for decades, unlike most of you I know what I'm talking about.

Idiot Musk is the cause of all these exaggerations and lies. USA isn‘t a safer place than South Africa.

I was a SA farmer (Limpopo and Western Cape), nothing ever happened to me, my family and friends.

I completely agree with you on South Africa being a lovely country and that in many ways problems with crime are exaggerated by the media and others. I’m an American, and have no problem at all renting a car and driving all over the country with my family (I have done it).. just stay out of the townships and obviously bad parts of the large cities and the chances of trouble are relatively low..

All of that said, you are incorrect about the US not being safer than South Africa….

The South African murder rate is currently 45 people out of every 100,000 will be murdered…

The USA rate is 6.3 murders per 100,000 people..

The USA burglary rate is 250:100,000

In South Africa the burglary rate is 590:100,000

If you compare all “index crimes” (serious felonies against humans or personal property), ALL South African rates are substantially higher than US rates..

It can be argued that much of the crime in South Africa is in the cities and townships and is black on black crime, and therefore the white population isn’t as impacted as the numbers might imply…

The problem with that argument is the same is true in the US… most of the index crimes committed in the US are in the inner cities, and are minority on minority crimes (isolated to the neighborhoods where the minorities live)… middle class people are typically unimpacted…

And yet South Africa’s crime rates are much, much, higher..