Politics

[Big guns]

Russia is smart to fear NATO expansion. The last two inductions are very formidable militarily.

The whole thing looks reversed to me, It looks like NATO is scared of Russia.
You know putin putin putin has nuclear war headssss.

 

[deewayne2003]

There is no such thing as a 0% auto loan from a dealer. They just charge you more for the vehicle. Always negotiate the cash price of a vehicle before mentioning trades or financing or payments.

Agreed, my personal finance professor in college showed us multiple 0% auto loans; every one of them were so loaded in fees that you would be better off with a 5% loan.

Get them on the hook with 0% and even if they pay off the loan in full the first year you’ve still made the financing department a load of cash over the sticker price.

 

[rigbymauser]

I just returned from Nova Scotia. I was shocked at the level of anger toward our president and the current administration. It was so intense that at church the pastor prayed for the country in the face of the trade war they have been subjected to. The attitude is almost one of a country under attack. In the face of that, they have unified behind the party in power. A horrible decision, but there it is.

Trump has no idea the impact of his words and actions have on the international stage. He is doing lasting damage to our relationships with our long time allies. Those of you who think he can do no wrong may not care, but I can assure you that this will cost us in the long term.

I think its the inpredictability of Trumps personality the world is reacting on. As I understand from the farmers who have expressed themself on YT its also the inpredictability they are worried about(tariffs)The farming community need some kind predictability as far as markeds etc. The weather they can’t do much about. And ofcouse its all the lies Trumps says and at the same time owe no insight of how the world spin nor wish to. His administration seems to be govern by Ad Hoc planning. Trump seems to believe all deals can be made with a handshake in the barndoor but clearly don’t understand(unwillingly ?) the process.
Trump had many good valid political points in his campaign but he is judged by way he treats people and ofcouse who he collaborate with( read Russia).

 

[deewayne2003]

I just returned from Nova Scotia. I was shocked at the level of anger toward our president and the current administration. It was so intense that at church the pastor prayed for the country in the face of the trade war they have been subjected to. The attitude is almost one of a country under attack. In the face of that, they have unified behind the party in power. A horrible decision, but there it is.

Trump has no idea the impact of his words and actions have on the international stage. He is doing lasting damage to our relationships with our long time allies. Those of you who think he can do no wrong may not care, but I can assure you that this will cost us in the long term.

While I don’t disagree with your statements, I will say that Canadians tend to be very emotionally sensitive and overly dramatic and have appeared that way for decades.

I remember watching CNN broadcasts back in the mid 1990’s of Canadians burning American flags in the streets as a result of fishing regulations and territorial disputes.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Here is why it is hard to wrap my head around it. Is that the Canadian population is so weak and so easily influenced that a person in another country is being used to shift the blame of how terrible your government has been.

The fact you (someone I consider informed and respect) is saying Trump is to blame surprises me, but you did mention the real issue to me is a naive population which is what I was getting at.

Someone told me yesterday at work, "everything happens for a reason" and I said, "well maybe the reason is we are stupid and make bad decisions". This is about how I feel about the Canadian voting population if they vote for the same party as Trudeau and then blame Trump.

You’re miss quoting me I said trump takes a share of the blame. There was absolutely no reason for him to attack Canada and yet he went out of his way to torpedo relations between the two nations.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

While I don’t disagree with your statements, I will say that Canadians tend to be very emotionally sensitive and overly dramatic and have appeared that way for decades.

I remember watching CNN broadcasts back in the mid 1990’s of Canadians burning American flags in the streets as a result of fishing regulations and territorial disputes.

You ever watch your entire ability to make a living be stolen by foreign fleets? Canada is a very rural country outside of Quebec and Ontario when a fishery closes like the cod did in the 90s entire populations that have in some cases hundreds of years of family history are forced to move away from the only home they’ve ever known to find work. Most of those newfies ended up in car plants in Ontario for lack of any employment in Newfoundland. With fisherman it’s not just a job it’s a fundamental part of who you are, there were a sad number of those gentlemen who ended their own lives.

 

[spike.t]

Doesn't look good if correct.....

StormBreaker Advanced Glide Bomb Lands In Yemen Largely Intact

The cutting-edge StormBreaker was only recently confirmed as being used in combat and could be of major intelligence value to an adversary. The cutting-edge StormBreaker was only recently confirmed as being used in combat and could be of significant intelligence value to an adversary.

www.twz.com

 

[Altitude sickness]

I’m sure our guys are currently or have already tracked it down. And it will be destroyed.

Or perhaps it was already transported into Iran for us.

Five dead, more than 700 injured as powerful explosion hits Iran port

Social media videos show a huge plume of black smoke and a ball of fire rising from the area of the explosion.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[deewayne2003]

You ever watch your entire ability to make a living be stolen by foreign fleets? Canada is a very rural country outside of Quebec and Ontario when a fishery closes like the cod did in the 90s entire populations that have in some cases hundreds of years of family history are forced to move away from the only home they’ve ever known to find work. Most of those newfies ended up in car plants in Ontario for lack of any employment in Newfoundland. With fisherman it’s not just a job it’s a fundamental part of who you are, there were a sad number of those gentlemen who ended their own lives.

I understand that, and yes when you see illegal immigrants destroy industries that had sustained generations of Americans be reverted to poverty wages, yeah I get your point… but we were not burning flags in the streets.

To be honest I think having this guy…..

in office for over 9 years did more damage to Canada than anything that Trump has done or could do.

 

[Datchew]

You are going to have to parse that one for me. Article 5 no longer applies to the US?

I'm not an article 5 expert but I believe it covers the Baltics and Poland but not Ukraine. Perhaps baltics are in article 6

It's kind of a 3 musketeers approach. All for one and one for all.
But I thought it gave options to support vs get fully engaged with military action if a member is attacked. I'll need to refresh on it if I'm in error.

 

[John Wasmuth]

“No one is above the law”….. Prison orange is the new black…

 

[WAB]

While I don’t disagree with your statements, I will say that Canadians tend to be very emotionally sensitive and overly dramatic and have appeared that way for decades.

I remember watching CNN broadcasts back in the mid 1990’s of Canadians burning American flags in the streets as a result of fishing regulations and territorial disputes.

So you’ve developed your opinion of Canadians watching CNN? I suppose Canadians could develop their opinion of Americans by watching the same news agency, George Floyd, BLM, ANTIFA, quite a pretty picture they paint of our nation.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I understand that, and yes when you see illegal immigrants destroy industries that had sustained generations of Americans be reverted to poverty wages, yeah I get your point… but we were not burning flags in the streets.

To be honest I think having this guy…..
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in office for over 9 years did more damage to Canada than anything that Trump has done or could do.

Future generations of Canadians will look back on the period of time we spent with a leader that painted himself black and feel shame much the same as future generations of Americans should feel about the actions of a leader who paints himself orange.

 

[WAB]

Future generations of Canadians will look back on the period of time we spent with a leader that painted himself black and feel shame much the same as future generations of Americans should feel about the actions of a leader who paints himself orange.

What’s so sad is that his predecessor was one of the greatest PM’s in Canada’s history.

 

[Tanks]

I'm not an article 5 expert but I believe it covers the Baltics and Poland but not Ukraine. Perhaps baltics are in article 6

It's kind of a 3 musketeers approach. All for one and one for all.
But I thought it gave options to support vs get fully engaged with military action if a member is attacked. I'll need to refresh on it if I'm in error.

The question was in regard to Baltic NATO members, Ukraine is not a member of NATO and is not covered. Article 5 is not optional if one has signed onto NATO, it is the heart of the treaty. That being said, I don't trust Trump honoring any treaties he doesn't like.

 

[Scott CWO]

Ahem, I paid a 0% loan for my girlfriend’s jeep. Price was determined when we ordered it, X below MSRP. Paying for it was arranged after the sale, options were 0% for 3 years, cash or traditional financing.

Price of the vehicle was determined way before moving to the finance guy even with my Lexus. Though, they pushed for me to finance it 100% and take it home that night rather than wait 2 days for wire transfer. I told them I didn’t mind waiting.

Got something stuck in your throat? It might be the BS they told/sold you. MSRP means nothing. It’s just a made up document. I will give you that it’s harder to negotiate now than before COVID. However, the “invoice” and MSRP are just documents. Dealers get “hold back” money from the factory for each car sold and that is not disclosed to the consumer. Working up a price online or when ordering is not in stone and the bottom line but like I said, they are playing hardball now compared to pre-COVID. There is no such thing as 0% financing. They just get it back by not lowering the price and BS you into thinking they can’t lower it.

 

[Scott CWO]

Riiiiight. Where have i defended the Russians?
Don't equate calling a balanced view of the situation and the warts on both sides as defending the one you don't like because I'm not willing to look at it in a pure black vs. pure white lens as it seems many are.

Study history not Kool-Aid.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

What’s so sad is that his predecessor was one of the greatest PM’s in Canada’s history.

The last true conservative to hold office in North America. I wish Harper would run again he has done a few campaign events this election and seems to be as sharp as ever.

 

[Scott CWO]

dear Scott CWO, I highly appreciate your guarantees (I hope no one in the West will violate them in the future), but nevertheless I would like to note that from the outside it is the Western idea of advancing its military structure to the East that looks like a really paranoid idea.
Considering the main topic of the forum: if you're sitting in a tree and a bear is climbing up to you, what should you think? Even if he assures you that your fears are paranoid. (yes, the bear does not violate any written agreements).

@Vashper trust me comrade, nobody in the West ever thinks or talks about invading Russia. We don’t want your land but would love to visit, tour and hunt with you. You could be completely surrounded by NATO countries and you would never be invaded. Actually, that would be the safest outcome for everyone because your leaders are the invaders. The only thing we wish for is for Russians to someday somehow come to your senses and become a democratic republic with capitalism instead of the oligarchy and kleptocracy you’re in now. You do realize that your oligarchs share earnings with Putin, do you not? How did Putin get so rich otherwise?

Why can’t your leaders just enjoy your vast beautiful country and build it up without coveting your neighbors and former Soviet republics? Your country has vast resources and could be a strong country but you’re too worried about expanding your borders to invest in your own country. Such a shame. Your potential is endless and pissed away.

 

[Datchew]

The question was in regard to Baltic NATO members, Ukraine is not a member of NATO and is not covered. Article 5 is not optional if one has signed onto NATO, it is the heart of the treaty. That being said, I don't trust Trump honoring any treaties he doesn't like.

Thank you for repeating my point with the exception of your last sentence.