SaintPanzer
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Noted on the authoritarian... Yes, many have said the same thing about current events, but no one really spoke out on the other at the time.I don’t follow your argument I was addressing the supposed trade deficit and provided numbers. If you work the numbers out per capita every Canadian out spends every American by 7000 in the others respective country. Meaning 7000 more of my dollars went into boosting your economy than you returned. If Americans matched Canadians dollar for dollar in cross boarder spending the trade deficit would be 2.38 trillion more annually. So essentially it comes down to trump being pissed we have a smaller population. For some reason trump thinks it’s logical for a population of 40 million to match the spending of a population of 340 million. The fact that we only have a 63billion trade deficit should be impressive.
Those numbers are not based on peoples cross boarder shopping habits there based on import export in trade. I’m not sure your argument has any real bearing. I simply took the same numbers of import/export used to find the trade deficit and then divided it by the respective population of each country to find the per capita.
As for the authoritarian comments I’ll direct you back to Oxford the cat I believe he is the one who made the come your referencing or perhaps Brian. I’ve spoken out about our liberal government in the past and still have no love for them. The last couple years my father could work at all he drove truck, I had friends involved in that protest all be it in a iroc not a truck. The majority of truckers we know were/are log haulers.
As far as the trade, my point is less about cross border shopping, and more about availability. If Canadians produce less products, whether by manufacturing or any other good, and Americans produce more (not surprising considering the population differences) then more goods are available to the south, and of course the northerners will chase those goods. That's the point about Honda production. If the only "Domestic" Hondas are two available models, and the other popular Hondas are made in the US, then yes, Canadians will spend more on the available US Hondas then the Canadian ones. Similarly, If Honda makes models in both the US and Canada, it's likely they will not be purchasing a Canadian made model when the US model is close at hand.
To clarify, I'm going to pick on the 1966 Corvair, because I know a bit about Corvairs, and because the production numbers are small enough to illustrate the point.
In 1966, the Corvair was manufactured in Oshawa, Willow Run, and Van Nuys. Oshawa produced a total of 5921 cars. Now, I'm trying to find sales numbers for Corvairs in the US and Canada, but those numbers are more difficult to find. Considering the Corvair had over 1% of the market share in 1966, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that more than 6,000 Corvairs were sold in Canada. Hence, some were imported from Van Nuys or Willow Run. Additionally, every one of those engines was made in Tonawanda, NY. So yes, a lot of Canadian dollars are going to head south. Of course, in 1967, tariff changes made the manufacture of Corvairs in Oshawa less profitable, and the Corvair went down to about 0.25% of the market share. Canadians still bought a few. And the Oshawa plant started making Firebirds and Camaros. Was every Firebird and Camaro sold in Canada built in Oshawa? Not remotely.
Yes, those are very old numbers. But they reflect the point. The US makes a lot of "stuff", and makes a lot more "stuff" than Canada does. So if a Canadian wants "stuff", he can buy domestic or foreign, and there's a lot more available foreign "stuff". On the other hand, if an American wants "stuff", the "stuff" available from Canada is not nearly as available as other "stuff". And that's why the average Canadian spends more on American "stuff" than Americans spend on Canadian "stuff".
That shouldn't surprise anyone.
Corvair sources:

CC Charts: Domestic Compacts, 1958-1970 - No, The Corvair Was Not A Flop; It Had A Higher Market Share Than The F-Series Does Today - Curbside Classic
One of the more common myths that I’ve heard over the years is that the Corvair was essentially a failure, a sales and commercial flop. Far from it! In 1962 […]