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[Doubleplay]

Interesting! I’ll be going through Jo’burg in 2 months, on my way to Zimbabwe; hope this doesn’t escalate to where it’s tough for Americans to get through South Africa.

But, I’m glad to see our new administration making it clear that the bullshit tolerated over the last 4 years is no longer being ignored.

You should be fine.
However this bullshit is nothing new.
South Africa was in Bricks and all the issues was present during first Trump administration as well.

 

[mdwest]

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Its bad and have been for many years. I was on a gunauction in England back in [emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]] and already there was London like Jalalabad. But it was fairy peaceful but I did my thinking back then.

I’ve spent a lot of time in Jalalabad.. and a lot of time in London..

While London is absolutely fucked up like a football bat, and appears to only be getting worse… Jalalabad it is not (yet)…

 

[Brent in Az]

U.S military strikes Iran backed Houthi's in Yemen.
Sounds like Trump is sending Iran a message.

 

[kdenn]

Thought this funny!

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Sorry, didn’t realize the deed was in your name……..

a short while back I decided against posting any longer in the political thread as I felt I’ve made all the posts I could contribute and had begun to repeat myself. Further I found myself lashing out at fellow forum members most I felt justified in but one was uncalled for and frankly uncouth behaviour.

@John Wasmuth i owe you and apology my comment to you last week was uncalled for and spoken out of frustration which is no excuse. I began to type you a pm this morning apologizing in private and decided against it. I made my remark in public why then should I be allowed to recant it private.

Although I do not always agree with your political views I appreciate your contribution as a fellow forum member and hope you can forgive my inflammatory comment.

 

[DeadEyeDickless]

Arlington Cemetery website drops links for Black, Hispanic, and women veterans

The cemetery website unpublished links to lists of notable graves, walking tours and other material about Black, Hispanic and women veterans.

taskandpurpose.com

 

[Altitude sickness]

I’ve spent a lot of time in Jalalabad.. and a lot of time in London..

While London is absolutely fucked up like a football bat, and appears to only be getting worse… Jalalabad it is not (yet)…

Most of us have zero issue with legal immigration. The issues come when immigrants refuse to assimilate and then demand the host citizens to bend to their cultural norms and customs.

Even in the work place the host citizen is deemed Xenophobic if they expect assimilation.

Then laws force the citizen to bend to assimilate to the immigrants culture or be jailed or fired from work if stating the facts in front of their face.

Unfortunately the later is what is happening in Europe and in some US cities

 

[steve white]

a short while back I decided against posting any longer in the political thread as I felt I’ve made all the posts I could contribute and had begun to repeat myself. Further I found myself lashing out at fellow forum members most I felt justified in but one was uncalled for and frankly uncouth behaviour.

@John Wasmuth i owe you and apology my comment to you last week was uncalled for and spoken out of frustration which is no excuse. I began to type you a pm this morning apologizing in private and decided against it. I made my remark in public why then should I be allowed to recant it private.

Although I do not always agree with your political views I appreciate your contribution as a fellow forum member and hope you can forgive my inflammatory comment.

We accept your apology, not sure we could have done it for that SkinnersBlade fellow....lol

 

[observe]

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I SPEAK ON BEHALF of a sizeable portion of South Africa [of all races] who would once and for all like to know exactly which whites stole which pieces of land and from which blacks.

The message that goes out from the presumptuous EFF and thus indirectly from the ANC is that all land was stolen from all blacks by all whites...

Not only does Juliass malema makes such false statements, but many others too who support him, so this is a serious issue which requires serious clarity. Let’s look at one small example.

In 1834 the king of the Pondos, King Faku, gave the land between the Mbashe and Mkomazi rivers to the Dutch settlers on the condition that they go and live there.

He wanted them as a buffer between him and Dingane who constantly stole his cattle and tried to chase him off his land.

Another agreement was in February 1838, when Dingane himself signed a treaty allowing Piet Retief and his group of approximately 100 Voortrekkers to occupy the land between the Tegula River and Port St. John's.. (a copy of this agreement can still be found today).

In 1825, when Shaka met the British for the first time, he allowed the British to take control of what was then called Port Natal, and, in return for this gesture, 2 British commanders, known as Fynn and Farewell, presented Shaka with beads, brass, blankets made of cloth, and other small inventions that could have very easily been brought over by ship.

These are just a few examples of some land that whites legally, or by mutual agreement, acquired from blacks. These stretches of land, and the farms on this land today, certainly cannot be defined as stolen...

Our history is littered with such barters and gifts, where land was traded for cattle or in many cases given as a reward for returning lost or stolen cattle from a neighbouring tribe to its original tribe. As for King Faku, the question is whether the land was Faku’s to give in the first place. He, or his predecessor, undoubtedly took it by force from another hapless black tribe...

Stealing, you may call it. Of course Dingaan also tried to get his hands on it. He, and particularly Shaka before him, “stole” massive pieces of land; in fact they chased the Matabele people off their land, all the way to Zimbabwe where they still live.

The Matabele may argue that a large part of South Africa rightfully belongs to them and that the current black inhabitants should depart. Needless to say that, even before the black tribes started “stealing” land from each other, the San people lived here.

They have the strongest claim of all.

To add a twist, by studying old documents and reading old diaries, you discover that vast areas of land were uninhabited when the Dutch arrived, basically no-man’s land. These areas got occupied and vacated almost at random, as a result of regional wars (or exterminations by other tribes) that took place from time to time.

The only difference between the Dutch who settled there and the previous occupants, who were gone, was that the Dutch were able to defend their positions and were not driven away.

I’m not sure how to bring this letter to the attention of juliass [race mad] malema and those who think like him. It is a very serious issue, since the disregard of treaties, no matter how old, tends to de-stabilize whole regions.

We need clarity about the grounds on which juju malema's own claims are based...
[...for the record....he is a Zimbabwean living here and spreading race hatred in south africa...]

If he is not interested in historic fact or the historic treaties that his forefathers entered into (not to mention those made by the ANC with the NP in 1994), and if he simply wants to seize land belonging to whites, then he is of course, planning to cause unrest, ,

#RaceagainstRace

....To My Critic's it's Not a White Thing, It's The Right Thing..

Here are certain crooked politicians that on purpose mislead the [deliberate unschooled?] jobless voting masses [and overseas liberals?] into a land/property war,....... that can become very-very ugly....!