Politics

[Tubby’s Canteen]

The typical committed Trump supporter seems to firmly accept that as well.

That is what scares me the most about the state of North America at present. The divide between left and right has gone so far as to be tribal on both sides anyone with centralist leanings is ostracized by both sides.

 

[LivingTheDream]

That’s what makes it so frustrating when we actually had a chance to elect a leader that wanted to rebuild are military repeal a series of needless gun laws and cut wasteful spending only to watch it all be torpedoed by an unnecessary trade war.

Trump has done more damage to the conservatives in Canada than any targeted foreign election interference ever could. Through outright lies on trade imbalances and giving the liberals a target to rally the country against.

Honestly, if Canadian voters are dumb enough to blame the conservative party of Canada (a party not in power) because of what Trump is doing in America for the shitty policies they have today. Then good luck and they deserve every bit of pain that comes their way, stupidity should hurt.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

You keep on believing that. Trump is a better poker player.

He should be he can lie to a nation and at times the whole world with a straight face.

 

[mdwest]

That is what scares me the most about the state of North America at present. The divide between left and right has gone so far as to be tribal on both sides anyone with centralist leanings is ostracized by both sides.

I think there’s a good chance this could self correct in four years… but it’s certainly got potential to be a very rocky ride for the remainder of this term..

If the D’s have any chance of coming back they are going to have to run a more centrist candidate.. the American people’s tolerance for the extreme left is gone.. they can’t win no matter who is presented on the R side if they run a Tim Walz type profile.. as was just proven… who was previously one of the most detested people on the planet, that didn’t have the support of the R center, just handed the D’s their collective asses, by winning every single swing state in the country..

And all of the next generation of R candidates like Rubio, DeSantis, Vance, etc.. while mostly far right leaning, are more moderate and regulated in their approach to things and certainly more diplomatic and easier to connect to and negotiate with…

That’s not to say they don’t all know how to drive an extremely hard bargain.. they absolutely do..

But I think they will be much more palatable to both the center domestically and to other leaders internationally…

 

[Brent in Az]

He should be he can lie to a nation and at times the whole world with a straight face.

"Squawk.....orange man bad.....orange man bad"

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Honestly, if Canadian voters are dumb enough to blame the conservative party of Canada (a party not in power) because of what Trump is doing in America for the shitty policies they have today. Then good luck and they deserve every bit of pain that comes their way, stupidity should hurt.

It’s not that simple in Canada we don’t have an electoral collage to protect us. All it takes is for Quebec and Ontario to be convinced and the country falls. The best the rest of Canada can do is decide majority or minority.

 

[Brent in Az]

Honestly, if Canadian voters are dumb enough to blame the conservative party of Canada (a party not in power) because of what Trump is doing in America for the shitty policies they have today. Then good luck and they deserve every bit of pain that comes their way, stupidity should hurt.

It's easier for them to jump on political forum's, and blame Trump for everything under the sun.

 

[Brent in Az]

It’s not that simple in Canada we don’t have an electoral collage to protect us. All it takes is for Quebec and Ontario to be convinced and the country falls. The best the rest of Canada can do is decide majority or minority.

We'll make you a trade. We will send you all of our leftist loonies who hate the electoral college, in exchange for Canadian conservatives.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

It's easier for them to jump on political forum's, and blame Trump for everything under the sun.

Point out one thing I said that was untrue if I’m wrong.

Trump negotiated and signed the new nafta agreement when in power last time easily verified online or you can simply look back a few pages and see where mdwest and I were discussing it the links are there.

Trump lied about the trade deficit by claiming it is over 200billion when in reality it is 63 billion offset by another 19 billion in oil windfall.

When trump first started with tariff talks it was strictly a financial issue. Then when he realized the issues with the trade agreement in place it was all of a sudden a security issue.

So I need to bother rehashing how Ukraine didn’t start the war of can we agree it’s Been covered?

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

We'll make you a trade. We will send you all of our leftist loonies who hate the electoral college, in exchange for Canadian conservatives.

I’m a voting member of the Conservative Party have voted conservative sense Harper was in power before which I was to young to vote. In Canada you would most likely not be a conservative from your stated view you’d more likely align with the PPC.

 

[Brent in Az]

Point out one thing I said that was untrue if I’m wrong.

Trump negotiated and signed the new nafta agreement when in power last time easily verified online or you can simply look back a few pages and see where mdwest and I were discussing it the links are there.

Trump lied about the trade deficit by claiming it is over 200billion when in reality it is 63 billion offset by another 19 billion in oil windfall.

When trump first started with tariff talks it was strictly a financial issue. Then when he realized the issues with the trade agreement in place it was all of a sudden a security issue.

So I need to bother rehashing how Ukraine didn’t start the war of can we agree it’s Ben covered?

I can agree that Trump is wrong in stating that Ukraine started the war.
Joe Biden started it.

 

[Tundra Tiger]

I’m a voting member of the Conservative Party have voted conservative sense Harper was in power before which I was to young to vote. In Canada you would most likely not be a conservative from your stated view you’d more likely align with the PPC.

Piece of advice? Put him on ignore. The ignore function improves the experience my friend.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I can agree that Trump is wrong in stating that Ukraine started the war.
Joe Biden started it.

Imagine for a minute you live in a gated community. At the front gate is a security officer, if the security officer dozed off on duty and a criminal stages a home invasion in the community killing a family did the security officer commit murder? I think not he’s definitely guilty of negligence but he’s certainly not ultimately responsible for the actions of the criminal.

 

[gbflyer]

Who would have thought a couple years ago that John Fetterman would be the voice of reason for a failing party. I’m starting to really like him. Put a guy like him, maybe Dean Phillips…I’m sure there’s more, and it would be a different ball game. Democrats must stop screaming at the sky. Fox link:

Fetterman calls out Dems' 'unhinged petulance' after Trump speech: 'We’re becoming the metaphorical car alarm'

Fetterman calls out his own party's behavior, warning that they're "becoming the metaphorical car alarms that nobody pays attention to." He also agreed with Trump's warning to Hamas.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Piece of advice? Put him on ignore. The ignore function improves the experience my friend.

It’s two windy to fish and the weathers not fit to cut logs so this is cheap entertainment until I decide to take dad for diner somewheres.

 

[Tundra Tiger]

Who would have thought a couple years ago that John Fetterman would be the voice of reason for a failing party. I’m starting to really like him. Put a guy like him, maybe Dean Phillips…I’m sure there’s more, and it would be a different ball game. Democrats must stop screaming at the sky. Fox link:

Fetterman calls out Dems' 'unhinged petulance' after Trump speech: 'We’re becoming the metaphorical car alarm'

Fetterman calls out his own party's behavior, warning that they're "becoming the metaphorical car alarms that nobody pays attention to." He also agreed with Trump's warning to Hamas.

www.foxnews.com

Totally agree.

 

[Brent in Az]

I’m a voting member of the Conservative Party have voted conservative sense Harper was in power before which I was to young to vote. In Canada you would most likely not be a conservative from your stated view you’d more likely align with the PPC.

There are different levels of conservatism. My levels are more complex.
I'm a fiscal Hawk, and constitutional conservative. Centrist on some issues and far right on others.
At the end of the day, I have a deep loathing for the left wingers of this country and the overreach of federal government.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

There are different levels of conservatism. My levels are more complex.
I'm a fiscal Hawk, and constitutional conservative. Centrist on some issues and far right on others.
At the end of the day, I have a deep loathing for the left wingers of this country and the overreach of federal government.

Which would most likely align you with our ppc which is what I stated above but thanks for reiterating it.

 

[KJE81]

I can agree that Trump is wrong in stating that Ukraine started the war.
Joe Biden started it.

I thought it was Putins Russia that invaded Ukraine...

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I thought it was Putins Russia that invaded Ukraine...

Not if you tighten you red hat all the way down and drink the special orange version of kool-aid