Politics

[Brent in Az]

on another matter

This afternoon it has been announced that those two little boys, aged 9 months and 4 years old, whom Hamas claimed were killed in an IDF strike, were strangled

Just think about that for a moment

The Hamas are nothing but filthy animals, and should be wiped off the face of the earth

 

[YancyW]

on another matter

This afternoon it has been announced that those two little boys, aged 9 months and 4 years old, whom Hamas claimed were killed in an IDF strike, were strangled

Just think about that for a moment

Three buses explode near Tel Aviv in 'suspected terror attack'

Police say it is possible timers went off prematurely when the buses blew up when they were empty.

www.bbc.com

 

[Lone Star Bluegrass]

Gallup Poll: Most Ukrainians will only see the war as a Ukrainian victory if they regain all territory lost since 2014.

 

[Tundra Tiger]

Smart and experienced group here. Business CEO’s, military officers, public servants, authors, physicians, academics etc. None ignorant. Those who voted for Trump surely knew his platform: radical change, because status quo flat - out isn’t working. Radical change is what you are getting. It isn’t going to be a comfortable ride. It’s hard for a simple man such as myself to find coherence in all the outrage on display here.

For myself I don't think it's outrage. Possibly more akin to disappointment? And I take your point - yes, this probably is exactly, in many ways, what most of us expected. Radical change is fine, even needed. Absolutely. Some discomfort with that change should be expected. My problem - always has been - is the bombastic ass-hat narcissistic attitude that frequently accompanies that radical change. I hadn't really thought about it but maybe that's why my perception of Musk has been mostly positive: he's affecting radical change, but seemingly without the pompousness of Trump. You can argue about whether Musk has an ego or not, but it sure doesn't manifest itself publicly.

I consider myself a simple man too, but what I can't wrap my head around is why Trump thinks the way he acts is OK, or that he can't seem to realize that things could be even better by choosing his words a little more carefully. Is he really that dense? Or does he just simply not care? Neither is a happy thought. Blaming Ukraine? That's where I can't find coherence, and if I do feel any outrage it might be rooted in that.

 

[John Wasmuth]

I’m going to guess @roverandbrew know who Randy Weaver, Vicki Weaver, Bo Gritz, Lin Horuchi etc better than most on this forum…

Consider the regiment Weaver claimed he served in (he didn’t), the regiment Gritz served in (he legitimately did), and the unit Horuchi served in..

And then if you’ve paid any attention to who Rover is, you’d see very direct connections…

His point is (I think… I don’t want to put words in his mouth), is what does an activity that happened quite literally before 99% of the currently serving members of the FBI graduated high school have to do with anything going on today?

Ruby Ridge happened in August of 1992… 33 years ago…

Should we also hold today’s serving agents accountable for Hoovers intel collection activities against political rivals?

Everyone that was at Ruby Ridge has long been retired… many of them are dead… it has nothing to do with today’s FBI…

If we want to hold the FBI’s leadership accountable for what the FBI has become today… how about we focus on the SES and GS15 bureaucrats that likely entered service 5-15 years after Ruby Ridge…

Saying Lon Horouchi (the sniper that shot and killed Vicki Weaver) is indicative of a currently serving FBI HRT team member is tantamount to saying George HW Bush is indicative of who we believe Donald Trump is.

It’s much like saying “Free Leonard”, at lot of us still remember Jumping Bull…….

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

Gallup Poll: Most Ukrainians will only see the war as a Ukrainian victory if they regain all territory lost since 2014.

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If they were capable of it on their own then that’s an understandable position.. I’d be the same way. Given the reality of the situation they probably need to be a little more realistic in their expectations…

 

[barryk]

I generally disagree with 1/4 to 1/2 of what Paul says and he does veer off in this video but the man’s not wrong on most of it. IMHO

His reasoning sounds logical to me....what am I missing? Why not start by reallocating wasteful dollars that DOGE has identified to military and national security first before increasing our debt?

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

His reasoning sounds logical to me....what am I missing? Why not start by reallocating wasteful dollars that DOGE has identified to military and national security first before increasing our debt?

Later in the vid talking about not needing a military presence in certain places, thoughts on Ukraine etc.. I’m on board with the rest of it etc…

It boggles my mind that they’re talking about giving 20% of the savings to the people, 20% of it to debt. And the rest?? How about 80% plus go to servicing the debt and allocate the rest to thoughtful, rational spending.

 

[Hunt anything]

Later in the vid talking about not needing a military presence in certain places, thoughts on Ukraine etc.. I’m on board with the rest of it etc…

It boggles my mind that they’re talking about giving 20% of the savings to the people, 20% of it to debt. And the rest?? How about 80% plus go to servicing the debt and allocate the rest to thoughtful, rational spending.

That makes too much sense for the government.

 

[Lone Star Bluegrass]

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If they were capable of it on their own then that’s an understandable position.. I’d be the same way. Given the reality of the situation they probably need to be a little more realistic in their expectations…

I’m not so sure that their opinion is subject to a means based strategy but I understand what you’re saying.

 

[cmk]

If they were capable of it on their own then that’s an understandable position.. I’d be the same way. Given the reality of the situation they probably need to be a little more realistic in their expectations…

Respectfully "NO". To me, that line of reasoning is bordering on appeasement. It didn't work the last time round. Either we forcefully drive home that unprovoked aggression is not tolerated and that there can be no territorial gains from it, or we accept a world where the stronger will be allowed to do as they please.

The western world (and most certainly Europe) woke up a bit late, as we didn't correctly interpret the signs of what was coming. But now we are where we are, and if we let this pass, what's coming next? Moldova? Georgia?(again) The Baltic states? Taiwan? (different aggressor, same MO)

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

Respectfully "NO". To me, that line of reasoning is bordering on appeasement. It didn't work the last time round. Either we forcefully drive home that unprovoked aggression is not tolerated and that there can be no territorial gains from it, or we accept a world where the stronger will be allowed to do as they please.

The western world (and most certainly Europe) woke up a bit late, as we didn't correctly interpret the signs of what was coming. But now we are where we are, and if we let this pass, what's coming next? Moldova? Georgia?(again) The Baltic states? Taiwan? (different aggressor, same MO)

I get what you’re saying but that’s not the reality of the situation. This will end in a settlement. They’re going to have to accept that either before or after the fact. It’s either that or we and Europe significantly ramp up our support and involvement.

I completely agree if we were talking unprovoked aggression against ourselves or an ally. Ukraine also to an extent for strategic reasons.

 

[Wheels]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1892766345760014657

Over 40 minutes long, but very much worth the time.

I find the part of this interview in the top clip attached interesting on how the idea of Canada becoming a State first came up. It gives some clarity as to how the statement started.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1892973318145503692

 

[Doubleplay]

The easiest way for the postal service to save money would be suspend Saturday mail delivery but the union won’t go for that.
Closing some of the smaller offices would help to. Within 5 miles of my house I have 3 post offices. That’s a little overkill.

Maybe but I don't have a post office within 5 mile of my house and I live in a suburban environment.

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

Don't always agree with Gutfeld, but one of his opening monologues was about "forgetting what Trump SAYS, and paying attention to what Trump does. What he did last term was great, for the courts and for the economy. What he is doing with DOGE is even better--and I wish he could expand it to the state beauracracies. We would keep getting those refund checks.
I want to ask a serious question: would anyone but Donald Trump have gotten a DOGE like operation off the ground, AND, would you have been just as pleased if it had never happened? Would it have been OK with you if DeSantis had done business as usual with a few improvements, but never have disturbed the status quo enough to identify 4.7 trillion dollars that can't be traced thus far, and 50+ thousand NGOs associated with USAID, and the hundreds of billions in fraud and waste thus far discovered? Would you have been content to roll ignorantly along on the path to plunder and bankruptcy with a president who "acted and sounded presidential?" If you are a fan of the old status quo, then would you please identify yourself as in that camp before you crucify Trump at every turn? IMO, the 4.7 trillion and all the rest would have been beyond recovery in 4 years with anyone else, on either side of the aisle in charge. If the enemy of the good is the perfect, why expect it from him--you never put the burden of perfection on anyone else.
BTW, buckle your seat belts--Patel is confirmed, and competent, and motivated, and that just really made my day.

The USA was in a huge mess, still is, but at least there is a different trajectory now. It affects us all. I am utterly shocked at the nit picking going on - give it a chance folks, look at the big picture. Surely the big items must be bringing you some satisfaction:
Securing of the southern (and northern) border.
Ejecting dangerous criminals.
Undoing woke policies.
Trimming down government.
Increasing energy independence.

How can you not be satisfied with this progress? It is not the final shape of things, there will be smoothing out as it progresses.

But against this on the international stage you have found cause to criticise utterances. Yes, things could and should have been said better, but it is towards change. On the Ukraine front the end game has not even begun. Who knows what the outcome will be, but without a change what would have been the end point of the current trajectory?

In the Middle East things are at last moving along an admittedly bumpy road, and in response to Trump's utterances about his Gaza plan the regional heads are at last taking the situation seriously and proposing a solution themselves. What more do you want.

Your President is anything but conventional, you knew he was this way, you voted for him. It may not be the smoothest of rides, but it will be far, far better than Biden or Harris. You very nearly lost everything under those two. Us also.

 

[Doubleplay]

Smart and experienced group here. Business CEO’s, military officers, public servants, authors, physicians, academics etc. None ignorant. Those who voted for Trump surely knew his platform: radical change, because status quo flat - out isn’t working. Radical change is what you are getting. It isn’t going to be a comfortable ride. It’s hard for a simple man such as myself to find coherence in all the outrage on display here.

You'll see the real outrage when Republicans lose the mid terms.
This is not radical change this is reckless...

 

[YancyW]

You'll see the real outrage when Republicans lose the mid terms.
This is not radical change this is reckless...

You think Dems pick up both chambers?

 

[CJW]

Imagine being outnumbered by 20 yr old middle easterners in your community left to roam free for no purpose and being threatened with "hate crime" laws when you complain about it. WTF has happened to the UK and Europe? Not to mention your own police officers constantly cause second hand embarrassment.

 

[CJW]

You'll see the real outrage when Republicans lose the mid terms.
This is not radical change this is reckless...

What are they supposed to do? Sit around on their hands playing nicely nice with nothing to show for it for 2 years, possibly lose a few seats and then lose ANY ability to affect change? I know it's easy to sit back and play armchair quarterback throwing out a random belittling statement here and there, but there are people in DC right now actually getting things done. Democrats, who have gone above and beyond to destabilize any sense of normality in this country so that they can eventually rule over the ashes, quite literally recently in HI and CA, need to sit back and take what they brought on themselves if they have any sense. But of course they don't which is what brought us here and has driven even the minority vote even further away from themselves.

 

[Doubleplay]

You think Dems pick up both chambers?

Maybe maybe not but the path we're on will cause losses.