Politics

[Scott CWO]

Losses in Vietnam?!? The North Vietnamese were primarily supported by the Soviet Union. The Vietnamese and Chinese have hated one another for hundreds of years. It actually turned into a brief armed conflict iLosses in Vietnam?!? The North Vietnamese were primarily supported by the Soviet Union. The Vietnamese and Chinese have hated one another for hundreds of years. It actually turned into a brief armed conflict in 1979.

Losses in Vietnam?!? The North Vietnamese were primarily supported by the Soviet Union. The Vietnamese and Chinese have hated one another for hundreds of years. It actually turned into a brief armed conflict in 1979.

Yes the Chinese backed North Korea, not Viet Nam and there weren’t much for protests about the Korean War.

 

[Scott CWO]

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Hey Biden, I’ve got news for you. My boys and their families already had plane tickets back to Colorado before your speech! What a jackwagon.

 

[longbow70]

From what I've heard, Manchin supports background checks.

He does, but he doesn't support getting rid of the filibuster.

 

[Red Leg]

In North Carolina BBQ is a noun and not a verb!

It is also a strange yellow color...........

 

[wesheltonj]

Centerville on the north side of Taylor. Be prepared to drink your beer from a bottle.

Instead of Mueller’s in Taylor?

 

[Red Leg]

Instead of Mueller’s in Taylor?

Not a fan.

 

[jeanes]

Instead of Mueller’s in Taylor?

Mikeskas was better but, sadly, not there any more. Used to like to stop there for lunch after morning dove hunt at Granger WMA.

 

[jpr9954]

It is also a strange yellow color...........

That is only in SOUTH Carolina.

 

[sgt_zim]

I also understand completely. We'll have to try it out. Thanks.

if you or @Red Leg ever find yourselves out in Ozona, the diner (I hope it's still there) at the west exit on I-10 makes the best CFS + German potatoes and red cabbage I've ever eaten.

 

[jeanes]

Sgt Zim
Definitely will remember that. Thanks

 

[Ray B]

Losses in Vietnam?!? The North Vietnamese were primarily supported by the Soviet Union. The Vietnamese and Chinese have hated one another for hundreds of years. It actually turned into a brief armed conflict in 1979.

Yes the Chinese backed North Korea, not Viet Nam and there weren’t much for protests about the Korean War.

Two points;
Not that it matters but the unit I was with in 1967-8 B/1/5 captured a Chinese soldier and KIA'd the rest, so I have firsthand verification that China had some involvement. But the main point is 2
Point 2- From whatever conflicts China has involved itself it may have learned that direct conflict should be the option of last resort. So in dealing with Formosa aka Taiwan I expect China to seek collection of their $1.5B investment in the Biden family and generate a propaganda campaign designed to demonize Taiwan so that China can come to the rescue and have no interference from the Free World. But as noted above by others, China will be very watchful of the 2022 elections and if it looks as though china's window of opportunity is closing, they may drop all pretenses and fire when ready.

 

[mdwest]

1967-8 B/1/5.

Which ODA?

Or USMC B/1/5?

 

[Ray B]

It was Bravo Co 1st Btn 5th Regt 1st Mar Div, Nov 23 67 - Dec 13 68

 

[mdwest]

Roger...

The guy that gave me my first salute (lifelong friend of the family) was Army SF B/1/5 in the late 60’s and early 70s... thought you two might have served together....

 

[Red Leg]

Two points;
Not that it matters but the unit I was with in 1967-8 B/1/5 captured a Chinese soldier and KIA'd the rest, so I have firsthand verification that China had some involvement. But the main point is 2
Point 2- From whatever conflicts China has involved itself it may have learned that direct conflict should be the option of last resort. So in dealing with Formosa aka Taiwan I expect China to seek collection of their $1.5B investment in the Biden family and generate a propaganda campaign designed to demonize Taiwan so that China can come to the rescue and have no interference from the Free World. But as noted above by others, China will be very watchful of the 2022 elections and if it looks as though china's window of opportunity is closing, they may drop all pretenses and fire when ready.

Yes, there were indeed some Chinese advisors in Vietnam, but the primary source of North Vietnamese military and economic support came from the Soviets. As I noted, relations deteriorated to a shooting conflict with China in 1979. My only point is that I am not sure what lessons the Chinese would have learned from the eventual North Vietnamese victory in SE Asia that are applicable to US relations today.

I do indeed fear a miscalculation on their part with respect to Taiwan. A great deal of their stranglehold over the US economy was loosened over the last two-years. Biden has limited ability within his own party with regard to his reaction to a direct Chinese threat against Taiwan. He, obviously rather dramatically changed his tune in his recent meeting with the senate leadership. In other words, the Chinese investment in Biden is likely worth quite a bit less than it would appear to be.

The Chinese seem to be most adept at playing the long game rather than reacting to perceived tactical opportunities. I suspect they will be cautious and wait and see if '22 indicates any Republican resurgence. If it does, then I expect them to be more cautious still.

One thing is certain. We'll know over the next 18 months.

You were in Vietnam during a particularly tough time. Glad you made it home. A lot of 1st Mar Div lads didn't.

 

[Opposite Pole]

Yes, there were indeed some Chinese advisors in Vietnam, but the primary source of North Vietnamese military and economic support came from the Soviets. As I noted, relations deteriorated to a shooting conflict with China in 1979. My only point is that I am not sure what lessons the Chinese would have learned from the eventual North Vietnamese victory in SE Asia that are applicable to US relations today.

I do indeed fear a miscalculation on their part with respect to Taiwan. A great deal of their stranglehold over the US economy was loosened over the last two-years. Biden has limited ability within his own party with regard to his reaction to a direct Chinese threat against Taiwan. He, obviously rather dramatically changed his tune in his recent meeting with the senate leadership. In other words, the Chinese investment in Biden is likely worth quite a bit less than it would appear to be.

The Chinese seem to be most adept at playing the long game rather than reacting to perceived tactical opportunities. I suspect they will be cautious and wait and see if '22 indicates any Republican resurgence. If it does, then I expect them to be more cautious still.

One thing is certain. We'll know over the next 18 months.

You were in Vietnam during a particularly tough time. Glad you made it home. A lot of 1st Mar Div lads didn't.

Sir, I agree with you that “The Chinese seem to be most adept at playing the long game rather than reacting to perceived tactical opportunities.”.

However, I disagree that US elections in 22 are significant to them. The result will of course be relevant but these people plan for centuries, not merely nearby elections.

 

[cpr0312]

 

[Ray B]

Seeing the "mostly peaceful" activities in several cities, the "challenge" at the border, and other terms used by politicians I must conclude that they are defining words vastly different from the common usage.

Depending on which homonym they are using I find that I could support "registering" of firearms, however I am using the term that describes orienting an artillery piece to a target. I doubt that they would consider registering guns using the artillery definition unless the area being registered was a Trump rally.

For those unfamiliar with this registering it is the setting the traverse and elevation mechanism of artillery, shooting spotter rounds, hitting the target, then saving the settings so that when needed the guns is already dialed in on the target. Registering a battery for the area where George Floyd died in preparation for an unlawful disturbance seems quite Constitutional to me. As long as air burst Variable Time rather than Point Detonating fuses are used- after all, the problem is rioters, not buildings.

 

[Red Leg]

 

[sgt_zim]

Seeing the "mostly peaceful" activities in several cities, the "challenge" at the border, and other terms used by politicians I must conclude that they are defining words vastly different from the common usage.

Depending on which homonym they are using I find that I could support "registering" of firearms, however I am using the term that describes orienting an artillery piece to a target. I doubt that they would consider registering guns using the artillery definition unless the area being registered was a Trump rally.

For those unfamiliar with this registering it is the setting the traverse and elevation mechanism of artillery, shooting spotter rounds, hitting the target, then saving the settings so that when needed the guns is already dialed in on the target. Registering a battery for the area where George Floyd died in preparation for an unlawful disturbance seems quite Constitutional to me. As long as air burst Variable Time rather than Point Detonating fuses are used- after all, the problem is rioters, not buildings.

one of THE most important things these Marcusians have to accomplish is to co-opt language.

"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' " Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'"

"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument'," Alice objected.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."