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Now you're throwing out some Zionist revisionist history.

Truth is the Zionists have sabotaged every potential agreement of the last 50 or so years simply by refusing to allow Palestinian refugees to return home when the Palestinian State was formalized.

Zionists always try to blame the Palestinians for spoiling peace efforts. They always contrive some ridiculous excuse for continuing their mass murder.

Today it's that the Palestinians are not finding the bodies of hostages buried by Zionist bombs fast enough.

So the tiresome old evil of ethnic cleansing continues.
It happened. Bombings of buses and streets derailed the deal. Pay attention.
 
I said "going broke" and you changed it to "broke."

Nice twisting of my words, though.
Okay, how’s this? I don’t know any that are “going broke.” You lost.
 
I’m sure there is some reasoning behind it…but I honestly can’t fathom why Mercedes hasn’t built both personal and commercial trucks for the US market.. based on the quality and use of those vehicles in Europe and in other parts of the world, I’d think they’d sell in huge numbers in the US…

Not sure if the market is large enough to support a plant but it would be neat to see Unimogs built in America.
 
ohoo look snowflake is back thought his blah blah had carried him off to the sheep pen :ROFLMAO:
 
As for big trucks, Mercedes builds Frightliner in the US. 1 year they had a mini pickup truck. It was on a Nissan frame and unibody. It did not sell well and was discontinued. Mercedes says they don’t want to be in the large pickup business. I’ve owned 5 Mercedes. (3 were my daughters, she has a problem with deer) I will buy the made in Germany over the made in the US every time.

I would love a full size 3/4 ton Mercedes pickup.
 
Speaking of trucks that would sell in the US. Interesting back and forth on X today, some tech guy reposted a clip of Trump making remarks about Toyota building in the US, he made the comment (probably in jest) about the LC79, and Palmer Luckey chimed in and claimed he was working on it.... that would be cool.




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I would love a full size 3/4 ton Mercedes pickup.
Put a Mercedes diesel in it and I’d buy it sight unseen and likely drive it until the day I died…
 
I've watched a few videos from Sarah Paine. She's a professor at the Naval War College. Interesting and informative.

 
The Toyota Hilux, which I guess is Asia's market version of the Tacoma, comes with an optional diesel engine, which I don't think we can get here?
right... no diesel hilux or diesel tacoma in the US.. theyre available in other markets.. but for whatever reason they arent sold here..

I'd love a diesel tacoma as well..
 
It happened. Bombings of buses and streets derailed the deal. Pay attention.
As I posted previously, there was in fact a deal that the Palestinian Authority (essentially the PLO) jointly negotiated at Camp David with the Israelis and the US. Ehud Barak led the Israeli delegation, Bill Clinton the US, and Yasser Arafat the Palestinians. There were major issues of contention, but a deal was finally hammered out that made no one entirely happy, but would have created a Palestinian State with the Arab quarter of Jerusalem as its capital. Israel's capital at the time was Tel Aviv. At the last minute, Arafat walked away from it. Palestinian revisionist history claims it was because it did not address fully issues like right of return. The reality is that the deal was done, but Arafat could not bring himself to be a great man like Anwar Sadat choosing instead to remain "relevant" as the leader of a group of terrorist thugs.

Other than vocal sympathy, one can trace the political abandonment of the Palestinians by most of the remainder of the Arab world to their frustration with those failed negotiations. Iran stepped in to fill the void for its own hegemonic purposes, using both the Palestinians and northern Shia minorities to sow regional conflict. It is why regional Arab sympathy for the Palestinians remains at a historically low point even following the Gaza campaign.

The Palestinian refugee problem is real, but it is also one in which they played a significant role in their own creation. That somehow the Zionists woke up one morning and drove the Palestinians out is the sort of revisionist history that the ignorant demonstrating millennials and boomers embrace because they have no real education on the subject and are subject to the breathless propagandists on X, Tic Toc, and too many college campuses.

The refugees are a direct result of the 1947-49 war which resulted from the end of the British Mandate and planned implementation of the UN Partition Plan of 1947 which would have created a Jewish and an Arab State with Jerusalem maintained under international administration. Regional Arab leadership rejected this plan leading to the first war of attempted Arab extermination of Israel. Initially a viscous guerrilla war conducted by both sides, that changed dramatically when conventional Arab armies invaded in 1948.

That conventional warfare changed the nature of the conflict dramatically as mechanized military formations from Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon attempted and ultimately failed to eradicate the fledgling state of Israel. That of course puts a lie to now pandered "facts" embraced by the chattering class, that a then almost non-existent but somehow all powerful Israeli military machine was used to drive the civilian population out of Israel. A drive along Israeli highway Route 1 (a particularly beautiful forested mountain road) would be informative to those who believe this nonsense. There one can see the destroyed locally armored trucks maintained as memorials that the Israelis were forced to use against Jordanian and Egyptian armor (primarily British) as they fought to keep the supply route open from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

So, what happened and why did roughly 700,000 refugees flee what would have been their homes had they and their regional Arab sponsors simply accepted the UN plan? As I mentioned, the guerilla warfare phase was a particularly dirty war which the Israelis were both willing and able to prosecute as effectively as the Palestinians. Villages and Kubutzes occupied by Palestinians and Israelis were regularly attacked. Unfortunately for the Arabs, the Israelis tended to fight tenaciously and most kubutzes, which became small fortresses, survived. In a precursor to the series of wars to come, the Arab settlers did not, opting to run.

As the war became conventional. major portions of the landscape became true battlefields. Villages were used as strongpoints by both sides leading to their destruction. The Jews stayed and fought because they were fighting for the survival of their fledgling country and the survival of their families, while the Palestinians fled to the shelter of the Arab Armies and Arab States attempting to destroy the Israelis. Their expectations were to return over the bodies of the Zionists to seize all of Palestine however much of it may have been legally acquired in the preceding fifty years by Jews.

To the astonishment of most of the world. and none more so than the Palestinians, the Israelis prevailed. In Israel, the period is called the War of Independence. The Arab world refers to it as the "Nakba" which translates as the Catastrophe. Not surprisingly, Israel has had little appetite to repatriate a segment of the former population that was dedicated to Israel's destruction. Having gone through the Crucible of the Holocaust and War of Independence followed by every action since 49 whether by the PLO in Munich or Entebbe, the rocket barrages from Lebanon and Gaza, or the butchery of October 7th, the Arabs have reinforced that conclusion.

Interestingly a segment of the Palestinians did remain. Today they make up nearly 20% of the Israeli population (almost 2 million people). They are full citizens with all political and civil rights enjoying every level of Israeli society, including serving as politicians, judges, and in other government positions. The one exception is the military where, like Christians, they do not face compulsory military service like Jewish citizens. However, many voluntarily serve in the IDF. These too are facts diligently ignored by the revisionists.
 
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Only if we pay attention to your limited knowledge.
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It happened. Bombings of buses and streets derailed the deal. Pay attention.
Pay attention to your false Zionist opinions?

I prefer facts instead.

The right of return that is backed up by International Law has never--not once--been recognized by the lawless Zionist Jews.

They break the law with impunity.

So your claim that bombings derailed peace is not only opinion........even worse--it is propaganda to conceal the real reason that peace has never been achieved--right of return has killed every deal because the Zionists refuse to consider it.

This is a fact.

The right of return is also enshrined in international law. The UN General Assembly in December 1948 adopted Resolution 194, which called for the return of Palestinian refugees to their homes. In June 1967, the UN Security Council passed Resolution 237 calling on Israel to facilitate the return of refugees, thereby including those forced out by Israel’s seizure of land days earlier.

Israel continues to violate its obligations under international law. It has no intention of correcting or addressing the historic injustices that created the Palestinian refugee problem, and the right of return has been one of the main issues preventing a just settlement of the conflict. In the rare instances that Israel even considers Palestinian statehood, it regards the right of return as out of the question.
 
Pay attention to your false Zionist opinions?

I prefer facts instead.

The right of return that is backed up by International Law has never--not once--been recognized by the lawless Zionist Jews.

They break the law with impunity.

So your claim that bombings derailed peace is not only opinion........even worse--it is propaganda to conceal the real reason that peace has never been achieved--right of return has killed every deal because the Zionists refuse to consider it.

This is a fact.

The right of return is also enshrined in international law. The UN General Assembly in December 1948 adopted Resolution 194, which called for the return of Palestinian refugees to their homes. In June 1967, the UN Security Council passed Resolution 237 calling on Israel to facilitate the return of refugees, thereby including those forced out by Israel’s seizure of land days earlier.

Israel continues to violate its obligations under international law. It has no intention of correcting or addressing the historic injustices that created the Palestinian refugee problem, and the right of return has been one of the main issues preventing a just settlement of the conflict. In the rare instances that Israel even considers Palestinian statehood, it regards the right of return as out of the question.
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Only if we pay attention to your limited knowledge.

You know before you unfortunately materialised on this site this thread was quite informative and interesting....yes there were disagreements..arguments and the odd insult chucked....but it still chugged along pleasantly....with some pretty informed people from various industries and backgrounds contributing.....then you appeared and have single handedly basically not far off destroyed it.....you are the most obnoxious, arrogant, self centred argumentative individual that loves the sound of his own voice ,just repeating the same drivvle over and over and over ad infinitum....you are the king of copy and paste as you repeatedly use the same crap......I have been on this site for a few years, and I don't like slapping someone down and have rarely done it.....but you are something else ......
 

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