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[bowjijohn]

I thought that was their plan from the beginning...to destroy hamas....and it's not like they have held back in trying to achieve it....at least they have gone in full steam ahead, which most other countries haven't allowed their military to do in the past wars/conflicts ....hobbling them in the process

I believe their plan is to take, then HOLD

Rather than take, then move on, allowing Hamas to creep back in

I suspect that requires a more substantial ground force commitment

 

[Brent in Az]

This time the Israelis said they are going to take over one neighborhood at a time, and permanently occupy it once it's been cleared.
One rat burrow at a time.
I don't believe in giving an enemy a heads up on what's coming, but the Israelis are pretty savvy, and maybe they have a reason?

I thought that was their plan from the beginning...to destroy hamas....and it's not like they have held back in trying to achieve it....at least they have gone in full steam ahead, which most other countries haven't allowed their military to do in the past wars/conflicts ....hobbling them in the process

 

[Rocked and Loaded]

This time the Israelis said they are going to take over one neighborhood at a time, and permanently occupy it once it's been cleared.
One rat burrow at a time.
I don't believe in giving an enemy a heads up on what's coming, but the Israelis are pretty savvy, and maybe they have a reason?

That’s a reversal. At the beginning they were adamant that they wouldn’t occupy and administer Gaza permanently.

 

[Brent in Az]

That’s a reversal. At the beginning they were adamant that they wouldn’t occupy and administer Gaza permanently.

The missile launched by the Houthi's that landed inside the Israeli airport perimeter is the proverbial straw that broke the Camel's back.
I think we'll see some serious middle east conflict coming soon. Especially, if Iran isn't willing to shut down its nuclear weapons agenda

 

[mdwest]

That’s a reversal. At the beginning they were adamant that they wouldn’t occupy and administer Gaza permanently.

I think they are waking up to the reality that non occupation really isn't an option unless they want to be doing this again in 5-10 years..

The culture of the Palestinians is such that things arent changing without following one of a couple of different paths.. none of which are appealing..

Mass genocide (not really an option)

Elimination of Iran from the map (not really an option at the moment)

Occupation of Gaza (and potentially the West Bank).. not a great option.. but more appealing than the other two..

My firm has done a good bit of work in both Jordan and Israel directly supporting Palestinian law enforcement (before the Oct 7th attack.. the work was aligned with both Israel and the US State Departments requirements and was paid for by Israel and the USG).. As a result we had cause to interface directly with quite literally thousands of Palestinians (individuals and families).. We also did a significant amount of work in Lebanon.. our people in Beirut supported Lebanese "community oriented policing" activities.. which means they were working inside Palestinian neighborhoods, dealing with Palestinian families, etc routinely....

When a significant number of young palestinain women (perhaps most?) will straight up tell you that their purpose in life is to birth the next generation of martyrs for Hamas/Hezbollah.. and the overwhelming majority of young (military aged) males will straight up tell you their purpose in life is to see the establishment of the Palestinian state and the destruction of Israel... you arent left with a whole lot of options..

While there are exceptions.. and there are certainly Palestinians that simply want to raise their children in a safe place, free of conflict, etc.. that want to make a decent living, put food on the table, and ensure their kids have career opportunities, etc.. The sad reality is their numbers arent nearly significant enough to influence lasting peace...

The war that Israel is currently fighting wont end until Palestinian culture dramatically changes.. Israel can hammer them enough to hit the pause button.. but that's all they would be doing without selecting one of the options above.. once the Palestinans have time to recover, regroup, amass weapons and ammo again, etc.. the fight would be back on... whether the party in charge is called Hamas, Hezbollah, the Palestinian Authority, the PLO, or anything else.. doesn't matter..

 

[barryk]

It's actually a very smart move.....

The full offer is that if they self deport, the U.S.A. will pay for their plane ticket and after arriving in their home country, they will be given the $1,000 payment; and still leave them eligible to apply for LEGAL entry.

Self deportation with administration cost, airfare & $1,000 payment = $4,500 per illegal

Federal agency round up, hearing, detention & deportation cost = $17,500 per illegal

If ICE has to track you down and deport you, then you are 100% permanently bared from applying for legal entry.

I agree it is the logical answer if that is the costs. It sickens me that we have to pay anyone anything for an illegal move in the first place. However, if we take that $13,000/illegal savings and use it to pursue criminal charges against the previous administration for the national security threat they created, I could live with $1000/illegal.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

On May 3, 2025, Ukraine used Magura-7 drone boats to shoot down two Russian Su-30 jets over the Black Sea, marking the first confirmed instance of air-to-air missiles being launched from sea-based drones. The strike used U.S.-made AIM-9M Sidewinder missiles and was confirmed by Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence Directorate, with footage released just hours later.

 

[Scott CWO]

I think they are waking up to the reality that non occupation really isn't an option unless they want to be doing this again in 5-10 years..

The culture of the Palestinians is such that things arent changing without following one of a couple of different paths.. none of which are appealing..

Mass genocide (not really an option)

Elimination of Iran from the map (not really an option at the moment)

Occupation of Gaza (and potentially the West Bank).. not a great option.. but more appealing than the other two..

My firm has done a good bit of work in both Jordan and Israel directly supporting Palestinian law enforcement (before the Oct 7th attack.. the work was aligned with both Israel and the US State Departments requirements and was paid for by Israel and the USG).. As a result we had cause to interface directly with quite literally thousands of Palestinians (individuals and families).. We also did a significant amount of work in Lebanon.. our people in Beirut supported Lebanese "community oriented policing" activities.. which means they were working inside Palestinian neighborhoods, dealing with Palestinian families, etc routinely....

When a significant number of young palestinain women (perhaps most?) will straight up tell you that their purpose in life is to birth the next generation of martyrs for Hamas/Hezbollah.. and the overwhelming majority of young (military aged) males will straight up tell you their purpose in life is to see the establishment of the Palestinian state and the destruction of Israel... you arent left with a whole lot of options..

While there are exceptions.. and there are certainly Palestinians that simply want to raise their children in a safe place, free of conflict, etc.. that want to make a decent living, put food on the table, and ensure their kids have career opportunities, etc.. The sad reality is their numbers arent nearly significant enough to influence lasting peace...

The war that Israel is currently fighting wont end until Palestinian culture dramatically changes.. Israel can hammer them enough to hit the pause button.. but that's all they would be doing without selecting one of the options above.. once the Palestinans have time to recover, regroup, amass weapons and ammo again, etc.. the fight would be back on... whether the party in charge is called Hamas, Hezbollah, the Palestinian Authority, the PLO, or anything else.. doesn't matter..

I believe clearing from house to house, building to building is already underway.

 

[LivingTheDream]

On May 3, 2025, Ukraine used Magura-7 drone boats to shoot down two Russian Su-30 jets over the Black Sea, marking the first confirmed instance of air-to-air missiles being launched from sea-based drones. The strike used U.S.-made AIM-9M Sidewinder missiles and was confirmed by Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence Directorate, with footage released just hours later.

Thats unbelievable! I will say Ukraine has been shown to be extremely resourceful!

 

[Wheels]

Chang is definitely anti CCP but China’s problems may be deeper than most in the west realize.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919733110855413860

 

[Altitude sickness]

On May 3, 2025, Ukraine used Magura-7 drone boats to shoot down two Russian Su-30 jets over the Black Sea, marking the first confirmed instance of air-to-air missiles being launched from sea-based drones. The strike used U.S.-made AIM-9M Sidewinder missiles and was confirmed by Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence Directorate, with footage released just hours later.

Those are impressive but toys compared to the US naval Surface and Sub Surface drones.

 

[deewayne2003]

Chang is definitely anti CCP but China’s problems may be deeper than most in the west realize.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919733110855413860

Agreed, when the Chinese are buying 30% less rice and giving up smoking you know belts are tight.

 

[Wheels]

Trump conversation with Carney today. 31:15 mark till end is telling regarding the uphill battle Carney is dealing with.

 

[WAB]

How is this going to work?....this one to me is ridiculous

Trump tariffs: US president says foreign movies may be hit with 100% levies

The president blamed foreign-made movies for the American film industry's "very fast death".

www.bbc.com

It is ridiculous. Has anyone thought that they may be struggling because their product is crap?

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Trump conversation with Carney today. 31:15 mark till end is telling regarding the uphill battle Carney is dealing with.

I thought the beginning was the most telling where trump takes credit for carneys win. Nothing like patting yourself on the back for election interference. I’m sure his maga faithful will be along to tell me I’m wrong you, the same ones that blame election interference every time trump doesn’t win something.

 

[Altitude sickness]

Trump kept saying that it wasn’t a forgone conclusion that Canada wouldn’t eventually be part of the US. He also wouldn’t let Carney get a word in.

It’s all negotiating 101 set the table for who is leading the show.

Who enters the room first. Who offers others where to sit. Offers them something to drink. It’s all to establish dominance.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

Still can’t believe he helped carney win

 

[Wheels]

I thought the beginning was the most telling where trump takes credit for carneys win. Nothing like patting yourself on the back for election interference. I’m sure his maga faithful will be along to tell me I’m wrong you, the same ones that blame election interference every time trump doesn’t win something.

On a positive note for Poulivere, he doesn’t have to negotiate an unfavorable trade deal. Carney is probably not around in two years and Poulivere or whoever the conservative leader is can pick up the pieces.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

On a positive note for Poulivere, he doesn’t have to negotiate an unfavorable trade deal. Carney is probably not around in two years and Poulivere or whoever the conservative leader is can pick up the pieces.

Hopefully not that long a poor deal could potentially trigger a fall election with a non confidence vote. It’s unfortunate he got such a strong minority, he only needs 3 ndp to prop him up and he’s got 7 to choose from.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Trump kept saying that it wasn’t a forgone conclusion that Canada wouldn’t eventually be part of the US. He also wouldn’t let Carney get a word in.

It’s all negotiating 101 set the table for who is leading the show.

Who enters the room first. Who offers others where to sit. Offers them something to drink. It’s all to establish dominance.

If carney had any testicular fortitude he’d of demanded a reciprocal meeting in Canada.