Politics

[freefall]

I was thinking a lot of her rhetoric sounded like Obama was on the prep team. Or she hired his writers.

This.

 

[spike.t]

What utter rubbish - "thrived in debates."

Tulsi Gabbard absolutely eviscerated Cackles during the primary debates in 2020. It was a more savage beat-down than Holly Holms ending Rhonda Rousey's UFC career.

Didn't watch it but even if wanted to we only get around 3 hours power a day or night depending on when they decide to supply our part of lusaka...but she seems to have known which buttons to push, and how to side track him....seems it didn't go too well for him....but as said just reading this..

Who won the debate? Harris goads Trump into flustered performance

Trump couldn't resist Harris's personal digs at the debate which threw him off message, writes Anthony Zurcher.

www.bbc.com

 

[Altitude sickness]

Harris did not outperform Trump.

She did however outperform expectations everyone had.

I agree with RedLeg. To me She looked like a greasy, practiced one liner politician. And an immature schoolgirl at the same time.

Did she demonstrate that she is prepared for the job ? To me it showed she was prepared for a debate, not the job.

 

[Altitude sickness]

Trump is a terrible debater. many of his opponents in the primaries would’ve cleaned Harris‘s clock. There were so many layups that Trump missed.

For instance, the obvious one is he could’ve made a joke about debating three people instead of just Harris. ABC was far more biased than CNN.

 

[lwaters]

Hey this is all playing out just as Jack Van Impe predicted.

 

[Doubleplay]

IMHO she did outperform the Trump and won the debate.

How this will effect the election is to be seen.

 

[ActionBob]

How the hell do you put a value on unrealized Capital Gains?

Probably be forced to use GAAP accounting and accrual based income reporting.

That of course begs a couple more questions. Does everyone need to utilize a CPA to calculate their taxes? And not everyone is up to the required record keeping. It's time consuming and expensive.

Now if you only have a house and stocks it is probably fairly straight forward. But in farming we are still allowed cash accounting based tax reporting. That is nessasary to be able to even out the good years and the bad years because it is so cyclical and unpredictable.

And then the big question is what about losses? Will losses be recognized and tax credits issued? Will the IRS write checks to reimburse for unrealized losses?

It's a very difficult road to go down. I hope it is all just rhetoric to sound like she is putting the screws to the wealthy. But the people who will be hurt the most will be the common middle class investors with invested nest eggs.

What needs to be realized is that Harris like Obama does not believe the minions should have wealth. They should live and die pay check to pay check with the government "taking care" of them.

The her desire to meddle in food prices will further create the communist state where the government controls that as well. Take a good look at how government run farms had done in the old Soviet Union. We got a preview of the empty shelves during Covid-19. That will be the norm.

When Harris says she still has "more work to do" she means more taxes, more regulations, more and bigger government, more handouts, more inflation.

When Obama talked about "fundamentally changing America" he meant towards Socialism and ultimately Communism. When these Democrats talk about more to do and finishing the job they started.... that is what they are telling us.

 

[BSO Dave]

IMHO she did outperform the Trump and won the debate.

My honest assessment is that she outperformed the expectations that most sane, lucid people placed upon her (myself included) ... She was extremely well rehearsed in hitting her talking points and setting the bait, which unfortunately, Trump could not resist on a couple of occasions. Of course, the Harris supporters and Trump haters are going to categorize this as a "win" for her based solely on the fact that she did not present as the nonsensical, cackling jackass that her supporters feared and most of us expected...

Not to make excuses, but as expected, Trump was debating 3 people in this debate. The moderators were terribly biased, which kept Trump on the defense much more that he would have liked. However, on the issues themselves, she had no record to tout or definitive policy to promote as expected... She either lied or deflected, and with the help of the moderators, she controlled more of the conversation that she should have. That put Trump on the defense more than he would have liked and that caused him to miss a few easy lay ups that I'm sure he would like to have back... He did manage to hit her with a few big shots, but I believe he could have been sharper overall...

The main goal of the Harris team for this debate was to have her put on a "performance" hoping to fool some low-information voters that are still undecided at this point... I'm sure they are happy with what she did last night, but at the end of the day, gasoline, groceries, and rent are still at historic highs, she has to own that... The reality is that she still has no explanation for it or a realistic plan to fix it... That's not going to change between now and November... Let's see what the polls say in the coming weeks...

 

[Red Leg]

If I may switch gears a bit, the Pentagon, like lower Manhattan, was a rough place to be 23 years ago. My XO walked into my office to report the second aircraft had hit the second tower, and I had just spoken to Jack Keane who was letting me know that the Army was fully manning the operations center. I was about to call the staff leads of the Senate and House Armed Service Committees to inform them that our assessment was that this was obviously a terrorist event and that we would pass along information as we had it. At that moment the AA flight from Dulles hit the Pentagon. It was around the corner from my legislative liaison team, and we were fortunate to only suffer only from falling ceiling tiles and dense smoke. The Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel and his folks were struck directly. Many were close colleagues.

We helped people out of that wing of the building for the next several hours. Many were horribly burned.

By late afternoon, we had a pretty good understanding of what happened and any potential other threats. At Jack Keane's request, I took a young major from the G2 over to the Hill around dusk to brief Trent Lott and the rest of the House and Senate leadership about what we knew. They had gathered in a conference room in the Capitol Police headquarters building. In typical Donald Rumsfeld fashion, he had refused to consult with the Congressional Leadership. They had then contacted General Keane who was the Army Vice Chief at that time.

It was fascinating to watch the Congressional Leadership, without a hint of political bias, go through the decision process to insure the government would be open for business the next day.

Cell and landline communications were a mess most of the day. One of my team finally was able to get through to his spouse around mid-afternoon who was then able to let my spouse know that we were fine.

As I say, it was an unpleasant day.

 

[Lone Star Bluegrass]

Reuters: twice as many undecided voters breaking for Trump over Harris after watching the debate.

Some undecided voters not convinced by Harris after debate with Trump - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/so...by-harris-after-debate-with-trump-2024-09-11/

 

[Ed Lally]

Why is everyone calling this a DEBATE. That was not a debate, it was a Q&A lead by persons with a dog in the fight. The one question not asked nor answered: "Who has and who is and who will be until Jan 2025, running the country??"

 

[cls]

If I may switch gears a bit, the Pentagon, like lower Manhattan, was a rough place to be 23 years ago. My XO walked into my office to report the second aircraft had hit the second tower, and I had just spoken to Jack Keane who was letting me know that the Army was fully manning the operations center. I was about to call the staff leads of the Senate and House Armed Service Committees to inform them that our assessment was that this was obviously a terrorist event and that we would pass along information as we had it. At that moment the AA flight from Dulles hit the Pentagon. It was around the corner from my legislative liaison team, and we were fortunate to only suffer only from falling ceiling tiles and dense smoke. The Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel and his folks were struck directly. Many were close colleagues.

We helped people out of that wing of the building for the next several hours. Many were horribly burned.

By late afternoon, we had a pretty good understanding of what happened and any potential other threats. At Jack Keane's request, I took a young major from the G2 over to the Hill around dusk to brief Trent Lott and the rest of the House and Senate leadership about what we knew. They had gathered in a conference room in the Capitol Police headquarters building. In typical Donald Rumsfeld fashion, he had refused to consult with the Congressional Leadership. They had then contacted General Keane who was the Army Vice Chief at that time.

It was fascinating to watch the Congressional Leadership, without a hint of political bias, go through the decision process to insure the government would be open for business the next day.

Cell and landline communications were a mess most of the day. One of my team finally was able to get through to his spouse around mid-afternoon who was then able to let my spouse know that we were fine.

As I say, it was an unpleasant day.

How soon we forget, thank you for the reminder.

 

[Areaonereal]

Her facial contortions remind me of 8 year old school girls conversations over whose dress is prettier.

 

[Brent in Az]

Trump should know better than to engage in a deck that is stacked highly against him. The bias and setup by these hack moderators was painfully apparent

 

[DillonG]

I’m a Trump fan, and yes, he did fail at the debate. Obviously, he has superior policies and vision for the U.S. He continuously took the cheap bait that Harris threw around. He did not counter effectively. His final statement should have been his opening statement. He should’ve pointed out how she has taken endorsements from the Cheney family. He should have hammered the abuse of the DOJ not just about himself. I can continue, but my point is made.

Yes, Republicans have excuses. ABC is obviously in the back pocket of the DNC. Harris was never pushed when she lied by moderators. Cheap attacks were thrown at Trump and not Harris.

None of this truly matters now. The Harris campaign wants another debate, as they stated moments after coverage ended last night. Trump should advocate for one in 2 weeks. Trump should continue rallying, find better debate prep consultants, and accept a debate with moderators outside the MSM. I know this wont happen, but it is the intelligent move.

 

[Lone Star Bluegrass]

If I may switch gears a bit, the Pentagon, like lower Manhattan, was a rough place to be 23 years ago. My XO walked into my office to report the second aircraft had hit the second tower, and I had just spoken to Jack Keane who was letting me know that the Army was fully manning the operations center. I was about to call the staff leads of the Senate and House Armed Service Committees to inform them that our assessment was that this was obviously a terrorist event and that we would pass along information as we had it. At that moment the AA flight from Dulles hit the Pentagon. It was around the corner from my legislative liaison team, and we were fortunate to only suffer only from falling ceiling tiles and dense smoke. The Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel and his folks were struck directly. Many were close colleagues.

We helped people out of that wing of the building for the next several hours. Many were horribly burned.

By late afternoon, we had a pretty good understanding of what happened and any potential other threats. At Jack Keane's request, I took a young major from the G2 over to the Hill around dusk to brief Trent Lott and the rest of the House and Senate leadership about what we knew. They had gathered in a conference room in the Capitol Police headquarters building. In typical Donald Rumsfeld fashion, he had refused to consult with the Congressional Leadership. They had then contacted General Keane who was the Army Vice Chief at that time.

It was fascinating to watch the Congressional Leadership, without a hint of political bias, go through the decision process to insure the government would be open for business the next day.

Cell and landline communications were a mess most of the day. One of my team finally was able to get through to his spouse around mid-afternoon who was then able to let my spouse know that we were fine.

As I say, it was an unpleasant day.

Thank you for sharing. You should consider recording your memories from that day in detail (privately if you prefer) for the future generations in your family.

 

[jeanes]

My opinion, for what its worth, is forget what the candidates say. Look at what they do or have done. Words are cheap, actions count.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

 

[Scott CWO]

If I may switch gears a bit, the Pentagon, like lower Manhattan, was a rough place to be 23 years ago. My XO walked into my office to report the second aircraft had hit the second tower, and I had just spoken to Jack Keane who was letting me know that the Army was fully manning the operations center. I was about to call the staff leads of the Senate and House Armed Service Committees to inform them that our assessment was that this was obviously a terrorist event and that we would pass along information as we had it. At that moment the AA flight from Dulles hit the Pentagon. It was around the corner from my legislative liaison team, and we were fortunate to only suffer only from falling ceiling tiles and dense smoke. The Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel and his folks were struck directly. Many were close colleagues.

We helped people out of that wing of the building for the next several hours. Many were horribly burned.

By late afternoon, we had a pretty good understanding of what happened and any potential other threats. At Jack Keane's request, I took a young major from the G2 over to the Hill around dusk to brief Trent Lott and the rest of the House and Senate leadership about what we knew. They had gathered in a conference room in the Capitol Police headquarters building. In typical Donald Rumsfeld fashion, he had refused to consult with the Congressional Leadership. They had then contacted General Keane who was the Army Vice Chief at that time.

It was fascinating to watch the Congressional Leadership, without a hint of political bias, go through the decision process to insure the government would be open for business the next day.

Cell and landline communications were a mess most of the day. One of my team finally was able to get through to his spouse around mid-afternoon who was then able to let my spouse know that we were fine.

As I say, it was an unpleasant day.

I’m very sorry about your colleagues and what you all and the Pentagon went through that day and the aftermath.

The Pentagon and the people that work there are amazing. About eleven and a half years after 9/11, Wendy, our twins and I, after background checks, were given a private tour of the Pentagon by a Colonel in JSOC. It was the highlight of our spring break trip to Washington, DC for us and our high school aged twins. I am convinced that it helped permanently shape the twins and their patriotic beliefs and respect for the USA and our military. The Colonel spent a lot of time showing us some of the areas that were rebuilt after 9/11. It is truly a remarkable place and all the people we met were great.

To anyone reading this, consider taking your kids and grandchildren to Washington for their spring break week when they are old enough (Jr High and HS) to absorb the history and significance of not only the Pentagon, but also all the monuments and museums. Our kids were already patriotic and Republican leaning but our trip cemented it for life for them. With everything out there in our liberal education system, it’s incredibly important to offset all of it by talking to your kids and showing them things like Washington, DC and the Pentagon. You might not get a private tour of the Pentagon unless you know someone working there but the Pentagon does offer a limited tour for tourists.

 

[Newboomer]

Trump should know better than to engage in a deck that is stacked highly against him. The bias and setup by these hack moderators was painfully apparent

Always helps when the enemy has all the questions and answers well in advance.