Politics

[Doubleplay]

I'm not sure we can go as far as personally blaming someone for the actions of their government. I disagree with the a lot of actions our government takes, and with Joe and Trump likely being 2024 nominees not sure I want to be blamed for that as well.

I feel the same.
They are two senile old man.
Is this all we can come up with?
How sad it is to vote for the lesser evil regardless of the government.

 

[mark-hunter]

Optional Biden or Trump?
Amazing!
Quo vadis America?

 

[Zambezi]

There's a word used for those who take money for sexual favors...hmmm if I could just remember what it is

"Democrat"

 

[Red Leg]

I'm not sure we can go as far as personally blaming someone for the actions of their government. I disagree with the a lot of actions our government takes, and with Joe and Trump likely being 2024 nominees not sure I want to be blamed for that as well.

Oh, I think Thomas Jefferson had it exactly correct - "The government you elect is the government you deserve." Like everything he wrote, it was well considered and he deliberately chose to use the second person singular rather than a collective pronoun. He was pointing that finger at me just as surely as any other citizen of this country.

Joseph de Maistre believed the same was true of every government - "Every country has the government it deserves."

I'll use the collective. Look at this thread of ours. It is a place where seemingly angry older men come to complain about their government and culture. We are adept at coming up with not particularly clever nicknames for democrats or Biden; some of us are seemingly obsessed by communists: we post sometimes funny memes and sometimes juvenile ones; and we argue endlessly. But how many of us are actually doing anything about situation? Who last attended a city counsel meeting or participated in a voter registration drive or volunteered even a few hours to support a particular campaign? Heck how many of us even support a SCI legislative initiative by engaging our congressional delegation?

I am sure some of us do, but I am equally sure, most of us do not.

And yes, this absolutely applies to Russia as much as the US or any other country. The Russian people have chosen, primarily through apathy, to be governed by the equivalent of a bureaucratic mafia ruled by a Don in the Kremlin. They have allowed that mafia to steal their future posterity for their personal enrichment and to plunge them into a useless war that to date has achieved the exact opposite of the goals established for the Special Military Operation. The question is how long will the Russian people tolerate this.

 

[WAB]

Oh, I think Thomas Jefferson had it exactly correct - "The government you elect is the government you deserve." Like everything he wrote, it was well considered and he deliberately chose to use the second person singular rather than a collective pronoun. He was pointing that finger at me just as surely as any other citizen of this country.

Joseph de Maistre believed the same was true of every government - "Every country has the government it deserves."

I'll use the collective. Look at this thread of ours. It is a place where seemingly angry older men come to complain about their government and culture. We are adept at coming up with not particularly clever nicknames for democrats or Biden; some of us are seemingly obsessed by communists: we post sometimes funny memes and sometimes juvenile ones; and we argue endlessly. But how many of us are actually doing anything about situation? Who last attended a city counsel meeting or participated in a voter registration drive or volunteered even a few hours to support a particular campaign? Heck how many of us even support a SCI legislative initiative by engaging our congressional delegation?

I am sure some of us do, but I am equally sure, most of us do not.

And yes, this absolutely applies to Russia as much as the US or any other country. The Russian people have chosen, primarily through apathy, to be governed by the equivalent of a bureaucratic mafia ruled by a Don in the Kremlin. They have allowed that mafia to steal their future posterity for their personal enrichment and to plunge them into a useless war that to date has achieved the exact opposite of the goals established for the Special Military Operation. The question is how long will the Russian people tolerate this.

While I agree with most of your point, I suspect fear has much to do with the lack of protest of the Russian government’s actions as anything. The way Putin came down on the anti-war protestors sent a pretty strong message. It seems that if you challenge Putin, there are only two possible outcomes, succeed or die.

 

[cpr0312]

 

[Red Leg]

While I agree with most of your point, I suspect fear has much to do with the lack of protest of the Russian government’s actions as anything. The way Putin came down on the anti-war protestors sent a pretty strong message. It seems that if you challenge Putin, there are only two possible outcomes, succeed or die.

That is absolutely true. But Putin didn’t assume power on 22 Feb 2022, and he and his ilk will never leave power until the Russian people take it back.

 

[LivingTheDream]

That is absolutely true. But Putin didn’t assume power on 22 Feb 2022, and he and his ilk will never leave power until the Russian people take it back.

To your point, they did elect him back after he was out. They wanted a strong man to bring back the glory days of USSR...

 

[jpr9954]

To your point, they did elect him back after he was out. They wanted a strong man to bring back the glory days of USSR...

Dmitry Medvedev was always a place holder for Putin until he could run again after his first two terms. The power, if not the office, remained with Putin.

It is like now in the USA with Biden as president. Does he really make the decisions or it is just Obama's third term?

 

[sestoppelman]

While our southern border is under a literal invasion from at least 150 countries, mostly made up of young single men, terrorists, rapists, thieves, and ner do wells, Zelensky gets the red carpet treatment, more money from Joe, and America gets the middle finger salute!!

If Joe Biden paid half as much attention to protecting AMERICAN borders as he does Ukrainian borders, I might see the point, but he doesnt give a fat rats ass about OUR borders, so I cant get on board.

The more Joe destroys America and he absolutely is, the less I care about Ukraine or any other country!

If he wont take care of his own, why should we care about the others? Rhetorical question to some of you I realize.

Even if I was wholly on board with the Ukraine policy, I would not be able to separate our disastrous domestic policy from it, to the point where I could get behind him in support, and just say oh well as long as he supports Ukraine, I support him.

Some can, I cannot.

 

[jpr9954]

"Democrat"

From the Daily Wire:

"Correspondence viewed by The Daily Wire shows the Associated Press was tipped off about the pornographic content on September 5, but chose not to do anything with the story. It did, however, make Gibson aware of the videos, which she appears to have had taken down in the days after the Associated Press alerted her that they had been discovered."

It looks like the Associated Press was more interested in protecting a Democrat than in reporting the news. BTW the article link suggests that she could be charged with prostitution under VA state law not that the Democrat state's atty for Richmond will do that.

 

[Boyd Brooks]

 

[fourfive8]

I see Zelensky is back on another begging tour. And he’s picked up on a jingle phrase from the Dem playbook, “Give me more money to save democracy”.

 

[Doug3006]

I see Zelensky is back on another begging tour. And he’s picked up on a jingle phrase from the Dem playbook, “Give me more money to save democracy”.

So do you think we should cutoff further aid and by doing so help Russia win?

 

[Mekaniks]

I see Zelensky is back on another begging tour. And he’s picked up on a jingle phrase from the Dem playbook, “Give me more money to save democracy”.

Looks like he is courting private investors. Wall Street, fund manager folks....

 

[Boyd Brooks]

 

[Boyd Brooks]

 

[Hunt anything]

And the climate

I see Zelensky is back on another begging tour. And he’s picked up on a jingle phrase from the Dem playbook, “Give me more money to save democracy”.

 

[sestoppelman]

Our worthless, useless brain dead president on the job, making friends all over the world. FFS!!!!

MSN

 

[Ray B]

Our worthless,

I disagree- Biden is worse than worthless.
Worth less means he has zero worth.
Biden's worth is actually a large negative number. I'm not sure what word in the English language would be used to describe someone who would need a couple lifetimes of worth just to get to a net zero.