Partition lack of love?

[Scott CWO]

Hi Scott,

Diferent experiences, of course. Here we see the NP as once of the Best bullets. The commentaries I am seen here about the N. Partition really surpriced me!
Seems we are talking about diferent things... Nosler Partitions are what they are not by marketing, by God!!!

It’s just physics. The front of the NP bullet disappears and the base drives forward but does not expand very much. A Swift AFrame does not do that. Either does a Barnes. AFrame and Barnes expand into a nice mushroom while the NP base just deforms. It doesn’t get as wide and therefore produce as wide of a wound channel. Sure the NP will kill game but so will an arrow. That doesn’t mean an arrow is as good as an AFrame or Barnes. NP should not be used on dangerous game.

 

[Scott CWO]

It’s just physics. The fromt of a NP disappears while the base continues penetrating but without mushrooming much. This creates a narrower wound channel. An AFrame or Barnes TSX mushrooms and creates a wider wound channel. A wider wound channel translates to more internal damage in the body cavity. All bullets will kill. To each his own.

 

[Dr Ray]

I have found that in many cases it’s not the Bullet that’s the problem but poor shooting. For example rifles not sighted in properly; shooter pulls trigger because he/she is recoil shy; shooting at angles etc that are going to produce wounded animals that aren’t hit in a proper place and require hours of tracking. I have found that by not knowing the anatomy of the animal is a problem in that the bullet hits a non-vital area and this results in wounds etc and the animal runs off.
Another problem is that the shooter is all hyped up and doesn’t take enough time to ensure that the bullet placement will be into a vital spot. I’ve done that myself so I speak from experience.
Nosler Bullets - I have used solid base and partitions over the years. I think my points above may be more cause than Bullets regarding
Dramas etc.
personally I like Bullets to exit after spending most of their energy in the target. This ensures (usually) a blood trail to follow.
I have also experienced in a 22/250 that firing inferior Bullets can be a problem because of the velocity. I did some target shooting and at 100 yards the Bullets were producing reasonable groups. At 200 yards - nothing - just vaporized.
As a bit of fun many years ago I loaded 40 grain hornet Bullets from memory into a 222 Remington. At night using a spotlight I could see the red glow on the base of the Bullets as they traveled and smoke pouring off them. I think I used Reloder 7 but as far as the powder weight I simply cannot recall.
Another young and experimental me loaded 150 grain flat nose Bullets made for the 30/30 into my 30/06 and drive them hard. When they hit something reasonably soft they simply penetrated a little and blew up.
I think it was my wasted youth!

 

[Jerry D]

I shoot a 200grain Nosler Partition at 2650 FPS out of my 30-06. It is a one-moa round with a BC of approx 490. This round is still carrying over 1200 lbs of energy at 600 yards.
Most of the experienced hunters I know still consider the partition a stone-cold-killer.
The partition still performs nicely all the way down to around 1800 FPS, where some of today’s boutique darling bullets have a much narrower band of speed which they give outstanding results in.
I will stop using the 200gn partition when I see something more compelling to me.

 

[Dr Ray]

I agree with Jerry D.

 

[Clodo Ferreira]

Of course, Jerry! I said this before: If Nosler Partition didn't exist, they should be invented ! And in this case I am convinced they would be " the last word in hunting bullets" combining the best in it.
There are no such thing as a PERFECT BULLET for everithing in all situation. And I like very much the Barnes TTSX as a very good all around bullet. But the good old NP is hard to beat in many, many situations...!

 

[crs]

There is a post on this forum Now where a Nosler Partition PP does a great job Here is the link:
https://www.africahunting.com/threads/partitions-for-dangerous-game.67359/#post-874625

Enjoy!

 

[Scott CWO]

A great marketing job by Nosler to capture significant market share with a poor product, especially for DG. Okay for smaller PG.

 

[PerH]

And not to forget when NP was altered either . I got hooked on starting to dig through what,why etc when i saw in a test in a Norwegian magazine from mid 90s. ( i got that magazine ca 07)

A .375 HH and ,378 Wby 300 grain NP were almost identical mushroomed in recovered bullet, and the unhot one looked much different than later ones i saw. Of different calibers ,then nicknamed " splinterbomben ", ie same hideous nickname as given to some German bullets back then.

 

[Firebird]

Forgive me for not reading the entire thread-it’s an old and tired topic. What I can’t for the life of me figure out is why nosler never bothered to just bond the damn partition! Sell the old, original version for those who love it and a newer cooler bonded version for everybody else. . .I loved the comment about 1940 tech-powders have changed too-we can get amazing performance from the right combination of components these days. Just a thought

 

[Sarg]

Some one did & called it a A Frame, they are much better on the big stuff .

The NP were the one in the old days & still good for some jobs, I shot a Leopard I wanted to stop right there & they worked great.

The Older turned ones were better I think also, might not have been as accurate in small calibers but nice in the bigger bullets.