Greetings sir! We've actually "met" through others on the site if you will. Your experience and quests are flat amazing.
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| Field of View @ 100 yd or m | 1x: 96.1 ft/32.0 m8x: 13.1 ft/4.4 m |
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Well.Greetings sir! We've actually "met" through others on the site if you will. Your experience and quests are flat amazing.
As I understand it, 1 mil at 100 yards = 3.6 inches. The illuminated circle you see in the reticle image from NF's webpage has a radius of 2 mils at 100 yards. So I do stand corrected, was a late night working up the initial report out. With a diameter of 4 mils, we get 4 x 3.6 inches = 14.4 inches at 100 yards, as you noted ~ 15 MOA @ 100 yards. Thank you for the catch, the questions, and corrections by all means.
At low power you literally have a circle, not a red dot. Totally concur WRT a relatively large diameter red dot obscuring the target. Running it up to 8 power with the F1 reticle gets you into the "red dot" territory on a T-post.
Low end and high end magnification can be seen here toggling between the two settings:
FC-DMx - Nightforce Optics
The FC-DMx reticle is an evolution of the FC-DM reticle perfect for Military/Law Enforcement, Competition or hunting.
I am basically totally new to the African safari hunting world, and need to be thinking ~ 50 yards, not 250. With that circle at low power transposed over the kill zone of a buffalo, if I am true and my rifle shoots true as well, I've got a solid hit. No math involved. And as previously noted, I won't be milling anything with this platform. It's more a matter of keep it simple stupid (me in this case), and the secondary reason I like this solution for this application. The primary reason being abject reliability in so much as rifle optics are concerned.
And if I understand your question about 4x power perceived size, the following is listed as FOV low / high power:
Field of View @ 100 yd or m 1x: 96.1 ft/32.0 m8x: 13.1 ft/4.4 m
Red circle surrounding red zone of target cleared hot and let her eat.
The math can overwhelm the conversation sometimes.
Hopefully that helps clear up my initial posting.
Well Tex, I have numerous rifles with illuminated scopes to include two of my .375s, a .404, and 500/416. I also spent a long time in the military. I know what a red dot is, and have significant experience using them. The largest I employ, on the 500/416 and the DDM4 that I have to repel borders at living room range, is two mils and they are too large. Like many of their scopes, NF can't seem to shake their tactical roots. In addition to the overly large dot, all of those ridiculous indices that emerge as the power on the OP's scope is increased simply adds clutter to a rifle that will likely never be fired at anything farther than 200 meters. For me personally, it adds far too much clutter for any normal hunting application, much less Africa.
Hi there sir! And thank you for your post. A somewhat involved process paid off for sure.
IOW AHF AARs. TY My Dad (Army) used to leave notes for his 3 boys on the 'fridge. ALL acronyms and no names (Son #1 instructions, Son #2, etc. We had to learn HIS lingo. He referred to fast food as MRE.) LOL Priceless! RIP Dad!!! In an ideal world, he'd be 88 this month.
Greetings!Absolutely beautiful gun! Qs: What does the reticle look like should the battery die? I opted for the Trijicon 1-6 as it requires NO batteries and the illuminated German #4 reticle with much smaller dot is also simple and perfect for typical DG shots at 100 or less yards (also printed 3-shots touching at 100 yds, 5 shots <1" with a heavy-recoiling DG 416.) I see NF as a military-style scope(s)-most of the lower power 1-4,5,or 6 reticles are batt-operated and designed for ARs, so I personally wouldn't chuck one on a fine AG rifle. (I know Triji was originally military contractor, too, but the 1-6s are perfect for DG+) There are actually low power scopes out there where the entire reticle disappears if the batt dies, and that's a no-no for DG hunting. 'Just my $1K.
That's a damned riot right there!!! Hilarious, thanks.
I too believe the red dot is too large for hunting purposes (whether farther shots at PG or in your face DG.) Long ago, I put one of Aimpoint's big dot scopes (hunting pistols) on a woodchuck (as I'd test out everything in the field on safe, target-rich environments (and it was literally a blast.) On this occasion, the dot (set on its largest, brightest setting) was wider than the 4" chuck and i gasped (that'd be a miss and that miss would've been bad with a bouncing up/down buff head or other biting game!) The aimpoints had an adjustment for the reticle dot size....I figured it out, and then it worked! Most are simply brightness settings now, not dot size, so you have what you've gotten! I have an aversion to reticle styles that are too busy for DG purposes...the focus should literally be on the aiming point. Time doesn't always allow, but at close range, there's nothing better than "in a fight, front (iron) sight! That's the concept of what you're saying with the outer ring, but the dot should be small, yet visible. Leupold made a WONDERFUL reticle years back-illuminated (black when off) 1' circle at 100 yds with a 1 mil red dot in the center (1-5x 20mm). It is absolutely PHENOMENAL for moving game ('have it on a short Rem Pump 06, but it'd be great on a DG rifle as well!) Sadly, I had it slung around my back on a long tractor ride last deer season and the top/battery cap must've vibrated off on some mile-marker of logging roads.
I'll contact L, but 'don't have high hopes as it's probably 20-25 y/o now. Good luck and let us know how it works out. Q: Do you work for NF in any capacity?
