Organization and question about scope zeros

[NoNo94]

Hi all, I’ve been recently organizing and cataloging my firearms. I made a custom sheet with all pertinent info, SN , cal, price etc for my guns. The issue I have now is trying to remember my guns zeros. Each firearm is zeroed at different heights, with suppressors/sometimes without, I switch ammo types etc. Does anyone know of a shooting logbook or sheets where you can record zero distance, heights, mounts, temp etc? Thank you!

 

[Safari Dave]

I simply record everything into a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet and update it with all pertinent information, each time I go to the range.

I can attach my "example", if there is enough interest...

 

[NoNo94]

I’m interested in seeing one of your log sheets. Trying to figure out a good format, also thinking of putting a small dry erase board on the safe with each guns zero, and what ammo I have it sighted in with. But seems a little excessive.

 

[Safari Dave]

I can't figure out how to upload an Excel spreadsheet

Date	Rifle	Cartridge	Bullet	Point of Impact	Group	Notes
Marlin 22 Mag	.22 WMR	Rem. 40g PSP	zero @ 100yds	1"
Weatherby Vanguard - 300 Win Mag	.300 WM	Federal Prem. 200g Sierra Gameking BTSP	1" high @ 100 yds	2"	Need to Clean
Ruger M77 338 w/ scope	.338 Win	250g Silvertips	2" high, 2" left @ 100 yds
Remington Model Seven - 260 Rem	.260 Rem	140g Core Lokt - MR	1/2" left, 1/2" low @ 100 yds	>1"	Nikon 4X
CZ 223 Rifle	.223 Rem	PMC Bronze 55g FMJ	1" high @ 100 yds	<1"	Doesn't seem to shoot heavy bullets well
Remington 700 ADL - 30/06 Synthetic- Jackson's	.30/06	150g Rem Core-Lokt	2" high at 100 yds
Remington 700 Sendero - 300 Win Mag	.300 Win Mag	Federal Prem. 190g Sierra Matchking BTSP	1 3/4" low, 3/4" left @ 200 yds	<0.5 MOA
Ruger American Predator - 308 Win	.308 Win	150g Rem Core-Lokt	1/2" high, 1/4" left @ 100 yds
Remington ADL synthetic - 270 Winchester	.270 Win	PMC 130g XLC-HP	1" high, 1/4 left @ 100 yds
Remington Mountain Rifle M700 - 260 Remington	.260 Rem	Remington 120g Nosler Ballistic Tip	1 1/2" high @ 100 yds
Ruger M77 RSI - 243	.243 Win	Fed 100g psp	2" low, @ 100yds - hot barrel
Browning FN Safari - 30/06	.30/06	Rem 150g Core Lokt	2" high @ 100 yds	?	iron sights
Weatherby MV (jap) - 257 Weatherby Mag	.257 Wby Mag	100g WBY Spitzer	1.75" high, 0.5" Right @ 100 yds	1"
Winchester post 64 series Model 70 - 375 H&H w/scope	.375 H&H	Win. - 300g FMJ - (newest boxes)	1" high @ 100 yds - estimate	scoped adjusted for estimated POI
CZ 452 - 22LR	.22 LR	Federal Gold Medal HV	zero @ 212 yds	4"	scope is adjusted frequently

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The information is in the wrong column.


But, it's like this.

 

[Tra3]

this makes me wonder, am I the only guy who zeros all rifles at 100 yards? (Except a .22lr)

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Open the spreadsheet on your PC and either do a print screen or take whatever you have to outline and snag a copy (picture) of it and paste it in this thread.

 

[Safari Dave]

A little better...

Date	Rifle	Cartridge	Bullet	Point of Impact	Group	Notes
Marlin 22 Mag	.22 WMR	Rem. 40g PSP	zero @ 100yds	1"
Weatherby Vanguard - 300 Win Mag	.300 WM	Federal Prem. 200g Sierra Gameking BTSP	1" high @ 100 yds	2"	Need to Clean
Ruger M77 338 w/ scope	.338 Win	250g Silvertips	2" high, 2" left @ 100 yds
Remington Model Seven - 260 Rem	.260 Rem	140g Core Lokt - MR	1/2" left, 1/2" low @ 100 yds	>1"	Nikon 4X
CZ 223 Rifle	.223 Rem	PMC Bronze 55g FMJ	1" high @ 100 yds	<1"	Doesn't seem to shoot heavy bullets well
Remington 700 ADL - 30/06 Synthetic- Jackson's	.30/06	150g Rem Core-Lokt	2" high at 100 yds
Remington 700 Sendero - 300 Win Mag	.300 Win Mag	Federal Prem. 190g Sierra Matchking BTSP	1 3/4" low, 3/4" left @ 200 yds	<0.5 MOA
Ruger American Predator - 308 Win	.308 Win	150g Rem Core-Lokt	1/2" high, 1/4" left @ 100 yds
Remington ADL synthetic - 270 Winchester	.270 Win	PMC 130g XLC-HP	1" high, 1/4 left @ 100 yds
Remington Mountain Rifle M700 - 260 Remington	.260 Rem	Remington 120g Nosler Ballistic Tip	1 1/2" high @ 100 yds
Ruger M77 RSI - 243	.243 Win	Fed 100g psp	2" low, @ 100yds - hot barrel
Browning FN Safari - 30/06	.30/06	Rem 150g Core Lokt	2" high @ 100 yds	?	iron sights
Weatherby MV (jap) - 257 Weatherby Mag	.257 Wby Mag	100g WBY Spitzer	1.75" high, 0.5" Right @ 100 yds	1"
Winchester post 64 series Model 70 - 375 H&H w/scope	.375 H&H	Win. - 300g FMJ - (newest boxes)	1" high @ 100 yds - estimate	scoped adjusted for estimated POI
CZ 452 - 22LR	.22 LR	Federal Gold Medal HV	zero @ 212 yds	4"	scope is adjusted frequently
WInchester pre-64 action (new) Model 70 - 375 H&H w/o scope	.375 H&H	Priv Part - 300g soft points	2" left at 40 yards	Needs sighting in
Sako 30/06	.30/06	150g Rem Core-Lokt	1 1/4" high, 1/2" right @ 100 yds	?	last shot was with hot barrel
Remington 700 BDL SS - 30/06	.30/06	150g Hornady American Whitetail	2.5" high, 3/4" Right @ 100yds
Anshultz 1416	.22 LR	Lapua Center-X	zero @ 212 yds	4"	Adjusted Frequently
Marlin 1894	.38 Special	Winchester FMJ	3" left at 25 yards
Kimber 84 Hunter - 6.5 Creedmore	6.5 CM	Nosler Trophy Grade 140g Partitions	2" High, @ 100 yds	0.5"	Winchester 129g is 0" high, 2 1/2" right, Federal Premium 140g Nosler Accubond is 1 1/2" high

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[Tra3]

@Safari Dave I feel like a newbie asking some of these questions, but I want to understand more of this.
When you finish a range session with a rifle, if it is 2” right, are you adjusting it to shoot zero (bullseye) or are you leaving it at 2” right and waiting for the next range session to see if the range weather condition caused the shift?
Do you normally end a range session with a goal of having the rifle right at zero?
If you have a box of ammo that groups poorly, do you record it, but still use the ammo later?
Are you generally sighting in for Max point blank range or just a little high at 100 to be at zero at 150?

I ask these questions as I’m always curious to learn new methods. I try and run all rifles at 100 yrd zero. With my rifles, when the are on the bullseye on one day, I expect them to be very close to the same the next range trip.

 

[NoNo94]

Thank you Safari Dave, that’s exactly what I was trying to figure out.

 

[Safari Dave]

@Safari Dave I feel like a newbie asking some of these questions, but I want to understand more of this.
When you finish a range session with a rifle, if it is 2” right, are you adjusting it to shoot zero (bullseye) or are you leaving it at 2” right and waiting for the next range session to see if the range weather condition caused the shift?
Do you normally end a range session with a goal of having the rifle right at zero?
If you have a box of ammo that groups poorly, do you record it, but still use the ammo later?
Are you generally sighting in for Max point blank range or just a little high at 100 to be at zero at 150?

I ask these questions as I’m always curious to learn new methods. I try and run all rifles at 100 yrd zero. With my rifles, when the are on the bullseye on one day, I expect them to be very close to the same the next range trip




1. If I leave the range with the rifle shooting 2" right, I just leave it until the next session. (maybe I run out of ammo, maybe the ammo wasn't doing what I expected, maybe the weather, etc. It gives me a starting point for the next time, but also tells me where to aim, just in case I have to use the rifle).

2. Typically the goal is to leave the range with the rifle sighted in. However, it might be that I overestimated the time I would have, took too many rifles, found the accuracy of the ammo lacking, etc.

3. If I have ammo that doesn't shoot well in a particular rifle, I record the fact on another spreadsheet (This spreadsheet contains rifle specific information (serial number, cost, estimated value, date acquired, where I purchased the gun, scope, rings, number of spare magazines, ammo that shoots well, ammo that doesn't, etc.)).

4. I usually shoot on a 100 yard range, but create "dope" based on published info. (I would try to zero a .30-30 @ 100 yards, I might want my .300 Magnum to be 2" high at 100 yards). When given the opportunity, I shoot the rifle at the actual desired range, then record the results.



I will use a calculator like this, to get an idea of where the approximate POI will be at distance:

ShootersCalculator.com | Ballistic Trajectory Calculator

Calculates the ballistic trajectory of a bullet fired from a rifle, handgun or other firearm. Produces a ballistic trajectory chart and table that shows the drop, velocity, kinetic energy, windage, and trajectory of a bullet.

shooterscalculator.com

They are never exactly right, but they sure beat just guessing.