Non-American ammo manufactures that produce big bore ammo?

[Pondoro]

America tried protectionism before...did not work then..

McKinley Tariff - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[AZDAVE]

How about you take the political stuff and move it to the political part of the forum please.

 

[503]

Weather we like it or not, right now is the "good ol days." I buy some ammo every month no matter what, like contributing to my roth ira. I basically have a standing order with Midway for shotgun shells.

If they stopped making ammo tomorrow I could hunt as usual for the next 25 years. A little bit at a time adds up fast.

Cheers

503

 

[Hunter-Habib]

Norma
Sologne
Labor Fur Ballistik
RWS (up to .375 and only soft points)
PPU (up to .375 but ammunition is extremely unreliable for dangerous game hunting)

Norma and Sologne use American bullets (Norma uses Barnes Banded Solids and Sologne uses a lot of Hornady & Sierra & Nosler bullets). So I think that these two companies might not be able to source bullets if there’s any sort of falling out with the US.

 

[Northern Shooter]

Norma
Sologne
Labor Fur Ballistik
RWS (up to .375 and only soft points)
PPU (up to .375 but ammunition is extremely unreliable for dangerous game hunting)

Norma and Sologne use American bullets (Norma uses Barnes Banded Solids and Sologne uses a lot of Hornady & Sierra & Nosler bullets). So I think that these two companies might not be able to source bullets if there’s any sort of falling out with the US.

Of those, Norma and PPU seem to be the only two that are readily available here.

Surprisingly Norma’s big bore ammo is cheaper here than Federal, Hornady, Barnes etc and it’s supposed to be quality stuff.

 

[Hunter-Habib]

Federal is owned by The Czechoslovakia Group. Does that count?

@BeeMaa

I knew that the Czech group was planning to buy Remington and Federal. But did the deal end up going through ?

 

[Pondoro]

Sologne is entirely new to me.. Did any of you try out this ammo..?

 

[Hunter-Habib]

Sologne is entirely new to me.. Did any of you try out this ammo..?

Why, Yes @Pondoro

In .300 Weatherby Magnum loaded with 200Gr Nosler Partitions.

I really liked what I saw.

 

[Northern Shooter]

Sax is new to me, looks like they produce everything up to 600NE.

Not seeing any stock in country unfortunately.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Sax is new to me, looks like they produce everything up to 600NE.

Not seeing any stock in country unfortunately.

Hopefully, some of these European manufacturers will jump on the opportunity to fill ammo orders in Canada.

It would be nice if Trudeau just issued a blanket order to search every US vehicle at the border. You can be assured searches will be ramped up a LOT. US tourists will not get a welcome reception this summer. I advise renting a car up here with Canadian plates.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

America tried protectionism before...did not work then..

McKinley Tariff - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And you know what happened to him.

 

[rookhawk]

Big bore ammo?

RWS definitely. GECO used to do at least medium bore. I haven’t seen any interesting GECO in North America in ten years, they now focus on 308/40/45/9/223.

Necg was an RWS dealer and they still have some on their website I think. Have a look at what calibers remain.

 

[DieJager]

In know the 375 but never saw anything bigger at least not in Europe but maybe it is different in the states.

 

[Northern Shooter]

Wow, the Kynoch website could use an update. Looks straight out of 1999.

 

[grand veneur]

RWS produce cartridges caliber 10,75x68 and 10,75x73/404 Jeffery in the past, but nowadays the biggest they have in their range is the 10,3x68 Magnum, as far as you can call it a big bore.

The cartridge 375 H&H Magnum is not a big bore cartridge.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

RWS produce cartridges caliber 10,75x68 and 10,75x73/404 Jeffery in the past, but nowadays the biggest they have in their range is the 10,3x68 Magnum, as far as you can call it a big bore.

The cartridge 375 H&H Magnum is not a big bore cartridge.

I had problems with their 404 brass. Very poor quality control. In my batch anyway. Not a fan.

 

[Hunter-Habib]

I had problems with their brass. Very poor quality control. In my batch anyway. Not a fan.

The FMJ solids which they made for the .404 Jeffery from 1973-1993 were also extremely weakly constructed. With very thin steel jackets.

Strangely enough, the FMJ solids which they made for the .375 Holland & Holland Magnum were of stronger construction. But their factory loaded ammunition for the .375 Holland & Holland Magnum was ridiculously overpressure. Rifle bolts would fail to open after just two or three shots.

Perhaps @grand veneur can shed some light on this.

 

[BeeMaa]

@BeeMaa

I knew that the Czech group was planning to buy Remington and Federal. But did the deal end up going through ?

It was blocked temporarily, but eventually did happen...unfortunately.

 

[PerH]

Sax is new to me, looks like they produce everything up to 600NE.

Not seeing any stock in country unfortunately.

Sax load much of the bullets Lutz Möller developed ,

I saw they had a couple of years ago a 230 grain copper hp expanding in 404 Jeffery , 940 ms for that one

And a 300 grain also they load and more

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[deewayne2003]

We're all adults here, we know that these are not the real reason these tariffs are being imposed. That's just the cover.

Correct, we know the real reason for these tariffs as they have already been stated.

So drop the ridiculous one sided tariffs on American goods as we know Trudeau will do as soon as his temper tantrum is over...... Just like he did the last time Trump renegotiated trade in his last term; Trudeau waited until 10min before the trade agreement expired before he signed it.