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[Mr. Zorg]

I suppose there are South African versions of dishes like haggis, I'm not surprised that animals are harvested for consumption from nose to tail as much as possible in Africa. I grew up eating more organ meats for my generation, my dad would go in 50/50 with a friend of his with some acreage on a calf at auction. When the calf was ready for slaughter my dad did that task, doing the first past butchering then having a meat processor handle the finer cuts. My dad lived with his uncle and worked in his uncle's butcher shop from the age of 13 in in 1931 until he was drafted in 1942, so he was first hand familiar with slaughtering and butchering all sorts of food animals with only hand tools and had a finesse that I suppose only comes from your living depending on the quality of the job done.

Here in Texas we have plenty of vultures, coyotes, and fox who enjoy scavenging gut piles with bobcats and the occasional puma sprinkled in. Jagurundi have been sighted in Texas after being declared extinct in Texas in 1986. I saw jagurundi both in the wild and the zoo in Belize 15 years ago on a combination scuba and ruins vacation in Belize. And of course we have the mystical chupacabras here but I haven't personally seen one yet.

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

Welcome to AH. Good luck.

 

[jeanes]

Welcome. This is a great site. I too have been put on blood thinners for Afib. Made my first "long" flight since starting them recently, going RT to Seattle with no ill effects. I think compression socks are the way to go as well as a little walking. Still, a flight to RSA is a bit intimidating. Best of luck with your hunting.

 

[buck wild]

Welcome to another Texan- your Avatar is an interesting choice from a Texas guy

 

[Red Leg]

Welcome to another Texan- your Avatar is an interesting choice from a Texas guy

I don’t know - I think Gary Oldman is one of the great actors of our age - ok, maybe not that role! When thinking of his best work, Darkest Hour and The Professional come to mind. And unique for the industry, he is apolitical.

But back to the drift of the current conversation- I do not do organs.

 

[jeanes]

+1 on "Darkest Hour". Backstrap is better.

 

[buck wild]

I don’t know - I think Gary Oldman is one of the great actors of our age - ok, maybe not that role! When thinking of his best work, Darkest Hour and The Professional come to mind. And unique for the industry, he is apolitical.

But back to the drift of the current conversation- I do not do organs.

Admittedly I know nothing of this movie LOL. I just thought the picture was rather odd

 

[Mr. Zorg]

I find it a fitting user name when engaging in discussions that involve weapons in general and firearms in particular. The pic comes with the depiction of the charachter Jean-Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg in the movie The Fifth Element released in 1997.

My opinion of best charachter depiction by Gary Oldman is Mason Verger in the movie Hannibal released in 2001, an inherently challenging role for any actor. Another challenging role was Sid Vicious in Sid & Nancy. I haven't watched Darkest Hour yet.

WRT organ meats, where & when I grew up everyone in the family ate what was prepared and served, they came with the overall package when slaughtering an animal. Having said that lungs, brains, intestines, genitalia, stomachs, and kidneys were not prepared and served to the human members in our family, but some were fed to canine members of the family. Liver, heart, and tongue were prepared and served to human members of the family. Discrimination on individual preferences ended there. It's clearly an antiquated concept and practice today but worked fine for my family. Same concept went for vegetables grown in our garden, and giblets from poultry. Fortunately both my parents had well above average cooking talents.

FWIW eating animals head to tail as much as possible is how indigenous people in arctic latitudes escaped suffering maladies like those caused by viamin deficiencies for many generations before things like citrus fruit and vitamin pills were readily obtainable year round in such areas.

 

[buck wild]

My apologies Mr. Zorg- you are indeed Texan and I'd share a kidney stew or tripita taco with you anytime.

 

[Mr. Zorg]

No apologies necessary. All my life adjectives like normal, typical, average etc. haven't applied to me, and it doesn't bother me.

 

[Spooksar]

I'm going to try out a 9.3X62mm Zastava M70, to see if that will work for me. I unfortunately suffered a torn retina in Nov 2018, and I'm still receiving treatment for some of the more persistent effects. Although my event wasn't related to shooting directly I prefer to manage my risk of having another such event. Luckily, my left eye is my weaker (non-dominant) eye snd has been all my life. I was still able to bag a spike whitetail buck on last day of season here in Texas in January, and also able to bag two feral hogs on a hunt in April. I've been using a .25-06 instead of my jack-of-most-trades .30-06 and it's worked well for me this year.

I would enjoy hunting antelope, we only have a 9 day pronghorn season in Texas and the outfitters booked up quickly before my hunting buddy could commit. I was born in Wyoming and remember my dad bringing home antelope and deer, plus rabbits for our dog, before we moved to Texas when I was three years old.

I'm not personally interested in hunting the big cats, or The Big Five, with maybe an exception for Cape Buffalo. I'm otherwise pretty open to ideas.

Welcome aboard. The 9.3x62 will work well. I had a detached retina 18 months ago but also have Macular Degeneration in me dominate eye. It hasn’t stopped me, I now shoot left handed.

 

[sierraone]

Welcome to our forum.

 

[sgt_zim]

@Mr. Zorg - welcome! Not very far from you down here in Sugar Land, at least not by Texas standards!

I have a LH M70 in 9.3x62.

 

[sgt_zim]

I don’t know - I think Gary Oldman is one of the great actors of our age - ok, maybe not that role! When thinking of his best work, Darkest Hour and The Professional come to mind. And unique for the industry, he is apolitical.

But back to the drift of the current conversation- I do not do organs.

+1 on Darkest Hour. That movie made me to understand how he got pushed around at Yalta.

Oldman, when he says anything political, strikes me as libertarian. He unashamedly "confesses" he prefers working in the states because he gets to keep more of his money.

 

[Red Leg]

+1 on Darkest Hour. That movie made me to understand how he got pushed around at Yalta.

Oldman, when he says anything political, strikes me as libertarian. He unashamedly "confesses" he prefers working in the states because he gets to keep more of his money.

Agree with respect to Oldman though I doubt he would know what a libertarian might be - but not sure what you mean with respect to Churchill. Though I should hasten to add that I am a Churchill fan and Roosevelt critic which colors the following.

By Yalta, it was clear that the UK would struggle to maintain even a remnant of empire in the post-war world. It was also clear by then to both Roosevelt (who was very ill) and Churchill, that Churchill needed Roosevelt far more than Roosevelt needed him. Regrettably, Roosevelt also thought he could handle Stalin which led to a host of erroneous assumptions with regard to central Europe for which we paid a steep tax throughout the Cold War. Churchill had already become so frustrated with Roosevelt that he cut his own secret deal with Stalin in '44 to secure Greece (a deal, interestingly, that Stalin actually honored when he abandoned the burgeoning Greek Communist insurgency). I think Churchill's most remarkable achievement before, during, and in the short period after Yalta was to create a foundation for an internationalist Great Britain that would survive the domestic social welfare state upheaval following the war. It provided the foundation for a totally new model state that punches internationally far above its weight to the present day.

One has to always be careful subjecting movies to very much critical historical review. In "Finest Hour" Churchill's drinking was over-played because it was good theater - likewise his relationship with the King. The events in the subway never happened. And though he did indeed snuff out any meaningful challenge to his leadership, the "peace negotiation" insurgency led by Halifax had relatively little real support - or, after all, Churchill would not have been Prime Minister in the first place. But it was indeed an interesting film largely driven by Oldman's masterful, if not entirely accurate, performance.

 

[Dr Ray]

Welcome

 

[Mr. Zorg]

Thanls, y'all.

Sgt. Zim, also a username tie-in with Starship Troopers, a charachter portrayed by Clancy Brown who like Ron Perlman, I enjoy for the wide variety of roles he pops up in.

That movie was only slightly reflective of the novel. It borrowed a few elements from The Forever War (co-ed military with body modesty between genders gone) but was mostly just a Hollywood creation. All the sequels were utter drek.

Agreed that historical fiction tends to inject unrealistic bits of dramady, I generally prefer plain documentaries. A good example is the unrealistic glide path for Tom Hardy in Dunkirk. Those type of things shatter my thin veneer of willful suspension of disbelief that I have at the beginning of a movie.

 

[sgt_zim]

Agreed, the book was way better. I've read most of Heinlein's novels.

@Red Leg - i just meant his self-doubt.

This picture has been imprinted on my brain. Everything I'd ever read about him said "LION." This picture is incongruous with that. Granted, it's just a single picture, but FDR (spit, spit, spit) and Stalin seem to own this moment, and Churchill was only a bit player at Yalta, for reasons you mentioned.

IMO, what Labour did to him following the war was execrable.

As far as Oldman's politics, there's a Reason article and a Playboy internview.
https://reason.com/2014/06/24/legendary-actor-gary-oldman-outs-himself

 

[Red Leg]

Agreed, the book was way better. I've read most of Heinlein's novels.

@Red Leg - i just meant his self-doubt.

This picture has been imprinted on my brain. Everything I'd ever read about him said "LION." This picture is incongruous with that. Granted, it's just a single picture, but FDR (spit, spit, spit) and Stalin seem to own this moment, and Churchill was only a bit player at Yalta, for reasons you mentioned.

IMO, what Labour did to him following the war was execrable.

As far as Oldman's politics, there's a Reason article and a Playboy internview.
https://reason.com/2014/06/24/legendary-actor-gary-oldman-outs-himself

Lol. Could not agree more - Heinlein was one of the most prescient cultural observers and philosophers of the 20th century. Just reread “Glory Road” for about the fourth time.

“But it is a hell of a note when you can’t kill a dragon and feel lighthearted afterwards ......”

“I object to conscription the way a lobster objects to boiling water: it may be his finest hour but it is not his choice....”

And of course, “Starship Troopers” should be required reading in every high school in the country.

And @Mr Zorg I would have to agree that “Dunkirk” was a huge disappointment. The “clever” use of the parallel vignettes simply trivialized one of the most daring and unexpected miracles of the war. All as Kenneth Branagh stared grimly and largely mutely into the western sky.

 

[enysse]

Welcome to AH!