New Documentary Film On A Lion Hunt

Nadav Harel

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Hello,
I'm proud to present the film King of Beasts we released this week, it's 86 min. long and it's not "mommy daddy pipi kaki" self indulgent kind of movie, this is wildlife thought provoking film in the hardcore sense, NO ROMANTICISM, only man versus nature and himself! Conservation, instincts, encroachment, this film is a fly on the wall documentary following one special hunter from Colorado on his quest for a wild lion with a bow hunt in Tanzania Tabore district.
Trailer:

The film is available now for a decent price on itunes, amazon, vodu and many other platforms.

Itunes: https://itunes.apple.com/il/movie/king-of-beasts/id1445807317

Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/King-Beasts-Blu-ray-Artist-Provided/dp/6317581231

Thanks for your time
Would love to hear your thoughts on the film

Nadav
producer/co-director/editor/cinematographer of King of Beasts
 
Welcome!
 
I’ll watch it tonight and get back to you.
 
No matter how good your film is (or isnt) it pisses me to see you join this community simply to sell your wares.
Hows about you join in nicely and offer a number of blu rays as an intro.
 
Well, Based on the trailer and not seeing the whole movie, I am not sure I like this portrayal of the African hunting community. Maybe I have softened a bit as I grow older but the Machismo thing makes hunters look bad to the anti's .. Just my humble opinion of course. Oh and being carried around in a sedan chair, nice touch :rolleyes:

Sorry to be negative I just spend a lot of time in Africa and am always the one defending the hunting community to locals and trying to explain we are not bloodthirsty barbarians that are raping nature, but respect nature and conservation and are willing to pay for the honor of hunting such a great continent.
 
Well, Based on the trailer and not seeing the whole movie, I am not sure I like this portrayal of the African hunting community. Maybe I have softened a bit as I grow older but the Machismo thing makes hunters look bad to the anti's .. Just my humble opinion of course. Oh and being carried around in a sedan chair, nice touch :rolleyes:

Sorry to be negative I just spend a lot of time in Africa and am always the one defending the hunting community to locals and trying to explain we are not bloodthirsty barbarians that are raping nature, but respect nature and conservation and are willing to pay for the honor of hunting such a great continent.
We really need to see the film before commenting don’t you think? You may have a point but we must be informed. The subject is a famous professional hunter not an average joe. This is the only real take away from the trailer. I’ll watch this when I get time and then make a comment on what I think about it.
Philip
 
We really need to see the film before commenting don’t you think? You may have a point but we must be informed. The subject is a famous professional hunter not an average joe. This is the only real take away from the trailer. I’ll watch this when I get time and then make a comment on what I think about it.
Philip
Phillip

Your exactly correct hence the reason I said “based on the trailer and not seeing the whole movie. “ It was just my first impressions based off watching the trailer twice.

I would love to watch the whole thing and of course I support hunting efforts. But I am also hypersensitive (sadly) to our current culture and how they can easily spin this negative and overall hurt our cause. But again. That’s just based on the trailer. I am looking forward to your and other people’s input on the whole film.
 
Phillip

Your exactly correct hence the reason I said “based on the trailer and not seeing the whole movie. “ It was just my first impressions based off watching the trailer twice.

I would love to watch the whole thing and of course I support hunting efforts. But I am also hypersensitive (sadly) to our current culture and how they can easily spin this negative and overall hurt our cause. But again. That’s just based on the trailer. I am looking forward to your and other people’s input on the whole film.
Thanks I’ll post a review soon. You are right about our super sensitive culture!
 
I just wonder if Arron ( the hunter) would put himself or the hunting community in a bad light in regards to this movie. One would have to assume he would not and it would not be an anti hunting production.
 
@Nadav Harel - I watched it last night. Thoughts:

I enjoyed the cinematography but I did feel the musical score distracted from the artistic experience of the film. As for the content, I applaud you for taking what I believe was a mostly unbiased approach to this film. You let the cameras roll without an agenda. Period.

Any negative comments that I have about the content of the film stem from my own biases and passions about the problems game face in Africa - namely poaching, corruption and human encroachment. I wish you had spent more time addressing these issues.

For example, your average viewer believes that sub-Saharan Africa is one giant savanah or rainforest. They have no concept that Africa today has very little wilderness left. Outside of a few mega-cities, most of the continent south of the Sahara is rural land that is quite densely populated with people. In Kenya, slums press into the Masai Mara, while in Zambia you’ll see people literally infused in the bush around all the major parks. Same in Tanzania - as you show.

The film mentions human conflict with wildlife. It may have helped your viewer to know that in Tanzania, there were 10 million people in 1960 while today, there are nearly 60 million people. In Africa as a whole, the population has exploded from 285 million in 1960 to over 1.3 billion this year. Simple stats like this put the magnitude of pressure placed on wildlife in context for a person watching who doesn’t understand how and why these animals are competing with people on increasingly marginal land.

Another point that you touched on was the local attitudes toward wildlife. When the children were asked what they thought of lions, they all said, “Bad!” Your viewer may not know WHY they say that. Maybe 2 minutes of footage with a man who lost a head of cattle (and therefore all of his worldly wealth) to a lion would show them. Now, his kids don’t eat. People in the west don’t understand the poverty that exists in these countries. They can’t grasp that when a cow gets killed, the men in the town get together and poison not just the lion that killed his cow, but every last one in the pride. And any person with a heart for the locals can’t blame them. Africa’s not a theme park, and her people deserve to live as much as we do and I would argue more than a lion. And without addressing what African’s need, the animals will all be dead.

Poaching also is discussed, but the magnitude of the bushmeat trade across the continent wasn’t. And your film was about lions - so this matters. If a lion doesn’t have wildlife to hunt, they starve. And a starving lion will go for an easy target like livestock. When he does, the locals will bring out the poison.

As for corruption, whether African governments turn a blind eye toward poaching or actively participate in it (both are true), the failure of those in power to protect thier resources and the corruption of these regimes can’t be underestimated. Which means that the resources dedicated to protecting wildlife - and wild lands - for now must come from someplace else.

Overall, although I wish you had gone deeper, liked the movie. I do take issue with your comment at the end of the film that trophy hunting exasperates the problem of wildlife decline. The dramatic rise in game animals in South Africa and Namibia prove otherwise, as well as the success we have had in the United States of bringing back many of our wild animals from near-extinction just 100 years ago. Heck, look at Mozambique! The wildlife was all but gone after the civil war and today it is thriving. Why? Hunters who provide a vehicle for the wildlife to pay thier own way.

Aside from all of that, welcome! I hope that you will become a regular visitor and contributor to this forum.
 
This is a nice site with many nice members and an owner who I imagine pays for it's up keep.

I imagine that the only money he makes is from advertising .

Granted, this is not my site, but Nadav Herzel don't you think that it would be the right thing to do to pay to advertise before you start posting a film for sale to make money from before you do it?
 
This is a nice site with many nice members and an owner who I imagine pays for it's up keep.

I imagine that the only money he makes is from advertising .

Granted, this is not my site, but Nadav Herzel don't you think that it would be the right thing to do to pay to advertise before you start posting a film for sale to make money from before you do it?
@ Von S. I much appreciate your support! I need to mention that @Nadav Harel sent me a PM a few days ago asking me permission to share his film here with our community and I agreed. I thought that some members may be interested in knowing about this documentary and perhaps watch it...

Here is @Nadav Harel message to me:

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All right, my interest is piqued at least. I may have to download this weekend and give it a watch.

@Nadav Harel ,

Welcome!

If you'll stick around and post a bit I assure you that you'll find the following :
  1. We are a very friendly online community
  2. Lots of hunting experience here. If you're truly looking for honest feedback, you'll get it
We can be a little suspicious of "outsiders" as antis love to twist the truth to fit an agenda.
 
All right, my interest is piqued at least. I may have to download this weekend and give it a watch.

@Nadav Harel ,

Welcome!

If you'll stick around and post a bit I assure you that you'll find the following :
  1. We are a very friendly online community
  2. Lots of hunting experience here. If you're truly looking for honest feedback, you'll get it
We can be a little suspicious of "outsiders" as antis love to twist the truth to fit an agenda.
Thank You, appreciate the welcome
 
@Nadav Harel - I watched it last night. Thoughts:

I enjoyed the cinematography but I did feel the musical score distracted from the artistic experience of the film. As for the content, I applaud you for taking what I believe was a mostly unbiased approach to this film. You let the cameras roll without an agenda. Period.

Any negative comments that I have about the content of the film stem from my own biases and passions about the problems game face in Africa - namely poaching, corruption and human encroachment. I wish you had spent more time addressing these issues.

For example, your average viewer believes that sub-Saharan Africa is one giant savanah or rainforest. They have no concept that Africa today has very little wilderness left. Outside of a few mega-cities, most of the continent south of the Sahara is rural land that is quite densely populated with people. In Kenya, slums press into the Masai Mara, while in Zambia you’ll see people literally infused in the bush around all the major parks. Same in Tanzania - as you show.

The film mentions human conflict with wildlife. It may have helped your viewer to know that in Tanzania, there were 10 million people in 1960 while today, there are nearly 60 million people. In Africa as a whole, the population has exploded from 285 million in 1960 to over 1.3 billion this year. Simple stats like this put the magnitude of pressure placed on wildlife in context for a person watching who doesn’t understand how and why these animals are competing with people on increasingly marginal land.

Another point that you touched on was the local attitudes toward wildlife. When the children were asked what they thought of lions, they all said, “Bad!” Your viewer may not know WHY they say that. Maybe 2 minutes of footage with a man who lost a head of cattle (and therefore all of his worldly wealth) to a lion would show them. Now, his kids don’t eat. People in the west don’t understand the poverty that exists in these countries. They can’t grasp that when a cow gets killed, the men in the town get together and poison not just the lion that killed his cow, but every last one in the pride. And any person with a heart for the locals can’t blame them. Africa’s not a theme park, and her people deserve to live as much as we do and I would argue more than a lion. And without addressing what African’s need, the animals will all be dead.

Poaching also is discussed, but the magnitude of the bushmeat trade across the continent wasn’t. And your film was about lions - so this matters. If a lion doesn’t have wildlife to hunt, they starve. And a starving lion will go for an easy target like livestock. When he does, the locals will bring out the poison.

As for corruption, whether African governments turn a blind eye toward poaching or actively participate in it (both are true), the failure of those in power to protect thier resources and the corruption of these regimes can’t be underestimated. Which means that the resources dedicated to protecting wildlife - and wild lands - for now must come from someplace else.

Overall, although I wish you had gone deeper, liked the movie. I do take issue with your comment at the end of the film that trophy hunting exasperates the problem of wildlife decline. The dramatic rise in game animals in South Africa and Namibia prove otherwise, as well as the success we have had in the United States of bringing back many of our wild animals from near-extinction just 100 years ago. Heck, look at Mozambique! The wildlife was all but gone after the civil war and today it is thriving. Why? Hunters who provide a vehicle for the wildlife to pay thier own way.

Aside from all of that, welcome! I hope that you will become a regular visitor and contributor to this forum.

hello, Thank you for the thoughtful feedback! I agree with your suggestions, though remember that what holds the film together is that it's a documentation of a single hunt, a fly on the wall approach of observing situations with minimum manipulation.
All best, here for any question or thought
 
I just finished the film. The intro scene of the bushmen killing a lion with Spears was fantastic! I’ve never seen such historic footage. I enjoyed the erie music that showed up at times and made for a bit of excitement. I guess I don’t see the real point of the film. It is basically a Aaron Nielson hunting show. With that in mind it was ok. The hunting of a real wild lion with a bow in Tanzania will always be a subject most of us would like to study. For the casual observer the effort to set up such a hunt with many days of baiting and all that goes with it will be most interesting. Finally, the name of this film was not very creative.
I do wish the film makers well and hope they pursue more wildlife films like this. We need more individuals who care about wildlife to tell these stories.
Regards,
Philip
 
I have not seen the film, and most likely will not based on the review that you posted from the Hollywood Reporter:

"A final title-card does adopt an unambiguously negative stance, however (the film is, after, all, "made with the support of the Humane Society of the USA"). Almagor and Harel indict Neilson and his ilk for "exacerbating the problem" by exploiting the relative poverty of economically downtrodden places such as Tanzania that welcome such free-spending foreign visitors with open arms."

Sorry, anything HSUS backed I will not support and why Mr Nelson agreed to take part in anything back by HSUS is beyond comprehension.
 
I have not seen the film, and most likely will not based on the review that you posted from the Hollywood Reporter:

"A final title-card does adopt an unambiguously negative stance, however (the film is, after, all, "made with the support of the Humane Society of the USA"). Almagor and Harel indict Neilson and his ilk for "exacerbating the problem" by exploiting the relative poverty of economically downtrodden places such as Tanzania that welcome such free-spending foreign visitors with open arms."

Sorry, anything HSUS backed I will not support and why Mr Nelson agreed to take part in anything back by HSUS is beyond comprehension.

Hello, HSUS backed the project in a very preliminary stage, when we were still ignorant and saw things as mainstream media presented them, but it took 6 years of research and film work and a few visits to Africa to learn what we know today and present the content of the film as it is today. So pls don't be biased towards the film before you saw it just because of HSUS, their intentions are not bad, but we did learn that the animal lovers lack a lot of information, it's part of our challenge in the film, our film has integrity and is true to what we saw in Tanzania.
all best
Nadav, producer/co-director/editor/cinematographer of KING OF BEASTS
 

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