Needing Latest Info For Building A Budget .416 Remington Mag Rifle

[ChrisG]

If all you’re going to do is shoot it at the range, you could use a Remington 700 action with no problem at all. The extraction issue that can rarely occur with this rifle is not really an issue unless you’re hunting DG. There’s a used Remington 700 in 416 REM Mag on Gunsinternational as we speak for $1450. You won’t be able to go build one for less money.

Man at that point, I'd shell out $1,550 and get a brand new CRF winchester M70 in .416 Rem mag, straighten the bolt handle out, put custom wood on it, new sights and call it a day.

Nothing wrong with them from the factory, but this thread was about a custom rifle... so I would definitely customize it in that case

 

[Country-Folk]

Just to clarify in hopes it will be clear for my intentions, reasoning, etc for building a big game rifle 1 component at a time.

As my first post was showing, I'm not concerned if I have some more money into building my rifle than if buying a completed rifle....I mean as long as its not WAY overboard ..... and I know it wont be way overboard based on me knowing I will make certain to bargain hunt all of my components that are needed to finish the build.

This is the better route to take for my individual situations of:

I'm not able to hand over the whole cost upfront for a complete .416 Rem Mag rifle (average final cost of 1,4000 based on having watched gunbroker items over the past couple months... and yes that includes the tax, 50.00 for shipping, and 30.00 for FFL dealer fee), and therefore I'm only concerned with buying individual components based upon what my budget will allow to happen.

Besides from my individual income which limits me to only being able to buy 1 component of the gun build every few months, here in Ohio there's the miserable winter weather which prevents me from getting outside and in the garage where I love to keep active instead of becoming dumb from having watched the increasing dumb and lame crap that's mostly on tv anymore, and so a nice project like building my own gun is what I want to give me something to do during winter months and it will be a good feeling of accomplishment rather than merely seeing a completed gun, paying, and then walking away with it

 

[WI-2021]

Just to clarify in hopes it will be clear for my intentions, reasoning, etc for building a big game rifle 1 component at a time.

As my first post was showing, I'm not concerned if I have some more money into building my rifle than if buying a completed rifle....I mean as long as its not WAY overboard ..... and I know it wont be way overboard based on me knowing I will make certain to bargain hunt all of my components that are needed to finish the build.

This is the better route to take for my individual situations of:

I'm not able to hand over the whole cost upfront for a complete .416 Rem Mag rifle (average final cost of 1,4000 based on having watched gunbroker items over the past couple months... and yes that includes the tax, 50.00 for shipping, and 30.00 for FFL dealer fee), and therefore I'm only concerned with buying individual components based upon what my budget will allow to happen.

Besides from my individual income which limits me to only being able to buy 1 component of the gun build every few months, here in Ohio there's the miserable winter weather which prevents me from getting outside and in the garage where I love to keep active instead of becoming dumb from having watched the increasing dumb and lame crap that's mostly on tv anymore, and so a nice project like building my own gun is what I want to give me something to do during winter months and it will be a good feeling of accomplishment rather than merely seeing a completed gun, paying, and then walking away with it

If you can save up for each component, you can save up for the complete rifle; it just takes longer. That said, I understand the draw of building your own.

I will say that building a Remington pattern with a prefit barrel isn't much of a project, at least in terms of the actual assembly labor. On the other hand, researching components and learning is part of the project too, and that will take some time and effort.

If you want a more hands-on project in terms of metal and wood working, a project Like Ontario Hunter's .404 is much more involved than putting together a 700 pattern rifle. It all depends what you want from this project and your capabilities.

 

[Country-Folk]

WI-2021 "If you can save up for each component, you can save up for the complete rifle; it just takes longer."

Hey Gomer,

No one needs you telling them what they're capable of doing and not capable of doing with the money in their own household.
You throw out your spiel based on your immature mentality whereby thinking your ideals must apply to everyone.

Are you married? Do you even know what it means to try to save up money but you have a wife who over the years isn't the same as what she use to be when it comes to responsibility?

So you never heard of a wife who will spend the money as soon as finding out there's a large accumulation of it?

And just in case, no, I dont need you telling me how to store the money either

 

[WI-2021]

WI-2021 "If you can save up for each component, you can save up for the complete rifle; it just takes longer."

Hey Gomer,

No one needs you telling them what they're capable of doing and not capable of doing with the money in their own household.
You throw out your spiel based on your immature mentality whereby thinking your ideals must apply to everyone.

Are you married? Do you even know what it means to try to save up money but you have a wife who over the years isn't the same as what she use to be when it comes to responsibility?

So you never heard of a wife who will spend the money as soon as finding out there's a large accumulation of it?

And just in case, no, I dont need you telling me how to store the money either

I apologize for my comment, but you're out of line. Perhaps focus on all of the other helpful advice you've been receiving throughout this thread from myself and others, rather than the one comment that rubbed you the wrong way.

 

[ChrisG]

If your interested in starting with a beat up rifle, heres one I did several years ago. Started out as a rusty whitworth.

You might be able to find a beat up 416 rem you can remake in your own image.

I did all the work on this one from rebluing to stock shaping, finishing and checkering

The only thing I didn't do was the 2 position safety. It looks like a 3 position win model 70 safety but I have no use for the middle position so it is either on or off. I took a crack at it but had to have a gunsmith touch it up for me

https://www.africahunting.com/threa...a-sows-ear-project.63530/page-10#post-1154833

 

[ChrisG]

If your interested in starting with a beat up rifle, heres one I did several years ago. Started out as a rusty whitworth.

You might be able to find a beat up 416 rem you can remake in your own image.

I did all the work on this one from rebluing to stock shaping, finishing and checkering

The only thing I didn't do was the 2 position safety. It looks like a 3 position win model 70 safety but I have no use for the middle position so it is either on or off.

Here is the finished product

 

[cajunchefray]

If your interested in starting with a beat up rifle, heres one I did several years ago. Started out as a rusty whitworth.

I was thinking the same thing for @Countrylife.
Get an Interarms Alaskan or African in .375 H&H (you can find the Alaskans cheaper). The price of the rifle, if you shop well, will be cheaper than a plain action. Re barrel the .375 H&H to .416 Rem. Go to town with upgrades, sights, barrel band sling swivels, etc. This can be accomplished over time in a proper budget.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

If you can save up for each component, you can save up for the complete rifle; it just takes longer. That said, I understand the draw of building your own.

I will say that building a Remington pattern with a prefit barrel isn't much of a project, at least in terms of the actual assembly labor. On the other hand, researching components and learning is part of the project too, and that will take some time and effort.

If you want a more hands-on project in terms of metal and wood working, a project Like Ontario Hunter's .404 is much more involved than putting together a 700 pattern rifle. It all depends what you want from this project and your capabilities.

Actually, my woodworking was nothing special, initially anyway. First stock was semi-finished rough that I bought off an auction site for just over $100. No checkering though that probably would have happened down the road. It came equipped with one forward crossbolt. I did make the fore end cap from a piece of zebrawood and that did require some fancy shop work. They can be ordered in black plastic but I didn't have time to wait for one. Raw zebrawood was available locally.

(Photo before bluing)
Fore end cap certainly isn't necessary. I would forego it for a budget build. I added a second internal crossbolt behind the magazine. Not very difficult. A Dremel tool with carving bit, a piece of threaded rod, and tube of JB Weld is all that's needed. One can just as easily add two internal crossbolts for a stock without any. Opening up the barrel trough isn't rocket science. Very easy. I used a wooden dowel and sandpaper. Caveman tools. Synthetic stocks can be a pain though because the sanding dust becomes static charged and acts as a clinging lubricant in the trough. Adding a trigger with side safety can require some stock carving if the original action has a shroud with flag safety (e.g. Springfield or Mauser).

Again, keep in mind the abundance of aftermarket options for 98 Mauser. Without any doubt that action is the most popular for custom builds ... for the last 120 years at least. Whatever you need, the options are almost endless. It's one reason I was able to finish my 404 build, my first ever, in four months vs several years. An abundance of aftermarket options for parts = shopping for prices = less $$$. If the OP has time to finish his project (and I did not), he has even more potential for economy. I paid about $225 US for a barreled action with already modified bolt handle. I know a guy who last year had two more Czech Mauser actions with unmodified bolts. He hinted I could have one for $250. They both were fairly clean. Biggest expense for me was the barrel. $400 + $600 to have it threaded, reamed, and mounted. If I'd had the luxury of time, I would have bought or rented the tools needed to mount the barrel myself.

Second stock was used with beautiful figure and checkering. $250 US and it did require plenty of work. Two Winchester crossbolts did require some tricky shop work. Internal crossbolts was not an option. Previous owner/gunsmith whittled out too much wood internally. The wrist on this stock was MUCH thinner so I added a steel pin for reinforcement. Setting up jigs to drill crossbolts and wrist pin was complicated but other options are available for better wood or synthetic stocks (better wood = internal crossbolts; synthetic stock = no crossbolts or wrist pin needed).