My baby got a haircut

[Wiley64]

I have suppressors on three ARs. One is the ranch repel boarders MP4 and the other two or a 5.56 and .308 with thermals that I use on hogs and other vermin. They are also mounted on two different handguns. I understand their use and advantages very well.

As well as understanding the advantages of a suppressor, I also recognize their disadvantages. In this application, a suppressor not only seems a little silly, it can also be a real disadvantage where fast accurate use of a rifle in very close cover is more likely than almost any other hunt.

I assumed the OP must have been planning his DG hunt on a South African game ranch. I hasten to add, there is nothing wrong with such a hunt. I hunted one of my buffalo in the Limpopo. But, it is typically a different experience than hunting the herds and loners in other environments. I can not imagine trying to deal with such a lengthy rifle in those conditions, and though PH's in places like Zim, the Caprivi, Moz and Tanzania would be happy to try to guide a client with such a rig for a buffalo or tusker, I can not imagine any in my acquaintance recommending one.

But of course it is badass which I assume must count for a great deal. I am glad that his PH is happy with it.

This is actually my first can purchase- you are correct we will be hunting buffalo on a private ranch in the eastern cape, they will be large areas, but we aren’t exactly crawling through Jess like in the Zambezi valley or something. When I inevitably book that type of trip, or travel where suppressors are not allowed, I will just unscrew the can, and have my irons re-mounted, and will add qd rings as well. The gunsmith said he is seeing more and more people suppress these large rifles. If we can get some dry weather I will report back what the shooting experience with this new setup is like.

 

[coreydb]

Cans are a personal preference and one should hear the report of a rifle firing to hear what it really sounds like. Molded-fit ear protection is awesome for those who don't like the mickey mouse ears and you can modulate the noise cancelling but still hear speech.

 

[Daisy]

I have suppressors on three ARs. One is the ranch repel boarders MP4 and the other two or a 5.56 and .308 with thermals that I use on hogs and other vermin. They are also mounted on two different handguns. I understand their use and advantages very well.

As well as understanding the advantages of a suppressor, I also recognize their disadvantages. In this application, a suppressor not only seems a little silly, it can also be a real disadvantage where fast accurate use of a rifle in very close cover is more likely than almost any other hunt.

I assumed the OP must have been planning his DG hunt on a South African game ranch. I hasten to add, there is nothing wrong with such a hunt. I hunted one of my buffalo in the Limpopo. But, it is typically a different experience than hunting the herds and loners in other environments. I can not imagine trying to deal with such a lengthy rifle in those conditions, and though PH's in places like Zim, the Caprivi, Moz and Tanzania would be happy to try to guide a client with such a rig for a buffalo or tusker, I can not imagine any in my acquaintance recommending one.

But of course it is badass which I assume must count for a great deal. I am glad that his PH is happy with it.

It would be no more lengthy than the rifle 95% of people use.

 

[Rafiki]

It is the banish 46 from silencer central

How long is that can?

 

[Red Leg]

It would be no more lengthy than the rifle 95% of people use.

You should try math - it will free you from making rash pithy comments like that. He cut the barrel to 20 inches. From the photo, I would guess that suppressor is right at seven inches long. Unless flintlocks suddenly came into vogue again this morning, 95% are using something meaningfully shorter.

Unless it is made out of titanium, he has also added a dumbbell to the end of the rifle - hard on that balance thing.

 

[Flipper Dude]

Hell, I thought 375 H&Hs were for women and children.

 

[Wiley64]

It would be no more lengthy than the rifle 95% of people use.

That’s how I feel, once you shorten the original barrel and add the can, the difference is negligible, what you gain in accuracy and shoot ability in my opinion offsets any maneuverability sacrifices you have to make. Not to mention, wearing hearing protection has major disadvantages as well. The only reason you don’t see more dg rifles set up like this is because you can’t take suppressors to several remote African countries. I actually think that will change over time and they will become the norm not the exception.

 

[RR 314]

Hell, I thought 375 H&Hs were for women and children.

You forgot "wormy" men. .

---Credit Lewis Grizzard

I can say this as I actually like the .375. Then again, with age I get "wormier".

 

[Newboomer]

lol… no!

Now that would be something to see--a suppressed double. Just how would one accomplish that?

 

[RR 314]

That’s how I feel, once you shorten the original barrel and add the can, the difference is negligible, what you gain in accuracy and shoot ability in my opinion offsets any maneuverability sacrifices have to make. Not to mention, wearing hearing protection has major disadvantages as well. The only reason you don’t see more dg rifles set up like this is because you can’t take suppressors to several remote African countries. I actually think that will change over time and they will become the norm not the exception.

The premise that the "only reason" you don't see more cans (and DGRs without iron sights) is due to prohibition of the same is not supportable. If the same ever becomes the norm, the Republic truly has fallen. It may be the preference of wormy men in stretch skinny pants , but to those who appreciate fine rifles specifically made for the task of hunting dangerous game, they will remain an abomination. They will become more common, but I cannot envision them becoming the norm. Then again, just a decade ago almost everyone conceded there were only two genders. Odd times are upon us.

 

[Wiley64]

Hell, I thought 375 H&Hs were for women and children.

lol. Love it

 

[Wiley64]

The premise that the "only reason" you don't see more cans (and DGRs without iron sights) is due to prohibition of the same is not supportable. If the same ever becomes the norm, the Republic truly has fallen. It may be the preference of wormy men in stretch skinny pants , but to those who appreciate fine rifles specifically made for the task of hunting dangerous game, they will remain an abomination. They will become more common, but I cannot envision them becoming the norm. Then again, just a decade ago almost everyone conceded there were only two genders. Odd times are upon us.

Try not to lose sleep over my rifle dude. This isn’t that big a deal, you are worried about the aesthetics of someone else’s weapon

 

[coreydb]

Hell, I thought 375 H&Hs were for women and children.

.......and me...the over 70 for lunch bunch

 

[RR 314]

Try not to lose sleep over my rifle dude. This isn’t that big a deal, you are worried about the aesthetics of someone else’s weapon

Reading is fundamental. I haven't said anything about your rifle. I have always been in the camp that one should do whatever they want with their guns. The only thing I addressed was your assertions that suppressors would become the norm for DGRs and the "only reason" they are not more prevalent is due to legal impediment in some countries.

 

[Wiley64]

How long is that can?

8 inches in the field, 10 at the range

 

[Wiley64]

You should try math - it will free you from making rash pithy comments like that. He cut the barrel to 20 inches. From the photo, I would guess that suppressor is right at seven inches long. Unless flintlocks suddenly came into vogue again this morning, 95% are using something meaningfully shorter.

Unless it is made out of titanium, he has also added a dumbbell to the end of the rifle - hard on that balance thing.

It is titanium - the balance feels fine to me, we’ll see how it shoots

 

[coreydb]

Wiley- you have the perfect platform for what you want to do. Please flash us ap pic of your trophy and description of the sound.. Contact these other members below, because they all did and had success. 318AE even referred this issue to Winchester and got a thumbs up. You ain't the first, just the latest.

TOBY458, Sarg, USMA84DAB, 318AE​

 

[Daisy]

The premise that the "only reason" you don't see more cans (and DGRs without iron sights) is due to prohibition of the same is not supportable. If the same ever becomes the norm, the Republic truly has fallen. It may be the preference of wormy men in stretch skinny pants , but to those who appreciate fine rifles specifically made for the task of hunting dangerous game, they will remain an abomination. They will become more common, but I cannot envision them becoming the norm. Then again, just a decade ago almost everyone conceded there were only two genders. Odd times are upon us.

I’d yell at you but odds are you couldn’t hear me

 

[Wiley64]

Reading is fundamental. I haven't said anything about your rifle. I have always been in the camp that one should do whatever they want with their guns. The only thing I addressed was your assertions that suppressors would become the norm for DGRs and the "only reason" they are not more prevalent is due to legal impediment in some countries.

Hearing is also fundamental. I read your post… to say that suppressors gaining popularity means the republic has fallen is specifically what I was referring to, and the “skinny jeans” and “wormy men part”. I’ll stand by what I said, since only time will determine if I am right. For now just rest assured no one is going to roll up in skinny jeans and force anyone to suppress their dg rifles.

 

[Wiley64]

I'm glad you like your suppressed Model 70 but it's not for me. I like classic guns and rifles and wouldn't think of doing that to a rifle. I know the suppressors have some positive attributes but I enjoyed learning to handle the recoil of my 416 and did not find it terribly loud while hunting. I also believe in good iron sights and detachable scopes. When I approached my Buffalo the scope was off my rifle. I'm certain that my way of thinking is going away but I don't care. Hell, I shoot clays with a British hammergun.

I get it.. i was a nervous nelly dropping it off. Originally I wasn’t going to shorten it, just thread it. The gunsmith convinced me this was the right move.