Maximum point blank range

[MS 9x56]

I’m not exactly sure the question, but I refuse to use dials. I sight the majority of my rifles +2 at 100 and in some cases +3 depending on the hunt. I then shoot at 200 and 300 to know where the bullet hits and go hunting. My furthest first shot hunting has been 360 yards. Is this not standard practice?

Being an aging boomer I still use mpbr

 

[MS 9x56]

Follow up, MPBR has worked for me for 58 years so I see no reason to change. Too many things can go wrong with the battery powered gizmos. I do like and use the holdover dot if after range testing they suit the caliber and load I am using. Call me a fudd, but all of my animal witnesses are dead so you will have to take me at my word.

 

[Bonk]

Simple is good for a simple guy like me. I use MPBR to keep it simple. Besides, all my rifles have a MPBR of close to 300 yards using a 6” circle. I don’t have the need or desire to shoot game farther than that. If I ever get the chance to hunt elk or mountain goats I might reevaluate.

 

[Bonk]

It’s getting harder and harder to find simple decent quality scopes that aren’t loaded up with fancy turrets, complicated reticles or too much magnification. I have a handful of Leupold scopes with CDS turrets that I’ve never sent in for calibration. As someone else mentioned I’m okay with an illuminated reticle but I absolutely don’t need or want a bunch of subtensions. K.I.S.S.

 

[BFaucett]

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Keeping it simple can be good.


Ruger M77 Mk II .280 Remington

Ruger M77 Hawkeye .35 Whelen

The scopes on the rifles? Well, both wear a . . .

(The rifles and scopes were purchased in 2008.)

Cheers! Bob F.

 

[DLSJR]

I do 99% of my hunting with four rifles that I’ve tried to make as similar to each other as I can. All are model 70’s (.264, .375, .416 all pre-64 & .338-post-64). All have been rebarreled (Krieger, Shilen, Hart, Lilja). All wear Brown Precision fiberglass stocks, the three smaller guns have Timney triggers set to 2 3/4 lbs, 416 is factory trigger at 3 lbs, all weigh between 8.5 lbs & 9.25 lbs., all are topped with Leupold VX5HD scopes with Firedot reticle AND CDS turrets. The .264 is zeroed at 200 yards, the other three are zeroed at 100.

While I regularly use the Firedot, I’ve never used the CDS turrets in hunting situations; I simply hold higher for longer shots. I also haven’t fired a first shot at anything much more than 300 yards in the last 10-15 years. However, I have experimented with the CDS turret on my .264; shooting as far as 750 yards with the range dialed. I was very pleased with how accurate the turret was at ranges from 500-750 yards. At every measured distance my shots were pretty much right where I aimed, other than for mild wind drift.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Follow up, MPBR has worked for me for 58 years so I see no reason to change. Too many things can go wrong with the battery powered gizmos. I do like and use the holdover dot if after range testing they suit the caliber and load I am using. Call me a fudd, but all of my animal witnesses are dead so you will have to take me at my word.

@MS 9x56
Not all of mine animal witnesses are dead.
There's still a few walking around laughing that I plumb clean missed them at close, medium and longer ranges.
Must have been something wrong with the scope or rifle because I don't miss. Have to blame something
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

It’s getting harder and harder to find simple decent quality scopes that aren’t loaded up with fancy turrets, complicated reticles or too much magnification. I have a handful of Leupold scopes with CDS turrets that I’ve never sent in for calibration. As someone else mentioned I’m okay with an illuminated reticle but I absolutely don’t need or want a bunch of subtensions. K.I.S.S.

@Bonk
I have a lovely scope with hash marks for 75,100,125,150,175 and 200 in my 22lr
The marks are for 22subsonic ammo only.
Other models are available for 22lr, 22 mag and 17HMR.
This scope is great on the range for practice.
Sight in for spot on at 50yds and the hash marks are spot on at all ranges in nine power.
This little set up is great for practice especially at 150 and 200 trying to dope the wind and other factors.
Also a great scope in the field as it's a 3-9 power

 

[MS 9x56]

@MS 9x56
Not all of mine animal witnesses are dead.
There's still a few walking around laughing that I plumb clean missed them at close, medium and longer ranges.
Must have been something wrong with the scope or rifle because I don't miss. Have to blame something
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Bob

Most of my misses come with a bow at 30 yards and under. I shot under a nice buck and just to add insult to misery he turned and sniffed my arrow before running off.

 

[Hogpatrol]

MPBR or whatever works the best for the individual dependent on the game hunted and the cartridge used. One scope for the Fireball on groundhogs, one for the .22 on squirrels, one for SML rifle on deer, longer range, it's an FFP with a dope chart and 2 moa hash marks.

 

[Daisy]

I sight at 100. Then I use reticle for shots to about 250 and dial for anything over that.

 

[grand veneur]

In practice, the shooting angle and the altitude above sea level must also be taken into account, especially by hunting in very high mountains. All of this makes it extremely difficult to regulate at home a rifle according to the MPBR and in all cases requires checking and adjusting everything on-site, above all for hunting in very high mountains.

 

[grand veneur]

Ballistica

 

[colorado]

I have couple Swarovski and Schmidt&Bender scopes with capped turrets, most of my scopes I dial. Does anyone calculate for mpbr and zero rifles accordingly? Again I know most African shots are 150 or less. Thanks for your input.

Outside of my Mark V (used) in 270 Weatherby which has the mil reticle on my Zeiss scope, I sight in all of my rifles from my 270 Win, 7mm Rem Mag, 375 Weatherby Mag and my 500 Jeffery 2 1/2 " high at 100 yards. For my 270 Win and 7mm Rem Mag I know how much to hold over for 300, 400 and 500 yards. I don't shoot further than that anymore. Max range for my 500 Jeffery (for me at least) is 300 yards.

 

[Hogpatrol]

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Ballistica

115m shot.

 

[coreydb]

Shooterscalculator.com is a fill in the blank program that produces minimum zero and max point blank range based on your bullet G1 and its speed. Good starting point that should minimize ammo waste.

 

[grand veneur]

115m shot.

This is what long range shots with steep shooting angles are all about.

Anyone who occasionally has to shoot at longer distance than the usuals 50 to 100 yards, should regulate their rifles according to MPBR. We all agree on that, but in practice, other parameters come into play, especially in high mountains where the terrain has no resemblance to a shooting range. Steep shooting angles are one problem, but there are many others where the best MPBR regulation is not enough.

 

[grand veneur]

The theoretically best method for shooting accurately at different distances is to adjust the turrets of the scope after measuring the distance. This assumes that you have previously determinate the various settings at the shooting range. However, this method is only effective if you have the time and can concentrate on it. This can be difficult when hunting, as you sometimes have to shoot quickly and factors such as cold temperature, fatigue and high altitudes can also play a role. All of this can lead to serious errors when adjusting the scope. For this reason, this method does not seem advisable for hunting and MPBR is the better alternative.

 

[grand veneur]

When I still often participated in 1000 m shooting events, I used the turrets and worked my way up from 100 m to 1000 m.This way, I was prepared to shoot accurately on a specific terrain, but that does not work for hunting.

When hunting the shooting distances should always be a maximum of 500 yards, which is still possible after a MPBR zeroing, but not beyond that distance without a too great aiming compensation. Besides, for terminal ballistic reasons, one does not shoot at game at very long distance.

McMillan Talon 338 Lapua Magnum

 

[Tally-Ho HUNTING SAFARIS]

from a PH point of view...nothing worse then doing the work get into a good spot, put client on the sticks....and then the fiddling starts, focus this twist that turn here....just shoot man!!!!