Many cheap hunts vs only one very expensive premium hunt in a lifetime

I usually choose low price discount buffalo cow hunts because they are within my budget. Last hunt, as you know, I hunted 6 buffalo cows. Low price - hight value. It was a wonderful hunt.

For me, the attitude, ability and style of the PH, and the bush that we are hunting in are the most important. This includes the size of the fenced hunting area.

One thing that I didn't care for was the big screen TV running most of the time in the main lodge, usually on Fox news with the American hunters and some of the staff watching and discussing it.

The higher price hunts that I have been on never had that sort of thing. It's not their stye.
 
Unfortunately, those areas will be changing soon. Examples: in Serengeti NP, the government of Tanzania wants to build an international airport. In the Selous, part of it is now a lake with a Hydro dam (requires workers) and turn another large section into a National Park. Even more visitors and infrastructure.
All good reasons to go there soon.

It’s a long drive to SNP from Arusha unless you take a charter flight to the small airport that’s already there. If they build a bigger airport, it won’t impact any hunting.

Several of the outfitters in the Selous gave up their areas several years ago when the government auctioned them off with a high starting minimum bid so now the government has different ideas for those unhunted areas. Other areas in the Selous will stick with hunting. The Selous is great but other areas of TZ have unique plains game that the Selous does not. The same animals found in the Selous are found in Northern Mozambique as well but with the terrorist attacks in the Niassa Reserve, the Selous might become all the more important.

I don’t see that the Game Reserves in Northern, Western and Southwestern TZ will change much, so that’s good for a while, anyway. In 2027, we will be in both Lukwati North GR and Piti West GR that share a border and a camp on the border so we will have over 1000 square miles to hunt.
 
Through this site I have been enlightened to the cost of some hunts in the US. And the reasons some Americans hunt Africa regularly for affordable hunting.
Through this site I have met Aussies who have been and some who have not. I even met the Kiwi knife maker.
I have had online conversations with many experienced hunters who have done more than most of us could hope to and myself I have only been to South Africa once and I am happy shooting pests in the bush as often as I can and get satisfaction from doing it well taking clean shots dispatching as many as I can.
If I had a dream hunt I would work toward it but for now I’m all about the experiences doing as much as I can within reason.
 
Through this site I have been enlightened to the cost of some hunts in the US. And the reasons some Americans hunt Africa regularly for affordable hunting.
Through this site I have met Aussies who have been and some who have not. I even met the Kiwi knife maker.
I have had online conversations with many experienced hunters who have done more than most of us could hope to and myself I have only been to South Africa once and I am happy shooting pests in the bush as often as I can and get satisfaction from doing it well taking clean shots dispatching as many as I can.
If I had a dream hunt I would work toward it but for now I’m all about the experiences doing as much as I can within reason.
Well said …. Between my two trips to OZ I’ve spent 3 months on your big damn island and the hunting opportunities are remarkable.

Pigs, Brumbies, water Buffalo, Bantang, scrubbers, donkies, fox, camels, Sambar and on and on….. navigate the licenses and your able to enjoy a sportsman’s paradise - not to mention the fishing.

To each his own but you could spend a lifetime traveling OZ and if you took advantage of half the availability you would have bested many a man.
 
Highly personal question and everyone's different of course with funds and time available.

I myself, dreamt of the wild places. And did just that in 2018 for my first safari to Zim. Cost was more than fair. Alittle worse converted to CAD but worth every penny. If that's my only trip I ever get to do, I'd die happy knowing I experienced what I set out to do.

Obviously I don't poopoo others hunts. Everyone's got their own tastes and I would hunt lots in SA if funds allowed, but I would have to do my research to find fair chase places and large enough properties. Reading above someone mentioned the blacktop driving every morning to different properties really took the wild bush feel out for them, and I would agree.
 
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@grand veneur, there is no right or wrong answer to your question. I've taken multiple 'wild' hunts in Zim and Cameroon, and multiple 'fenced' hunts in South Africa, each have been wonderful experiences even though they were so drastically different.
 
Unfortunately, those areas will be changing soon. Examples: in Serengeti NP, the government of Tanzania wants to build an international airport. In the Selous, part of it is now a lake with a Hydro dam (requires workers) and turn another large section into a National Park. Even more visitors and infrastructure.
If they build a new airport in Serengeti NP, it won’t affect hunting much, if at all. The Maswa blocks all border the park on the far west and I believe the airport will be located toward the southern portion of the park, but I could be mistaken.

As for the Selous, the hunting portion of the Selous is only about 40% of the original size but it’s big, truly wild country. Lake Nyerere is huge, but that isn’t going to affect the hunting blocks beyond giving them really great crocodile hunting. Dry land hippos won’t be affected, but there will be more hippo hunting in the lake than before. All in all, the lake appears to be a net positive.
 
A lot to consider from all the responses.

I'm just going to add my very long 2 cents response to consider.

My first African safari was in 2017 to RSA; 7 days 9 days total for 5 animals and added 2 more. I felt the trip was more rushed than relaxing. As a first timer I felt the hunts were good and my trophies were well earned.

From experiences learned from my first trip my second trip in 2018 using the same RSA outfitter as in 2017 was for 10 hunting days, 12 days total, hunting 7 animals, with 2 days of sightseeing. This trip was much more relaxing and again I felt all my trophies were well earned.

My third trip was planned for 2019. Unfortunately Covid delayed my third trip till 2021. I wanted to see and experience other African countries and to hunt dangerous game the choice was to go to Zimbabwe for 12 hunting days, 14 days total and again to include another 12 hunting days, 14 days total to hunt with the same East Cape, RSA outfitter I hunted with in 2017 and 2018.

The Zimbabwe trip was an overall bad experience due to a bad outfitter/ PH. However, ivwas able to kill a cape buffalo and unfortunately, bad PH, a cow with a calf hippo.

A third trip to my previous outfitter in the East Cape, RSA was aauthentic second previous trip, relaxing and enjoyable with some sightseeing. On this trip a lot more memorable hunts for that included 5 packaged animals, 1 day of deep sea fishing, 1 additional animal, and 3 bonus animals with sightseeing days. This was another relaxing trip successfully hunting all quality animals.

A month ago I returned from a 40 day trip in modern Republic of South Africa. I hunted with 4 different outfitters in 3 different areas of RSA.

The first outfitter @HENRY GRIFFITHS SAFARIS, was in North West Province, 12 hunting days, 14 days total, my package was for 6 animals, added 3 trophy animals and 7 cull animals and 2 days of sightseeing. Included in the cull number is one wounded and lost animal. This was a very relaxing first leg. The package, the add-on package animals, and 3 of the cull animals were quality animals. All of the hunts were top notch with each animal hunted well earned.

The second outfitter was INFINITO Safaris in the Limpopo area. The primary hunts were for 5 different night animal species. Unfortunately, the late rains, full moon, the thick green bush and the lack of cooperation of 4 of the 5 species of night critters the night hunting was abandoned and we finished the last 2 days hunting daytime plains game animals. A total of 7 quality plains game trophy animals, 2 bonus plains game animals, and 5 bonus fowl were successfully hunted.

The third and fourth outfitters are in the same general area of the East Cape, RSA. Two different styles of hunting the general same type terrain.

The third outfitter was the KUBUSI SAFARIS. The initial package included 5 animals was changed. I ended up successfully hunting 7 IMO quality trophy animals and losing 1 wounded animal. Again these were top notch hunts over 11 days 13 days total.

The fourth and final outfitter on this trip was Settlers Safaris, 6 hunting days, 8 days total for 3 animals: 1 cull cow buffalo and 2 trophy waterbuck bulls: 1 successfully hunted and 1 wounded and lost.

Overall hunted totals: 41

Successfully Hunted Trophy and Bonus Animals: 38
Wounded Lost Animals: 3

I don’t have the exact total costs of the trip in front of me at the moment, but it was roughly rounded up between $38,000.00 to $40,000.00 USD including airfare and tips. I'm still waiting on my taxidermy estimate which I roughly calculated around $14,000.00 to $15,00.00 USD plus shipping.

I hunted several of the same species that I hunted on previous trips and a few multiple first time hunted species on this trip and some various color phases of the same species.

My reasons for doing such a long trip and perhaps doing future long trips vs short trips is being able to see more of the country, in this case RSA. And in the costs savings on airfare.

Consider airfare economy class at $1400.00 round trip. On an annual basis 1 short trip per year 4 years airfare alone is $5600.00 vs $1400.00 a savings of $4200.00. Factor in the savings of doing a mix of cull and trophy hunts vs trophy only hunts, checking the Deals and Offers Section here on the forum.

Sure I could have done a one area, 14 to 21 day total, 1 to 4 dangerous game animal hunt(s) or a mix DG & PG hunt(s) for the same costs.
 
I can 100% relate to what you say!

My first African hunt was a 24-day affair and we took a large bag that included leopard, 2 buffalo and an elephant bull as well as some excellent plains game. That was in 1983, on Zimbabwe’s Deka Safari Area. That still ranks as the most enjoyable month of my entire life. 42 years later, those memories still burn bright and I reminisce often.
I LOVE that! What an incredible way to make memories of your first Africa hunt!
 
Really interesting question. I guess it depends on the individual and maybe other factors. I’m in the camp of going sooner than later and it’s not necessary to do a DG hunt to enjoy African hunting.

About 30 years ago I spent all my savings to hunt the newly reopened Mozambique after the end of their civil war. The quarry was lioness, leopard, buffalo, hippo, crocodile and plains game. I think we were the 2nd hunting group to go there after it reopened. The internet didn’t exist back then really and let’s say there were some red flags I ignored.

It was a a combination of a grande thrilling adventure and unmitigated disaster all rolled into one starting with the PH getting kicked out of his concession the last minute and relocating to a less desirable one, with some life threatening encounters with the police & military, spending a lot in bribes to literally every government official we came across with constant threats of being arrested and thrown in jail in both Maputo and Vilankulos. I remember talking to a former Selous scout in Maputo, “just pay you don’t want to be in a Mozambique prison” he said with an ominous tone.

Huge relief to get the hell out of the cities, then every safari vehicle broke down, trekking 20 miles a day or more on foot to make the best of it, wading through parts of the Save River thinking about crocodiles, no food at times, camp staff mutinied, head PH Ray Millican got sick reoccurring bout with malaria, had to go to hospital or what they called one on the way out and I was honestly happy to make it out in one piece. These were just some highlights, there were many more. So forgive me when I read about other’s adventures in “wild Africa”, my thoughts are you had a nice trip to Disney Land. :). With all the information and knowledge available nowadays, I wouldn’t have gone nor would have any other member of that hunting group but it was one helluva of an adventure looking back.

Sorry, went off on a tangent. I think a lot may depend on your priorities, financial situation and age/health to name a few things. Also the ability to take advantage of specials and cancellation hunts. I’m doing just that, booking a non exportable bull elephant & buffalo hunt this year as we speak in the greater Kruger, or the “open area” to be politically correct, going in just 4 months because my situation allows me that flexibility to take advantage of a great deal.

I like what someone posted, you’re not promised tomorrow. I’ve taken this to heart and if it’s reasonable and doable, I’ll hunt wherever I can whether it be here in North America or anywhere in Africa if it’s within my ability to go and within my budget. Some AH members who’ve recounted their hunting experiences in Europe especially Eastern Europe have piqued my interest in hunting that region.

Anyways, if someone is able to just pull the trigger and get away to Africa, yes even a fenced concession in SA, and enjoy a challenging spot and stalk hunt for say kudu bull, well that is wonderful and nothing to be ashamed of. Not everyone desires or is able to spend 20, 30, 40, or 50k or more on DG hunts. Yes time allows you to save more but it can also be your enemy. I think there is a balance or nuance to it, but time marches on and stops for nobody with all it’s unintended consequences. I’m still very fit at 60 and feel I can do most anything I could do 30 years ago but I know it’s not going to last. I jokingly tell my wife and friends I’m aging in dog years now.

I don’t think on has to hunt a so called wild area to enjoy African hunting. If you can great but don’t wait too long and there’s plenty of great hunting in SA.
 
I tried your idea. Do one “cheaper” hunt, then dump money into a “BIG” hunt.
I did that , did both.
And have been back 14 times spending all I can gather up and regretting a dime spent…

Also, fly business class. It is worth it.
 
@grand veneur, there is no right or wrong answer to your question. I've taken multiple 'wild' hunts in Zim and Cameroon, and multiple 'fenced' hunts in South Africa, each have been wonderful experiences even though they were so drastically different.
Well said and my own experience!!!
 
When i first hunted in Africa I do not recall there was much hunting in South Africa. Consequently, i hunted all over that continent before i ventured into South Africa. Land owners have worked hard to provide good hunting there at affordable prices more hunters feel like spending. I have had good hunts there but must confess i like wilder country
 
I thought that I would add 3 points. My focus is on cape buffalo.

Cape buffalo on farm hunts are considered by many PH's to be trickier, harder to sneak up on and more dangerous that free range buffalo.

Many farm hunts are similar to free range hunts in that the bush is "wild" and you will seldom see or are aware of a fence. It depends a lot on your attitude/perception.

My wife and I would hunt for a week or so and then travel the country for a month or so. We would usually use a tour guide. We are interested in the culture and colonial history, especially battle fields.
Tour guides in RSA are very well trained and educated on the bush, birds and animals, and history.
Get guide who know the places less travelled.
 
Unfortunately my dreams are too expensive for me to realize unless I get lucky again. Today, after 2 plains game only safaris, and 2 dangerous game safaris in wild areas, I have almost no interest in a plains game only safari. That could change next week, next month, next year or 5 years from now.

I want to hunt dangerous game in wild areas. I’m booked for my first buffalo hunt in Matetsi Unit 2 in 2026. I don’t know just how “wild” it is, but they told me I had a good chance of hearing a lion roar, which I’m excited about. I have never heard a lion roar.

I do want to hunt some plains game, but only as add-ons to dangerous game hunts.

I would love to hunt some wild areas in Africa. I would love to hunt Nyae Nyae or Khaudum. Kazuma, Lunga Luswishi, or parts of Tanzania, but I doubt I’ll ever be able to afford those areas.

If I get the same or similar rush out of hunting buffalo as I did with elephant and leopard over hounds, I can see myself booking future buffalo hunts in as wild of areas as I can afford.

Fortunately for me I live anywhere from 300 yards to 15 miles from my hunting spots at home, so I get to hunt at home a LOT. That scratches my hunting itch pretty well. Now to just scratch the dangerous game itch. . . .
 
Unfortunately my dreams are too expensive for me to realize unless I get lucky again. Today, after 2 plains game only safaris, and 2 dangerous game safaris in wild areas, I have almost no interest in a plains game only safari. That could change next week, next month, next year or 5 years from now.

I want to hunt dangerous game in wild areas. I’m booked for my first buffalo hunt in Matetsi Unit 2 in 2026. I don’t know just how “wild” it is, but they told me I had a good chance of hearing a lion roar, which I’m excited about. I have never heard a lion roar.

I do want to hunt some plains game, but only as add-ons to dangerous game hunts.

I would love to hunt some wild areas in Africa. I would love to hunt Nyae Nyae or Khaudum. Kazuma, Lunga Luswishi, or parts of Tanzania, but I doubt I’ll ever be able to afford those areas.

If I get the same or similar rush out of hunting buffalo as I did with elephant and leopard over hounds, I can see myself booking future buffalo hunts in as wild of areas as I can afford.

Fortunately for me I live anywhere from 300 yards to 15 miles from my hunting spots at home, so I get to hunt at home a LOT. That scratches my hunting itch pretty well. Now to just scratch the dangerous game itch. . . .
You have a good chance of seeing lion daily there not just hearing a lion roar.
 
Tomorrow is never guaranteed ….

My first African Safari was to South Africa and in my mind it was a once in a lifetime trip that I never dreamed I’d get to take. Before even landing at JNB I had a 2nd hunt booked for a future year and jumped on a last minute deal for a buffalo while driving to the airport and I still treated it like it was my only hunt to Africa.

10 hunts later spanning multiple African countries and I’m starting to refine my hunting choices. Instead of the annual safari + western hunt + deer and turkeys in a few different states, I’m starting to consider one larger hunt every couple years. I’ve decided to support this by selling stuff I don’t need or use, continuing to fix and drive the old 03 Super Duty, and making other sacrifices. With that in mind, I’m writing this post en route to Zambia. I have a hunt planned to Coutada 11 with Zambeze Delta Safaris for next year (2026), and a sheep hunt in NWT planned for 2028. Will I plan a hunt for 2027? No idea but if I do it’ll likely be smaller, a western draw tag, or a cancellation opportunity.

Future dream hunts (no order)
#1 Redemption on a big Tom Leopard in Zim
Massailand
Buffalo in Uganda
Lord Derby Eland
Mountain Nyala
Bongo & Sitatunga
Greenland Muskox & Caribou
Alaska Moose
Mountain Goat
New Zealand for Tahr & Chamois
Spain for Ibex
Argentina for Stag or Doves

As you can see, my list lends itself to less frequent hunts in order to chase one much bigger target place or animal
 
Neat idea. I will absolutely need to space hunts out in order to go on these, in some cases take a few years off from a paid hunt.

Future dream hunts (no order)
Leopard/Buff in Zim - booked already
Free range stag in NZ
Interior Grizzly in AK- working on this now
Free range plains game in Namibia - booked already- Not really a dream hunt, but wanted to focus on a few specific animals
Coastal Brown Bear
Dall Sheep
Yukon Moose
Ibex in Kyrgyzstan
Mountain goat
Lion/Buff in the Luganzo Game Reserve
 
@bakerb, I hunted Matesi 2 last year and we heard lions roaring most nights. Saw a buffalo kill as well. Never saw one while out hunting but they are there for sure. The buffalo I shot was covered in scars on his back from lions. Had a great hunt and wouldn’t hesitate to go back at some point in the future.
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