Making a smokeless 8-bore cartridge

matt85

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I was sitting around bored today and decided it might be fun to make a small tutorial of how I make cartridges for my 8-bore 3.25" double rifle. Use at your own risk!

1. I start with a primed 3.25" case and 67gr of Alliant Blue Dot.
powder charge.jpg


2. Next is four 1/2" cushion wads, three overshot cards, and one 1/8" nitro card. This stack-up is simply what I found got the bullet to sit properly at the top of the case and has not been tweaked for accuracy reasons. These are pressed over the powder using tools included in the 8-bore load kit from RMC. A simple dowel would work as well but getting the thick cushion wads started can be a little difficult.
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3. For the projectile I typically use the 84-1200 mold from Accurate Molds. Mine was customized to produce a 0.850" bullet. I also have a push through sizing die that was custom made for me by a gentleman off another forum. The alloy I'm currently using (random scrap lead) is producing 0.849" bullets weighing it at 1240gr.
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4. For seating the bullet, I simply put a little Duco Cement around the forward driving band and push the bullets in by hand. I haven't tested this glue extensively, but the idea is to prevent the bullet from shifting under recoil instead of crimping. I got the idea from a black powder cartridge forum and have been testing it in recent loads. Here is the final result:
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Lastly here is a picture of the assorted components used in the making of this cartridge:
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Fantastic thank you for posting that info, I only load black in my 8Ga shotguns so far as wads are a real hassle to get in NZ.

Been going to build a 8bore rifle on a shotgun action for over 10yrs have barrels & kiln gun cases (what I use in my shotguns as well) & RB mould I was going to use Nitro in this as it will be a bit lighter & the Nitro has a bit less recoil, even less with the 850gr or so RB load .
 
Fantastic thank you for posting that info, I only load black in my 8Ga shotguns so far as wads are a real hassle to get in NZ.

Been going to build a 8bore rifle on a shotgun action for over 10yrs have barrels & kiln gun cases (what I use in my shotguns as well) & RB mould I was going to use Nitro in this as it will be a bit lighter & the Nitro has a bit less recoil, even less with the 850gr or so RB load .

a ball over smokeless powder produces pretty mild recoil. I have tried the same 67gr Blue Dot load under a 0.853" ball with some success. But the terminal performance of an 8-bore ball load isn't great. So, I haven't put much effort in creating a good load.
 

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