Lion hunted illegally allegedly

[Sideshow]

Research lion killed in 'unethical' alleged trophy hunt shooting - BBC News

Blondie, who was the subject of an Oxford University study, is thought to have been killed in Zimbabwe.

www.bbc.co.uk

Don’t know much at this stage. But I’d be weary of this one as it’s Oxford university again. Which was the same crowd involved with the Cecil the lion debacle.

 

[Excessexpress]

Oxford don’t have a concern with hunting, it’s the anti hunting activists who are making up this garbage and seeking to gain $ from it.

 

[375Fox]

I don’t think anymore details than this are needed.

“Our rangers were present. All paperwork was in order. Collars are for research purposes, but they don't make the animal immune to hunting”

 

[DieJager]

“Our rangers were present. All paperwork was in order. Collars are for research purposes, but they don't make the animal immune to hunting”

This is the end of the case.

Those antis just want to start a new round of import bans, decimating wildlife but who cares if you can virtue signal.

Also people still quoting the BBC. BBC is a hostile network infiltrated with perverse people and terrorist sympathizers. Yes that are funded by the government but is is a truly left-wing network. Only propaganda nothing more.

 

[grand veneur]

It may be that a lion with a collar was legally shot, but since we all know what international indignation that would cause, I would not do such a thing. If the identity of the hunter becomes known, he won't be able to live a peaceful life for the next time, as it did with the Cecil affair in 2015.

 

[DieJager]

It may be that a lion with a collar was legally shot, but since we all know what international indignation that would cause, I would not do such a thing. If the identity of the hunter becomes known, he won't be able to live a peaceful life for the next time, as it did with the Cecil affair in 2015.

Depends where he is from. Anything outside the West and nobody gives a damn.

 

[375Fox]

It may be that a lion with a collar was legally shot, but since we all know what international indignation that would cause, I would not do such a thing. If the identity of the hunter becomes known, he won't be able to live a peaceful life for the next time, as it did with the Cecil affair in 2015.

It’s a sad state when Africa gets small, but when they collar every single lion as an anti-hunting tactic in some areas what do you do? It’s not the lion hunt I’d want but just giving up and letting them win isn’t a solution either. Researchers are good at putting collars on not taking collars off.

If a hunt adds conservation value to an area it’s a hunt that can be defended. One or two lions on a sustainable quota adds a lot of conservation dollars to areas adjacent parks. Not an ideal solution either, but these organizations do have the option of buying the hunt/quota if they object to lion hunting that strongly, but collars are cheaper.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

It may be that a lion with a collar was legally shot, but since we all know what international indignation that would cause, I would not do such a thing. If the identity of the hunter becomes known, he won't be able to live a peaceful life for the next time, as it did with the Cecil affair in 2015.

I agree. Shooting a lion wearing a collar is asking for trouble. We don't need the headache. What kind of outfitter/PH couldn't see that? Gotta be other lions to shoot.

As to the Cecil affair, as I understand it the PH/outfitter engaged in some unsavory practices to lure him out of the park?

Shooting stuff over bait always makes us an easy target. One reason I won't do it. I appreciate that baiting can be a necessary management tool in some situations but it has a stigma attached. Easily made to appear unethical.

Apparently the lion was shot at night. I appreciate that shooting leopard at night over bait is about the only way to manage them but this is definitely not what I call lion hunting whether it's legal or not.

 

[mark-hunter]

It’s a sad state when Africa gets small, but when they collar every single lion as an anti-hunting tactic in some areas what do you do? It’s not the lion hunt I’d want but just giving up and letting them win isn’t a solution either. Researchers are good at putting collars on not taking collars off.

I wonder what would happen if a collared lion became a man-eater or cattle killer?

 

[revturbo9967]

I agree. Shooting a lion wearing a collar is asking for trouble. We don't need the headache. What kind of outfitter/PH couldn't see that? Gotta be other lions to shoot.

As to the Cecil affair, as I understand it the PH/outfitter engaged in some unsavory practices to lure him out of the park?

Shooting stuff over bait always makes us an easy target. One reason I won't do it. I appreciate that baiting can be a necessary management tool in some situations but it has a stigma attached. Easily made to appear unethical.

Apparently the lion was shot at night. I appreciate that shooting leopard at night over bait is about the only way to manage them but this is definitely not what I call lion hunting whether it's legal or not.

Cecil was feeding on a giraffe that was killed by a train outside of the park. The hunting party set up over that as a bait and the hunter made a not so perfect shot and the lion went back into the park. Nothing illegal was found.

 

[Philip Glass]

Research lion killed in 'unethical' alleged trophy hunt shooting - BBC News

Blondie, who was the subject of an Oxford University study, is thought to have been killed in Zimbabwe.

www.bbc.co.uk

Don’t know much at this stage. But I’d be weary of this one as it’s Oxford university again. Which was the same crowd involved with the Cecil the lion debacle.

Cecil scam all over again. If they set foot out of the park, collar or no collar, they are fair game. These researchers think they own animals that they collar. They do not!

 

[AZDAVE]

I said it in 2015 so will say it again. If the guy that shot cecil, had just walked up to a microphone when some dumb reporter shoved it in his face (If he hadn't been a woose and went into hiding) and Just said was a legally conducted hunt. the cat was Blank number of miles outside the park in a hunting concession. Plus no 10+ year old lion has a pride, study your biology and animal behavior before you say something that stupid. So if you have no further uninformed questions mr reporter have a nice F-ing day. The whole mess would have blown over in a news cycle. unfortunately he had the balls of an anemic mouse, and we are still dealing with crap.

The anti's are just looking for the next thing to be offended about so they can solicit more money that going into their pockets vs to help the wild life.

 

[DieJager]

Can a moderator please change the title? It is crystal clear it was a legal hunt. No need to keep this fire burning.

 

[Russ16]

The hunt was legal. I do wonder what the true age of the lion was. In researching lion hunts I’ve seen that the PHs spend a lot of time to be sure it is an old lion that doesn’t have a pride with cubs. That seems a big disparity from the claims it was 5-6 years old.

 

[TnKen]

A collared animal doesn’t mean it is protected. Waterfowl in the US are targeted for their bands/collars. The department that attaches the bands even sends a certificate to you when you report the kill. Collared big game in the US is also reported to the department that did it and they will give you the info from it. As everyone stated, the story is pure anti hunting propaganda. You are even supposed to be sad the lion had a family.

 

[Sideshow]

Can a moderator please change the title? It is crystal clear it was a legal hunt. No need to keep this fire burning.

That’s why I put allegedly in the title! Not trying to stir trouble. And if the moderators want to change the title that’s fine by me.
But I felt this was news worthy for our community. Good or bad. I did notice at the bottom of the article that there is also a link to this article.

Scientists: Banning trophy hunting 'doesn't protect animals'

A group of scientists have said a blanket ban on trophy hunting imports may not help conservation.

www.bbc.com

Which is good better a more balanced.

Most know that the whole Cecil thing was a stitch up as it was a legal hunt and no prosecution was ever brought.

 

[RLD]

That’s why I put allegedly in the title! Not trying to stir trouble. And if the moderators want to change the title that’s fine by me.
But I felt this was news worthy for our community. Good or bad. I did notice at the bottom of the article that there is also a link to this article.

Scientists: Banning trophy hunting 'doesn't protect animals'

A group of scientists have said a blanket ban on trophy hunting imports may not help conservation.

www.bbc.com

Which is good better a more balanced.

Most know that the whole Cecil thing was a stitch up as it was a legal hunt and no prosecution was ever brought.

But how could the BBC publish a balanced piece on the issue? They are all terrorist sympathetic lefties don’t you know?

 

[DieJager]

That’s why I put allegedly in the title! Not trying to stir trouble. And if the moderators want to change the title that’s fine by me.
But I felt this was news worthy for our community. Good or bad. I did notice at the bottom of the article that there is also a link to this article.

Scientists: Banning trophy hunting 'doesn't protect animals'

A group of scientists have said a blanket ban on trophy hunting imports may not help conservation.

www.bbc.com

Which is good better a more balanced.

Most know that the whole Cecil thing was a stitch up as it was a legal hunt and no prosecution was ever brought.

No jab at you. Clearly good to let the article been seen. Just the title is clearly wrong. The article clearly stated the Zimbabwean authorities said it was a legal hunt. So there is no allegedly illegal hunt.

 

[Flbt]

It may be that a lion with a collar was legally shot, but since we all know what international indignation that would cause, I would not do such a thing. If the identity of the hunter becomes known, he won't be able to live a peaceful life for the next time, as it did with the Cecil affair in 2015.

No difference between it and a duck bann
And I know a lot of duck hunters that want the bann

 

[Finprof]

Here is a photo of Blondie the lion. The photo was taken about 2 miles outside of the park in Hunt Unit 1. The collar is easily visible.
The story about the lion being lured out of the park is bogus. There was no bait or any other kind of meat anywhere near.
This photo was taken July 9 in daylight about 15 minutes before sunset. The lion walked across the trail right in front of the Land Cruiser and then stretched out lying on the ground 20 yards away.
It would have been a bit too easy to shoot him. I asked the PH the amount if the trophy fee. He said $35,000.