Let’s be honest….accuracy off the sticks

Here’s a video of me taking 15 animals from 20 to 420 yards with quad sticks in Eastern Cape last year. Average shot was over 250 yards. Only change I would make is I had a habit of putting my finger on the side of the barrel which caused slight (a few inches) horizontal stringing. Noticed this after watching the video. Only issue I had was my PH wanted to buy them but after all the work he put in I added them to the cash tip.

Actually, you do have them right! :)

You had me confused when you initially wrote:
I place the front Y of quad behind the front sling post on the rifle

I thought you were referring to the only Y: the rear Y (the front being a small shelf).

I am personally not touching the barrel or sticks, and simply hold the rifle forend from under it, the same way I would do offhand.

Works well enough to keep me well under 2 MOA routinely.

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4", 3" and 2" 'plates' at 100 yards. .22 LR Blaser R8, Eley Club ammo, 4StableSticks quad sticks.

I guess that I could try to cut a 1" 'plate', but it was enough of a grind (pun fully intended) to make a 2" one :E Rofl:

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Congratulations on the new Blaser, you will not regret it :)
 
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I can’t believe I’m the only one that has had them spread on me…I will say some models I’ve seen have a string or shock cord limiting the distance??
 
I can’t believe I’m the only one that has had them spread on me…I will say some models I’ve seen have a string or shock cord limiting the distance??

Just to be sure... You do not regulate the height of the stick by spreading them front/rear, right?
The proper use is to spread them to the maximum front/rear (so that they cannot spread more), and then use the right/left spread to regulate height.
 
Just to be sure... You do not regulate the height of the stick by spreading them front/rear, right?
The proper use is to spread them to the maximum front/rear (so that they cannot spread more), and then use the right/left spread to regulate height.
Just to be sure I’m right, I’m going to check, but don’t believe there is anything to limit front to back spread on the 4 stable sticks….
BRB
 
Just to be sure I’m right, I’m going to check, but don’t believe there is anything to limit front to back spread on the 4 stable sticks….
BRB

On mine, the foot brackets allow only about 25 to 30 degree opening, hence limiting the spread.

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Of course, if you lean heavily / brutally on them you will break the plastic moldings or the carbon legs - this thing is engineered to be super light - but it seems to be strong enough to hold the rifle and limit the front/rear spread of the sticks. In any case, I have two pairs, and my wife and I have been using them extensively for a couple years without issue.
 
Ok, so yes, they do only spread so far…but it’s further than the fore end.
I mean it’s not that big an issue, just something different from a tripod version. I just need some more time.

My practice rifle is slick laminate with no checkering. If it weren’t for the swivel stud, I would have to fight it all the time.

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Ok, so yes, they do only spread so far…but it’s further than the fore end.
I mean it’s not that big an issue, just something different from a tripod version. I just need some more time.

My practice rifle is slick laminate with no checkering. If it weren’t for the swivel stud, I would have to fight it all the time.

I guess that I did not fully realize how much the Schnabel forend blocked the spread of the sticks with the R8 stock (and the bipod attachment tip certainly does, now that I added one), and apparently too, the plastic of the Blaser stock is less slippery than other finishes...

Since, as we all know, resting the barrel itself on the sticks is a no-no for consistent accuracy, it seems that a piece of nylon strap or string to tie front & rear legs, and limit the front/rear spread can be your solution...

In any case, I am happy that the solution many of us recommended: move from tripod to quadpod, also worked for you :)
 
Ok, so yes, they do only spread so far…but it’s further than the fore end.
I mean it’s not that big an issue, just something different from a tripod version. I just need some more time.

My practice rifle is slick laminate with no checkering. If it weren’t for the swivel stud, I would have to fight it all the time.

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I am assuming you have it resting on the barrel for picture purposes but in case you don't know resting on the barrel can really mess up barrel harmonics and throw shots off by feet.
 
Yeah, mine neither. The front shelf on mine is covered with a thick non-slide rubber that is quite effective. Also, having them already spread at their maximum front/rear helps.
My current one is just like my old one I gifted to my PH. It grips the leather R8, Plastic Tikka stock, McMillian fiberglass and my Sako wood stock all equally well.
 
I can’t believe I’m the only one that has had them spread on me…I will say some models I’ve seen have a string or shock cord limiting the distance??
I saw those but seems like something else to get caught on the bush at the wrong time. The 4 stable sticks work perfect for me.
 
I cannot speak to how good or bad I feel I am or really where I stand amongst others. Rather, I think it's better to highlight things I've learned practicing off sticks and then going to Africa.

First, I think the biggest rookie mistake is over-focusing on grouping. I made this mistake. I practiced, had 3"-4" groupings, all about where they should be on paper. To OP's point: I was overfocused on the grouping. I wasn't happy nor confident. In my mind I thought I should be shooting 2" groups like someone prone from a bipod. 3-4" grouping at the right spot on the animal, is likely, a dead animal. 3-4" variance on the kill zone on a kudu is likely still in the kill zone with 8-10" margins on each side. Eventually, I got to about 2-3" groupings at 100 yds and still wasn't happy. When I got there, I realized I was definitely prepped. 100 yds I feel is plenty, which is another topic.

Second, I only had three shots from the sticks and they were at 50-60 yds. I had a pretty tricky shot from the truck on a warthog over cows/through fences, and my hardest shot was 100 yds hand resting on the metal post of a blind, 12' off the ground. Practicing at 200 yds is impressive. Is it really necessary? I can't say. I guess if you can get a shot that far and make it, more power to you. We couldn't see more than 100 yds in spots. If you feel that making a 200 yd off the sticks shot on paper will better prep you both realistically, and mentally, I guess go for it. I've heard of shots 200 yds or more from sticks and I believe it. I have no reason to doubt that. Then, it brings into question, is it a shot you really needed to take? Or could you have gotten closer? I am sure there are arguments for both but I am not opening that can of worms. I watched a video where a gentleman couldn't get more than 200 yds from a zebra they were taking. He did a phenomenal job and downed it in one shot from 200 yds. So I guess there are definitely cases where its necessary.

Third, I found out really quick in RSA that not all your shots are off sticks. The hardest shot I had to make was on a kudu, 100 yds, quartering away, with my hand resting on a blind to stabilize the fore end of the rifle, kneeling. My PH said after he could hear the rifle clanging on the post as I was shaking and was the reason why he told me to breathe. If you asked me if that was in my bingo card before going, I'd probably have said no. You might have to rest on a tree in the thick stuff or even shoot off hand for a follow up shot. I think you definitely should practice off sticks, but thinking that's your only shot, is a bit misguided.

Fourth, I'll stick my neck out on. My God people overcomplicate the sticks. 4 post, 3 post, etc. I had a Primos trigger stick I practiced with and lucky me, it was the same thing my PH had. If you are going to be bringing sticks to Africa, then yes, buy something that fits you like a glove. Practice with it, practice more, and have at it. I think buying $400 sticks and then arriving to find the PH has a $100 Primos trigger stick or three bamboo poles lashed together is a bit of a goof up. But like I said, if you want to bring your preferred sticks with you, have at it.
 

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