MacD37 said:
"It is my opinion that Danilocf is not only misinformed but is a child as well, and getting through to him is like, as someone said earlier, banging you head against a brick wall. This young man has some citified ideas as to what hunting is all about, and equates hunting with money and shooting. What he is leaving out is the HUNTING part! The concept of HUNTING is as foreign to him as if he were from MARS. "
I let someone nervous! The forum is about lion hunting. Show me lions who walk miles at no fences area if they have enough food near them.
Danilocf, it is easy to see that English is not your first language, and I think we are loosing something in the translation, in both directions. If I'm misunderstanding you then I apologies, but I think I have your opinion down correctly.
Wild lion don't have to travel long distances in a straight line as in migrating, to avoid a hunter. Once he realizes he is being followed he may make several changes in directions, or even leave the pride all together if he is a pride member. If he happens to be a satellite male he may simply take off and out distance you, or take cover in rocks or very dense bush/high grass and wait for you when he gets tired. These tactics are not easy in an enclosure, because sooner or later he is going to get in a corner where he has no place else to run.
The problem with high electric double fenced lion the young lions have to be separated from the adult lions, or the males in the enclosure will kill them, and because of this these young lions have to be cared for by humans till they are old enough to fend for themselves. They become imprinted on humans and become dependant on them for food. This is bad because once turned out in an enclosure, when they hear human voices, or the approaching hunting car they come to the sound expecting food. The exact opposite is true of a wild lion. He hears a vehicle or human voices he hides and if those sounds get too close he runs to avoid them.
You seem to think baiting is not hunting, but shooting a lion that has been conditioned to come to human sounds, is! That is an amazing thought process to say the least!
A wild lion my come to one of ten baits you set, and they can't be just set any old place, but requires some intelligence and knowledge of lions to know where these baits are best placed. Even then if the lion and/or leopard comes to one of the baits you may not be at that bait when he does. Additionally he may come in after shooting hours are over, and leave before it is legal to shoot, for all the days you have and you go home without even a shot at a lion. That is the difference between HUNTING, and SHOOTING! A sure thing is not HUNTING. That is what I meant in my post about having only considered the money spent, for as shortest time spent there, and the shooting of a lion, and you seem to forget the HUNTING altogether!
As I and others have said many times if that is what you want to do, the do it, but don't make the mistake that because you went home with a lion trophy that you have also experienced lion HUNTING, because you could do the same thing you did in a zoo, if they'd let you!
SO, shoot a lion in a cage and be happy, but do not try to convince anyone who hunts for real, that your lion was fair chase, any more than it would be if you paid the taxidermist to gas a zoo lion and mount it for you and ship it to you, at home, so you didn't have to fly to Africa, or even drive to the zoo!
............................BYE now! I'll leave you with your opinions because I don't see you changing your mind, no matter what anyone says to you.