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Found another video. Different advice from what I'd heard about taking the rifle from the shoulder to reload.
I think the most important thing is to practice until you eliminate possible problem areas. There are weaknesses to any second shot technique, and strengths as well. Here you have to remount the rifle.Found another video. Different advice from what I'd heard about taking the rifle from the shoulder to reload.
Interesting....
I was taught to keep it shouldered and to not bring the head up even, to keep looking through the scope.
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If I did that on the new .416 I'd have that 8 inch bolt into my right eye when I brought it back.
(no scope)
Have you tried it? I bet it doesn't hit although without a scope if you're far enough up on the rifle perhaps it does, especially for you personally...........
ha ha ha, yep... but the LOP can be fixed...Being short finally has an advantage!![]()
Found another video. Different advice from what I'd heard about taking the rifle from the shoulder to reload.
I can only imagine the observations are correct about short stroking the bolt.
"Open it with authority"
Whatever the rationale.
That moment it takes to drop that gun to reload works for me. Shotgun or rifle.
The hard part will be training yourself to keep your eye on the target while working the bolt.
If you change your DG gun often then you may have an issue with 'short stroking' presuming you're changing from short to long action ( .458 WM to .375H&H) for example. If you go the other way round you shouldn't have the problem. Practice and 'presence of mind' are key.
We have a 'Panterror' charging Lion target system at the range ( covering 2m/s) and if you have to dismount the rifle from your shoulder to reload for the second shot.. you're gonna get eaten..as it were. We start it at 20m and one may only fire once it gets to 10m (giving it time to build up the charge speed.) the starting position is rifle held at 'port arms' as you would on a DG follow up - safety on. Guys dismounting the rifle to reload can seldom get it back up for the second shot before the frame hits your feet.
The way I was taught and it has kept me with a whole skin over the years is to: Keep the rifle shoulder mounted, shoot with both eyes open - as you should!-, lift your head away from the action keeping the rifle mounted, work the bolt 'with authority' keeping your eyes on the prey...head back down and fire.
With the rifle mounted, should you have a tight ('hard) extraction', you have more leverage with the rifle up against something solid to pull against. I've seen bolts pulled back with not enough force to eject the case but causing the rifle to twist in the shooters hands.
At the next proficiency exams, I'll have some video taken for comments and discussion. Our Learner PH"s and Guides have about as much gun handling (most likely less) as the average guy on this forum... given the cost and availability of ammo locally.
I short stroked the bolt of my Guide Gun on my elephant hunt. Thank goodness the bull was already down and dead. The last round in the magazine got crossed up and it took me a few seconds to clear and reload.
Frankly I had not practiced reloading that quickly before the trip.
If you change your DG gun often then you may have an issue with 'short stroking' presuming you're changing from short to long action ( .458 WM to .375H&H) for example. If you go the other way round you shouldn't have the problem. Practice and 'presence of mind' are key.
We have a 'Panterror' charging Lion target system at the range ( covering 2m/s) and if you have to dismount the rifle from your shoulder to reload for the second shot.. you're gonna get eaten..as it were. We start it at 20m and one may only fire once it gets to 10m (giving it time to build up the charge speed.) the starting position is rifle held at 'port arms' as you would on a DG follow up - safety on. Guys dismounting the rifle to reload can seldom get it back up for the second shot before the frame hits your feet.
The way I was taught and it has kept me with a whole skin over the years is to: Keep the rifle shoulder mounted, shoot with both eyes open - as you should!-, lift your head away from the action keeping the rifle mounted, work the bolt 'with authority' keeping your eyes on the prey...head back down and fire.
With the rifle mounted, should you have a tight ('hard) extraction', you have more leverage with the rifle up against something solid to pull against. I've seen bolts pulled back with not enough force to eject the case but causing the rifle to twist in the shooters hands.
At the next proficiency exams, I'll have some video taken for comments and discussion. Our Learner PH"s and Guides have about as much gun handling (most likely less) as the average guy on this forum... given the cost and availability of ammo locally.
I short stroked the bolt of my Guide Gun on my elephant hunt. Thank goodness the bull was already down and dead. The last round in the magazine got crossed up and it took me a few seconds to clear and reload.
Frankly I had not practiced reloading that quickly before the trip.