History and comparison of the 35 Whelen to the 30-06 and 375 H&H

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Obviously, 35 Whelen is popular. I wonder, why no factory makes ammo for 35 Whelen?

@mark-hunter
Remington, federal and buffalo bore to name a few and don't forget nisler and hornaday.
Bob

 

[mark-hunter]

@Bob Nelson 35Whelen
Thanks for enlightment,
I was lead by earlier post for the need to reload for 35 whelen owners!

 

[Forrest Halley]

@Bob Nelson 35Whelen
Thanks for enlightment,
I was lead by earlier post for the need to reload for 35 whelen owners!

It's like the .45-70: castrated by the factory.

 

[mdwest]

Obviously, 35 Whelen is popular. I wonder, why no factory makes ammo for 35 Whelen?

Lots of companies make factory ammo for it in the US.. Barnes, Hornady, Remington, Federal, Nosler, Buffalo Bore, and a few others..

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[Nevada Mike]

Obviously, 35 Whelen is popular. I wonder, why no factory makes ammo for 35 Whelen?

Do you mean companies like Hornady, Federal, Remington, Nosler, Barnes, etc.?

 

[mark-hunter]

I was more focused to european ammo factories like: sako, rws, geco, ppu, s&b, not producing 35whelen.. But what lead me to this question was more because someone earlier mentioned the necessity for handloading for 35 whelen. (?!) Knowing that european factories dont make this cartridge, I asked this question.

Being quoted for the same, third time in a row, I wonder who will qoute me next?

 

[Forrest Halley]

Obviously, 35 Whelen is popular. I wonder, why no factory makes ammo for 35 Whelen?

Plenty of factory ammunition out there...

I was more focused to european ammo factories like: sako, rws, geco, ppu, s&b, not producing 35whelen.. But what lead me to this question was more because someone earlier mentioned the necessity for handloading for 35 whelen. (?!) Knowing that european factories dont make this cartridge, I asked this question.

Being quoted for the same, third time in a row, I wonder who will qoute me next?

I'll be your huckleberry!

There's nothing else better to do right now.

 

[John Wasmuth]

Lots of commercial.35 Whalen ammunition makers out there.

 

[Bonk]

My local Sportsman's Warehouse had a couple of boxes of 35 Whelen on the shelf today. I almost bought them just in case I might need them someday. Unfortunately, they were limiting everyone to only 2 boxes period. So I got my daily allotment of 7x64 Brenneke instead.

 

[mark-hunter]

I never suspected I will make a snowball effect, with so simple question I made!!!!!

 

[Forrest Halley]

I never suspected I will make a snowball effect, with so simple question I made!!!!!

It's because it was about the .35 Whelan. We use those threads fro general stress relief and comedic value. There are a few champions of the chambering and the rest of us hose them down for fun.

In all fairness, we did learn that there is a lack of European manufacturing in this caliber. I suspect it's because the 9.3 is so much more useful...

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

It's like the .45-70: castrated by the factory.

@Forrest Halley
Young Forrest the 45/70was not castrated by thr factory. It was loaded to suit the weapons of the time. As metallurgy improved the round stayed back in the old pressures. It is not viable for companies to make 3 different pressures rounds. There is always some idiot that would buy a high pressure round suited for say a ruger and use it in his trapdoor, so they play it safe.
Bob

 

[John Wasmuth]

Much like the 8mm Mauser.

 

[mark-hunter]

In all fairness, we did learn that there is a lack of European manufacturing in this caliber. I suspect it's because the 9.3 is so much more useful...

Most probably.
What I have learnt, it can be a cultural difference.

What 35 whelen is for american market and factories, is the same what 9.3x62 is for euroepan brands and market.

Europeans dont make rifles in 35, just as it is rare to find american rifle in 9.3. Same for factory ammo.
For me, very interesting finding.

However, 30-06 bridges the cultural gap! on both sides of the pond!
I can not find similar european rifle caliber accepted in US. But pistol caliber 9x19 (european), is accepted on both continents - masivelly. (not a rifle caliber, but...)

 

[ldmay375]

Don't know why I haven't seen this previously, so I'll chime in now. As a general rule I avoid shooting anything that has "Magnum" in its name. Do I own magnums, the answer is yes several as a matter of fact. But for my normal hunting needs I.e. White Tail deer and Hogs at woods ranges I'm quite content with non-magnum calibers. I get 2730 FPS and sub MOA pushing a 225 Gr. Barnes out of my 35 Whelen. Which BTW is simply a re-barreled '03 Springfield. My 35 Whelen has been to Africa twice and acquitted itself very nicely, while the magnums sat home in the safe.

I do not own a 35 Whelen. But, do think it is a very good cartridge. That 225 TSX at 2700 FPS should be an impressive load for sizable critters.

 

[Nevada Mike]

Mark Hunter

There are several European cartridges in fairly wide use in the USA... the 7X57 and the 6.5X55 are examples. Of course, they are not was popular as the .30-'06, but nothing else is either.

Acceptance of European cartridges in the USA all depends on what the American rifle manufacturers choose to chamber their rifles for.

Then there is the .375 H&H... is Great Britain part of Europe these days?

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I do not own a 35 Whelen. But, do think it is a very good cartridge. That 225 TSX at 2700 FPS should be an impressive load for sizable critters.

@Idmay375
A 225gn at 2,900fps is even more of a good thing in the Whelen.
For more punch a 250gr at 2,700fps or
A 275gn at 2,500fps.
Take your pick and have fun
Bob

 

[Tbitty]

@mark-hunter Taking a little different approach to answer the original question ...
the main reason for the "need" to handload is performance related. Most factory ammunition is lackluster in velocity and the cartridge can be significantly improved. Comparatively, common calibers like the .308 or .30-06 have so many options available you're bound to find several that work for your rifle and perform at similar levels as what handloads can do.

 

[Gerald Boyd]

Nosler and Buffalo Bore both carry quality Whelen loads!!!

 

[mark-hunter]

. is Great Britain part of Europe these days?

Hmmm... good question, I dont know!
I always thought UK was the 51st state, of the US.