Great buffalo video …. Lessons learned

You saw that was a 416 he used?
The film guy (PH too?) interviewed said client shot it initially with 416 Rem. Not sure what caliber the double was but barrels did not appear to be very thick. Maybe I missed that in the discussion.

I gotta say, the dust flying from PH's finishing shot looked well back and to the left of spine. I'm surprised it dropped the buff dead. Maybe just the camera angle? Doesn't seem to me to be a particularly vital area?
 
Could anyone tell if client's only shot with double rifle hit the bull? Looked like it missed.
 
I'd say it's because A. CMS are a big outfitter (inc the biggest in Zim) with a large team of (top class) PHs and B. they have a lot of hunts filmed

I've also noticed that Zim, in general, has a lot of charges. Buff, elephant, lion, etc. It seems like a truly wild place which says a lot.

I am really leaning towards Zim for a buff hunt, whenever that is.

Might be a case of being careful for what I wish for but, I don't want to shoot an animal that's been raised in a pen. I want a true wild animal. Zim seems to definitely provide that.
 
I don’t think it had anything to do with reloading. Many people look for an excuse to use a double. The final insurance shot in this situation looks like it would be a pretty safe opportunity and quickly proved wrong. I think that’s lesson learned I take from this. Don’t switch to a rifle you are unfamiliar with. I was thinking of the scene from movie ghost in darkness when he couldn’t shoot lion because he took an unfamiliar rifle.
I believe the Kirk Douglas line to Val Kilmer was…
“ You went into battle with an unproven rifle?!”

The rifle missfired in that scene.

Regardless of familiarity he should have reloaded the bolt gun but his father was all to happy to hand him the double and take the empty bolt gun.

So father is holding an empty bolt gun for which he has no ammo and son is holding a double he has no experience with and no ammo to reload with.

He had all the time in the world to reload that bolt gun though.
 
I believe the Kirk Douglas line to Val Kilmer was…
“ You went into battle with an unproven rifle?!”

The rifle missfired in that scene.

Regardless of familiarity he should have reloaded the bolt gun but his father was all to happy to hand him the double and take the empty bolt gun.

So father is holding an empty bolt gun for which he has no ammo and son is holding a double he has no experience with and no ammo to reload with.

He had all the time in the world to reload that bolt gun though.
I thought client fired only three shots with the bolt rifle. That means at least one round remained (maybe two if the magazine was extended). So it was not totally empty when handed to his father.
 
A brain shot stops all. As a kid growing up on the farm we processed our own beef and those of neighbors and even their hogs. At age 10, I became the shooter with a Winchester 22LR and all
but one thru the years ever required a 2nd shot. I've shot several buffalo, one a brain shot.
When I watch videos like this, I wonder why I'm so addicted and when I reach 25 of these big guys
I think I'll be able to say, "I'm just starting to become an experienced Buffalo Hunter"
IF I LIVE THAT LONG.
 
I don’t think it had anything to do with reloading. Many people look for an excuse to use a double. The final insurance shot in this situation looks like it would be a pretty safe opportunity and quickly proved wrong. I think that’s lesson learned I take from this. Don’t switch to a rifle you are unfamiliar with. I was thinking of the scene from movie ghost in darkness when he couldn’t shoot lion because he took an unfamiliar rifle.
Another lesson is don't approach any downed DG animal from the front. I would have swung out to the left to get broadside to that buffalo while it was down. Premature celebration as well with the buffalo obscured by the bush.
 
AMAZING how quickly that buffalo got to its feet and was charging. If the shooter had place the finishers from more to the right, not only would the angle to the vitals be improved, but he would have seen the bull get up sooner. Agree with Scott about any approach from the front.

Video made my day!
 
AMAZING how quickly that buffalo got to its feet and was charging. If the shooter had place the finishers from more to the right, not only would the angle to the vitals be improved, but he would have seen the bull get up sooner. Agree with Scott about any approach from the front.

Video made my day!
Yes and finishing shots from front don’t make sense.
 
Yes and finishing shots from front don’t make sense.
But getting in two immediate follow up shots where you are standing does. They were likely moving over to put in a proper insurance shot when it charged. I doubt anyone thought it was actually needed though. I’d think everyone in that group gave it a lot of thought what they’d do differently after it happened.
 
Sounds to me like there was too much "all or nothing" involved in taking that first poorly placed shot on the last day of the safari.
 
Interesting, fascinating, and educational all around. It's probably not a great idea to bear an unfamiliar rifle at any point in a DG safari without a really good reason.

Frontal shots are not my favorite, on any animal. There are lots of ways to miss the important stuff.
 
Sounds to me like there was too much "all or nothing" involved in taking that first poorly placed shot on the last day of the safari.
It very clearly says day 10 of 21 in the video. A frontal chest shot at 20 yards in relative open is about as good as you can hope for after a broadside shot. As usual, I have no idea where you came up with your latest theory.
 
It very clearly says day 10 of 21 in the video. A frontal chest shot at 20 yards in relative open is about as good as you can hope for after a broadside shot. As usual, I have no idea where you came up with your latest theory.
Frontal chest is great. What doesn’t make sense is when they say he tried for a frontal brain shot. And the PH didn’t know it.
 
Frontal chest is great. What doesn’t make sense is when they say he tried for a frontal brain shot. And the PH didn’t know it.
Client is the one aiming and pulling the trigger. I’m uncertain why someone would go for that over chest in this circumstance, but that’s what it says he decided to do. I’ve never had an animal go straight down and then have a PH immediately want to know where I shot. Usually the response is to stay on the animal and be ready to shoot again if gets up. We find out where shot was later. I’m sure when he found out client went for brain shot over chest it was a surprise, but putting two more bullets in right away was a good course of action to me. Looks like they planned a final insurance shot when it got up to charge.
 
Client is the one aiming and pulling the trigger. I’m uncertain why someone would go for that over chest in this circumstance, but that’s what it says he decided to do. I’ve never had an animal go straight down and then have a PH immediately want to know where I shot. Usually the response is to stay on the animal and be ready to shoot again if gets up. We find out where shot was later. I’m sure when he found out client went for brain shot over chest it was a surprise, but putting two more bullets in right away was a good course of action to me. Looks like they planned a final insurance shot when it got up to charge.
I would always feel a responsibility to tell my PH where I hit the animal. I wasn’t criticizing the PH but do think the shot placement choice wasn’t wise.
 
It very clearly says day 10 of 21 in the video. A frontal chest shot at 20 yards in relative open is about as good as you can hope for after a broadside shot. As usual, I have no idea where you came up with your latest theory.
I understood from the video that the permit for buffalo was ten days. Lion was 21 days. Guess I got it wrong? Or maybe you did? But that would be rare because you are never wrong.

Hardly a "relative open" shot. Once they stepped around for a clear approach to finish it, that's when the bull comes at them through an opening. When the first shot was taken, the camera was right behind the client and I really can't make out the target.
 
I understood from the video that the permit for buffalo was ten days. Lion was 21 days. Guess I got it wrong? Or maybe you did? But that would be rare because you are never wrong.

Hardly a "relative open" shot. Once they stepped around for a clear approach to finish it, that's when the bull comes at them through an opening. When the first shot was taken, the camera was right behind the client and I really can't make out the target.
Maybe you should watch again. They explain when they plan to start the buffalo hunt and also explain the cameraman’s angle.
 
Client is the one aiming and pulling the trigger. I’m uncertain why someone would go for that over chest in this circumstance, but that’s what it says he decided to do. I’ve never had an animal go straight down and then have a PH immediately want to know where I shot. Usually the response is to stay on the animal and be ready to shoot again if gets up. We find out where shot was later. I’m sure when he found out client went for brain shot over chest it was a surprise, but putting two more bullets in right away was a good course of action to me. Looks like they planned a final insurance shot when it got up to charge.
Any other animal and it goes down and PH knowing where the shot was placed is probably not important. Dangerous game is different I think. I dropped a blue wildebeest in his tracks and PH immediately wanted to know where I was aiming, just because it's such a rare occurrence (according to him). Same with black wildebeest I flattened on my second safari. PH immediately wanted to know where I aimed to kill it instantly? With a 270 WSM I'd never shot before, at 370 yards, and in a very hard side wind, all I could say was he was likely not hit where I aimed. Correct. Prone off a tripod I aimed about a foot behind his shoulder and a bit high. He was standing head down with his arse in the wind and I hit him behind the ear. Same safari I flattened a warthog tusker at 200 yards offhand. "Where did you hit him?" In the neck. "What? Why?" They are good eating and not real big. Don't want to waste the meat. Anyway, it didn't really matter to me if I missed. Not on my list. Usually my PHs want to know where I aimed, even for plains game.
 

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