For Sale Remington .457” 405 Grain Bullets

[MedRiver]

Full 50 count box with the count verified.

Asking $58 shipped

 

[tarbe]

I'll take these.

Please PM me your particulars for a boomer payment.

 

[tarbe]

Going to test these head-to-head in ballistic gel, against the Speer 400gr.

Thinking 1,500fps impact velocity...but open to suggestions.

 

[Sarg]

Back in the day these were a little harder than the 400gr Speer, we used to buy in Remington Bulk bags.

I'm thinking in my 45/70 H&R - New England it was over 1800fps but also loaded 1000fps subs & the Speer was more likely to have some expansion.

 

[Velo Dog]

Fellow Hunters,

Leaving the muzzle @ the Remington factory loaded 1300 fps, I shot one through a blacktail deer on Kodiak Island.
This was back about 30 years ago, when I once owned an 1886 Browning in .45-70 caliber.

The shot was uphill, very steep (essentially a cliff), about 25-30 yards / meters from the muzzle.
Entrance wound was near the lowest part of the rib cage, just barely behind the left front leg.
The exit wound was an irregular shaped perhaps approximately golf ball size hole, up through the spine, and out the top of the back.

The small 80-100 pounds (40 kg ?) deer dropped to the shot.
I stepped backward as it tumbled down toward my position, dead on arrival.

As is the case with pretty much all old fashioned soft lead core bullets, these work perfectly fine, provided we use them within their intended velocity limits.

Cheers,
Velo Dog.

 

[tarbe]

Interesting.

If I am reading the comments here correctly, we have one vote for the Remington is harder than the Speer 400gr, and we have one vote for the Remington will open up nicely on an 80-100 pound deer at sub-1300 ft./s.


If both the above are correct, the Speer 400gr must be awfully soft?

 

[Sarg]

Yes they are Deer bullets I believe, I wouldn’t shoot a Brown Bear with them on purpose !

The 350gr RN Hornady is a tougher bullet, heck those big bags of Remington bulk bullets were as cheap as buying lead slugs 25-30yrs ago,

I think the Speer was better as it kept its jacket on, the Remington was more brittle ?

At least those bulk bag bullets were !

Might even have a couple left but no bag or serial numbers.

 

[Velo Dog]

Interesting.

If I am reading the comments here correctly, we have one vote for the Remington is harder than the Speer 400gr, and we have one vote for the Remington will open up nicely on an 80-100 pound deer at sub-1300 ft./s.


If both the above are correct, the Speer 400gr must be awfully soft?

Hi Tarbe,

Since it took with it some of the animal’s bone material skyward as it exited, I do not know if the one bullet from the above description that I shot the smallish deer with actually opened up / mushroomed, etc.
The exit hole was irregular shaped, not round at all, suggesting perhaps the size and shape of said exit wound might have been more from bone fragments than from the bullet itself ?
Just my shade tree guess,

Cheers,
Paul.

 

[AustinM]

If I am not mistaken, Buffalo Bore use to utilize these bullets in their line of 45-70 ammo. Something around 2000 fps in a longer barrel, with obvious, but minimal loss of velocity in the guide guns.