Flying through london

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Well bad day as my flight from South Carolina to Atlanta was delayed so I am gonna miss my flight to joburg tonite. Instead they re booked me to fly atl to London (delta) then London to joburg (Virgin). Any issues checking rifles through London without permits? I will have an 8 hour layover so they say I have to get my firearms then recheck them into Virgin!
 
Man that sucks. I have not done that route but I do remember reading you need permits going that way. I would double check with someone before you get on that plane.
 
I seen where SAA through London doesn’t allow it but seems like Virgin is ok!
 
If you have a travel agent I'd be having a conversation.

I have never put hands on my firearms in Heathrow. I checked them through.

So, Delta is telling you they do not have a baggage handling agreement with Virgin!? and you should just handle it yourself.


IMHO:
If in fact DELTA is foisting this problem of handling the firearm on to you because of their failure, refuse to accept it. Tell them to solve the problem. Being polite while doing so always helps.
 
Ok! I guess they have some agreements with Virgin but we shall see I guess!
 
Yea they telling me my layover is too long for them to keep it???
 
Spikes comments on the subject from another thread.

There is supposed to be a security company handling all firearms at Heathrow now.

there are no problems transiting through heathrow with ba all the way or codeshare airlines, as the security company collects the gun cases from the aircraft and stores them till they put them onto the departing aircraft. the security people have the gun cases at all times, so if a problem occurs they know which one of their staff had them in their custody during collection and transfer. the problems used to occur in the past when it was the baggage handlers who had control of the guncases .there is no paperwork/documentation required to transit. as with anywhere there will always be "technicals", and i know from previous posts on here foxi seems to think heathrow is an issue , but over the last 35 years i have never had a "technical" (touch wood!!). the only "technical" i have encountered was at amsterdam quite a few years ago when i was with a friend i had booked a hunt for in tanzania, and his cases were left on the ground next to the aircraft and we could see them as we taxied off......they turned up 2 days later. your client cant use stanstead as he would then have to transfer to heathrow and depending on where he is flying from i doubt there will be a flight into that airport. it is possible to transfer between airports ,but you would need to use a firearms courier company to meet you and transfer your firearms to your dept airport, or get a visitors permit , which all adds up to expense and a pain in the ass when you can fly in and out of heathrow.......... the time scale to inform ba you are travelling with firearms i have always been told is a min of 72 hours in advance, but thats the minimum. you need to inform them of cal, type ie bolt action sporting rifle, and make. if your ticket shows zimbabwe as your end destination you wont be allowed to take your firearms, as the british govnt has an arms embargo of any type of firearm to that country ( not sure if that is the same when you dept from usa, but if you start in the uk is the case, so needs checking from that side)
 
Yea they telling me my layover is too long for them to keep it???

It's their delay (layover). As above, Security company should be handling the firearms.
 
I have encountered ticket agents that are plain lazy or hate firearms and become unhelpful and try and foist their troubles on to you. I'd be advocating for myself on this one.
Supervisor is in your future.

Good luck.
 
They were actually super helpful at my local airport re doing everything and making sure everything would be ok with firearms. But there was still that little doubt!
 
What time were you supposed to fly out of cae or Chs?
 
Best of luck and I hope it all goes smoothly
 
Good luck with your travels and Safari!
 
Well we got to tour London today which was quite nice! I had to spend about 2 hours with security and Virgin Atlantic trying to get my firearms checked through! I believe everything is set now! Updated Henry this morning on our new arrival time to joburg and we are set! I think!??
 
You’re in real trouble if you didn’t use a travel agent. Sorry for what you are going through.
 
Let us know how everything went.
 

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