Fly to Bulawayo- is Ethiopian Airlines ok w/rifle?

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Looking to get airfare to Bulawayo Zim from Anchorage- what’s the recommended way? I can get some good deals on Ethiopian Airlines but not sure I should travel them with rifles?

other option is Delta or United to JNB then take an Airlink hop to Bulawayo-

What would you do?
 
To start with I would just call Jennifer at Travel Express, sit back and let her work her magic.
 
Looking to get airfare to Bulawayo Zim from Anchorage- what’s the recommended way? I can get some good deals on Ethiopian Airlines but not sure I should travel them with rifles?

other option is Delta or United to JNB then take an Airlink hop to Bulawayo-

What would you do?
Ethiopian Airlines allows sporting guns as checked baggage, but with specific requirements. They must be unloaded, suitably packed, and have the safety catch on, and a maximum of 2 firearms are permitted. A Firearms Declaration Form must be completed for each case containing a firearm and provided during check-in. Advance notice to the airline is also required.
 
I don't have any personal experience on Ethiopian but found this post re someone else's trip....

 
There is a thread started recently on problems on Ethiopian getting guns checked in Addis.

I will be flying on Delta, June 26, to Joburg then next morning to Bulawayo. I have taken this route numerous times. I stay at City Lodge, so simple. Gracy travel handles all of my needs, from tickets, gun permits, taking me through customs and finally to City Lodge. Again SIMPLE!
 
I have flown with Ethiopian to Zim twice. They allow firearms, only annoying part is when you land in Ethiopia before you get on your transfer flight you have to be taken down to there luggage storage area I guess and open your firearms bag and confirm serial numbers with your 4457 paperwork. Both times they made me do it right before the flight.
 
There is a thread started recently on problems on Ethiopian getting guns checked in Addis.

I will be flying on Delta, June 26, to Joburg then next morning to Bulawayo. I have taken this route numerous times. I stay at City Lodge, so simple. Gracy travel handles all of my needs, from tickets, gun permits, taking me through customs and finally to City Lodge. Again SIMPLE!
Gracy Travel is the best. I dealt with Debra Gracy several times and the service was outstanding and her meet and greet service was great,worth every penny.
Paul
 
For those that do the JoBerg layover- I assume you have to do the firearms check twice? both when coming from the States, then when returning from Zim? Do you still recomend RiflePermits?
 
To start with I would just call Jennifer at Travel Express, sit back and let her work her magic.
Yes! Call Jennifer at Travel Express. I used her.on.my.last safari. I wouldn't consider another trip without her words of wisdom!
 
For those that do the JoBerg layover- I assume you have to do the firearms check twice? both when coming from the States, then when returning from Zim? Do you still recomend RiflePermits?
Yes, each way and make sure you have a decent layover in Addis of 3 hours if possible.
 
I flew Ethiopian thru Addis in March. I didn't take my own firearms, as layover is so short and Jennifer was worried if I would make my connection. I used camp rifles, and they were ok, but I would much rather have my own.
Our plane was late. Addis was a cluster. I had my 82 yr old mother with me. We deplaned on the tarmac and were herded around like cattle until they walked us to the correct plane, last minute. Our checked baggage made it to us 3 days later. If I would have had firearms, I am reasonably sure we would have missed our flight and had a 24 hour layover in Addis. YMMV
 
For those that do the JoBerg layover- I assume you have to do the firearms check twice? both when coming from the States, then when returning from Zim? Do you still recomend RiflePermits?
I've done this twice. Once to Zim and once to Botswana. On the way over, yes, you get your rifles checked in Joberg and your final destination.

On the return flight from Bulawayo, I was able to check my rifle all the way back to the US(Airlink/Delta).

On the return flight from Maun, the airlines computers were down, so could only check back to JNB. Luckily, we had booked with Gracy Travel, so we were able to call Bruce from Maun and he met us at Joberg to get through SAPS quickly so we could catch our flight home.
 
For those that do the JoBerg layover- I assume you have to do the firearms check twice? both when coming from the States, then when returning from Zim? Do you still recomend RiflePermits?
Yes to Rifle Permits!

On your return flight, you might be able to check in at Bulawayo and get your rifle and back checked through to Alaska. So no rifle clearance required, assuming you are not overnighting in JNB on your return flight.
 
Looking to get airfare to Bulawayo Zim from Anchorage- what’s the recommended way? I can get some good deals on Ethiopian Airlines but not sure I should travel them with rifles?

other option is Delta or United to JNB then take an Airlink hop to Bulawayo-

What would you do?
I realize this isn't everyone's cup of tea, but now that I think of it, my 1st "Zim" trip (to the Bulawayo area) was simply flying into OR Tambo (JHB) and the PH met me there for a really nice roadtrip N across RSA-we stayed in a guest house overnight on another PHs property and went hunting the next day in RSA before heading N crossing into Zim at Beitbridge. The trip was amazing and wonderful in every way (and 'got to experience both countries on the ground!) On the return trip, I was able to help the PH drive one of his safari vehicles into RSA where it was dropped off for maintenance prior to another safari. Driving through the Louis Trichardt mountainous area (among a great many other places/people/things-food/hunting shop in Pretoria!!) was an amazing sight indeed! (and, 1 flight there, 1 flight home.) Are you hunting the BVC? We went there too when it was in the making...saw lots of Buffalo, some Lion and LOTS of PG.
 
I realize this isn't everyone's cup of tea, but now that I think of it, my 1st "Zim" trip (to the Bulawayo area) was simply flying into OR Tambo (JHB) and the PH met me there for a really nice roadtrip N across RSA-we stayed in a guest house overnight on another PHs property and went hunting the next day in RSA before heading N crossing into Zim at Beitbridge. The trip was amazing and wonderful in every way (and 'got to experience both countries on the ground!) On the return trip, I was able to help the PH drive one of his safari vehicles into RSA where it was dropped off for maintenance prior to another safari. Driving through the Louis Trichardt mountainous area (among a great many other places/people/things-food/hunting shop in Pretoria!!) was an amazing sight indeed! (and, 1 flight there, 1 flight home.) Are you hunting the BVC? We went there too when it was in the making...saw lots of Buffalo, some Lion and LOTS of PG.
I have done a couple long road trips as well. Not an option this time. The average outside temperature is pretty important to me as to if the drive is bearable or not. Coming from cold Alaska anything over 70 F is too hot to be enjoyable! And a hot car ride gets old fast (blasting ac if it works can help) October will be getting hot….
 
I have done a couple long road trips as well. Not an option this time. The average outside temperature is pretty important to me as to if the drive is bearable or not. Coming from cold Alaska anything over 70 F is too hot to be enjoyable! And a hot car ride gets old fast (blasting ac if it works can help) October will be getting hot
What will you do on the hunt as far as temps??? Enlighten us! lol Military ice packs??? Harrison Ford will start up the Mosquito Coast A/C machine?? Blind w/ A/C? A custom Yeti bubble w/ gun turret? It doesn't get "rough" until Dec. but it goes from -20F to 105F here. It's life. Your BP will rise and refrain from going crazy from the heat!! lol (Most PH's wives have very nice transport vehicles-SUVs/Vans with A/C. ;)) Cooler than the plane. Enjoy.
 
I flew Ethiopian in 2021, layover in Addis Abbi, no issues, its Africa so nothing like NA. Just like SAPS in SA only no office its in lower level of airport. For a Canadian they were far cheaper than all other options and did NOT charge any fees for travelling with firearms. Will do same route next time.

MB
 
Looking to get airfare to Bulawayo Zim from Anchorage- what’s the recommended way? I can get some good deals on Ethiopian Airlines but not sure I should travel them with rifles?
Depends if you are weak hearted, emotional and sensitive person or not? Or a true cave man hunter with macho stamina?

So, if you travel via connection on Adis Abebba, as per local rules, they will take you to cargo bay of the airport which is like basement or dungeon.

From passenger transit area you will be escorted by security and you will go by shuttle car from one area to another.
There, you will open the rifle case, and they will check serial number of the rifle, and compare serial number in documents.
With two trips, I did it four times.

To do this smoothly, have all your documents photocopied.
And during the check, give them copy of your papers. They will appreciate, because they dont have a copy machine there in cargo bay, and somebody will need to run upstairs (back with shuttle car, then by stairs) to copy documents and come back which cause delays, while you and security in cargo bay will be idling without chair to sit, between forklifts, waiting half an hour for the guy to come back with paper copies..

On my first trip, I was informed, and I knew this in advance. For me this was interesting experience that adds to the entire adventure experience of the hunt.
There were also some pleasant moments:
On the way back, from hunting there was several hours to next flight, and some delays in cargo bay luggage transfer to next flight.
Security did not want to loose time to search for me and a friend in passenger transit areas, so they took us to business lounge, and told us to stay put there and dont move, till they are ready for rifle security check. (we travelled on economy)
So, we had a very nice drinks, beer, wine, smoked salmon, snacks, and meals for free in the lounge by their courtesy.

If not mentally prepared to do this, sensitive, emotional and weak hearted international hunters take it as total stressful situation, expecting to be arrested for life. And swearing later never to use Ethiopian air lines ever again, or denouncing hunting in Africa with their rifles for ever!

For me, this was basically all interesting and pleasent. Security is very polite, all fine.
When and where else, I would be able to see an international airport cargo bay area, and automatic cargo belts, and forklifts?

From my point of view, it was generally routine, albite unusual experience. (So, be a man, and dont worry)

Some points and anecdote:
Layover time: make sure to have at least 3 hours of layover time to connecting flight in Adis, to give time for this procedure. Two hours, as minimum is sufficient, but three is better.

Last trip (2024) anegdote:
A friend and me, went down to dungeons with security to check the rifles, it was our second trip to Africa and back, via Adis, thus, business as usual.
All went fine, all security personnel were very kind, all routine.

At my check desk I noticed one small detail.
On the same desk where was my gun case, there was left a set of keys, presumably of some other gun case. A passenger before me, in total stress, probably left his keys on the desk.
I am sure, he would have a surprise, surprise moment when he lands in his next destination. Loosing the keys, might ruin his day.
Bottom line, stick to your key at all times, consider having back up key, or using coded lock.
Dont forget to have several copies of all gun and travel documents!
 
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Depends if you are weak hearted, emotional and sensitive person or not? Or a true cave man hunter with macho stamina?

So, if you travel via connection on Adis Abebba, as per local rules, they will take you to cargo bay of the airport which is like basement or dungeon.

From passenger transit area you will be escorted by security and you will go by shuttle car from one area to another.
There, you will open the rifle case, and they will check serial number of the rifle, and compare serial number in documents.
With two trips, I did it four times.

To do this smoothly, have all your documents photocopied.
And during the check, give them copy of your papers. They will appreciate, because they dont have a copy machine there in cargo bay, and somebody will need to run upstairs (back with shuttle car, then by stairs) to copy documents and come back which cause delays, while you and security in cargo bay will be idling without chair to sit, between forklifts, waiting half an hour for the guy to come back with paper copies..

On my first trip, I was informed, and I knew this in advance. For me this was interesting experience that adds to the entire adventure experience of the hunt.
There were also some pleasant moments:
On the way back, from hunting there was several hours to next flight, and some delays in cargo bay luggage transfer to next flight.
Security did not want to loose time to search for me and a friend in passenger transit areas, so they took us to business lounge, and told us to stay put there and dont move, till they are ready for rifle security check. (we travelled on economy)
So, we had a very nice drinks, beer, wine, smoked salmon, snacks, and meals for free in the lounge by their courtesy.

If not mentally prepared to do this, sensitive, emotional and weak hearted international hunters take it as total stressful situation, expecting to be arrested for life. And swearing later never to use Ethiopian air lines ever again, or denouncing hunting in Africa with their rifles for ever!

For me, this was basically all interesting and pleasent. Security is very polite, all fine.
When and where else, I would be able to see an international airport cargo bay area, and automatic cargo belts, and forklifts?

From my point of view, it was generally routine, albite unusual experience. (So, be a man, and dont worry)

Some points and anecdote:
Layover time: make sure to have at least 3 hours of layover time to connecting flight in Adis, to give time for this procedure. Two hours, as minimum is sufficient, but three is better.

Last trip (2024) anegdote:
A friend and me, went down to dungeons with security to check the rifles, it was our second trip to Africa and back, via Adis, thus, business as usual.
All went fine, all security personnel were very kind, all routine.

At my check desk I noticed one small detail.
On the same desk where was my gun case, there was left a set of keys, presumably of some other gun case. A passenger before me, in total stress, probably left his keys on the desk.
I am sure, he would have a surprise, surprise moment when he lands in his next destination. Loosing the keys, might ruin his day.
Bottom line, stick to your key at all times, consider having back up key, or using coded lock.
Dont forget to have several copies of all gun and travel documents!
You Sir have it bang on. Not a scary dungeon or OMG worry exercise but an added bonus on a round the world trip. Your explanation and view is same as mine. Well done.

Due to weather our plane from Addis to Joberg was delayed 12 hrs we were also treated to a free hotel, all the food and drinks at restaurant and a taxi tour of city, all on Ethiopian's bill.

I will fly same route on Ethiopian for all my travel to SA.

MB
 

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