I think the concern is mostly with cartridges that fit readily available contemporary fully automatic military rifles (as in available to reactionaries or terrorists). Haven't seen a fully auto militaty 30-06 made for a long time.
If he picks/builds a 30-06 with normal weight to it, the recoil will be very manageable. Avoid short barrels and plasti/carbon stocks. And the whole scout rifle bullshit. Shoot 165 gr modern technology bullets for deer. Maybe pump up to 180s for big hogs. At some point he may want to step up to bigger big game and a heavier 30-06 bullet can do it. I hunted elk in grizzly country growing up in Montana. I was fairly confident 180 cup and core 30-06 had enough thump to save my bacon if needed. 270 maybe not so confident. Now I primarily hunt deer in Eastern Montana and plains game in Africa. The shooting is in more open country than the mountains of Montana or boreal forest of Ontario. Two to three hundred yard shots are common now. Growing up my game was usually taken at less than 100 yards. So now I shoot 165 gr Partitions or Barnes bullets for a bit more range. It is a very flexible cartridge.
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Howa 1500 or Weatherby Vanguard with Bell & Carlson or HS Precision stock. 30/06 or 270 WIN or 6.5 PRC will fill all those needs, a no bull shit affordable rifle .
It would be him buying the suppressor for it, not using mine. But I do agree that unless he is buying the suppressor near immediately with the rifle, keeping a longer barrel is smarter..308 Win with a Barnes TTSX 130 grain.
Rifles: first choice Montana Rifle Company or second choice Winchester Model 70. They will last him a lifetime.
Suppressors are helpful, but since the suppressor will be in your name, he will be able to use it only when you are with him under current law. A short barrel without a suppressor is even worse than a muzzle brake. So starting off for HIS rifle, leave the barrel long and add a APA removable brake. There is near zero recoil with these brakes and are especially helpful for making practice fun. Wear foam plugs and muffs. Make practice fun and buy a quality scope too.
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I’ve been through this with four nephews who hunt with us for big mature deer in South Texas thorn brush country, which average more than 200# on the scales and pigs up to 250# on the scales. Started the first one with a .260 and Barnes TTSX 100 grain. It worked perfectly, all dropped where they stood. He also killed two pigs with one shot and the Barnes exited the second pig. To simplify logistics on my end, I have changed every one, my wife, and me to .308’s with Barnes TTSX 130’s @ 3100 fps. It has provided incredibly consistent terminal results with shot placement to the high shoulder if broadside or the point of the shoulder if quartering to us. The youngest one is prone to buck fever and yanked the trigger hitting a 230# buck in the liver. The buck ran about 100 yards leaving a blood trail Stevie Wonder could follow. The buck was dead at the end of the trail.
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