Factory Mauser Sporter?

[Ontario Hunter]

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

 

[PCC600]

I found this gun for sale here in Sweden for roughly 400 usd. It's only listed as an "Oberndorf bolt action" and looks pretty reminiscent of some factory sporters I've seen but I'm also far from an expert in this field. Is it actually one or just made by some gunsmith? Unfortunately this is the only picture of it but if I might be able to ask the seller for more if it's needed.

Unfortunately there's a limit to how many guns we can own here and I'm obviously at that limit so I'm afraid I can't buy it even if it turns out to be something rare and expensive.

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Mauser Type B . Lovely

 

[Pirkan]

It'd be pretty cool if it's a type B but I can't buy it unfortunately. How much would it be worth in the US in that condition if it was one? A similar Mauser type B with a little nicer wood and chambered for 9x57 was sold for just under 750 usd 5 years ago at auction here in Sweden for reference.

 

[cajunchefray]

It'd be pretty cool if it's a type B but I can't buy it unfortunately. How much would it be worth in the US in that condition if it was one? A similar Mauser type B with a little nicer wood and chambered for 9x57 was sold for just under 750 usd 5 years ago at auction here in Sweden for reference.

Many pre-WW1 Original Oberndorf Mausers had the left wall thumb cut and the stripper clip guide, according to Jon Speed's Original Oberndorf Sporting Rifles. 1997. I've seen a few at nice gun shows.

Most type Bs, but not all, had the tangent rear sights as pictured. As stated above, many options for sights, floorplate, stock, etc.

If you want, take pictures of the left sidewall, barrel proofs and the action I will will research the serial number in Jon Speeds book.

I'm guessing in similar condition, based on the one picture, if an original Oberndorf sporter, anywhere from $2500-$4500USD, depending. I am not a specialist collector;
I follow these listings as I appreciate these rifles.

Others here have much more experience in buying/selling these Mausers.

 

[Pirkan]

Many pre-WW1 Original Oberndorf Mausers had the left wall thumb cut and the stripper clip guide, according to Jon Speed's Original Oberndorf Sporting Rifles. 1997. I've seen a few at nice gun shows.

Most type Bs, but not all, had the tangent rear sights as pictured. As stated above, many options for sights, floorplate, stock, etc.

If you want, take pictures of the left sidewall, barrel proofs and the action I will will research the serial number in Jon Speeds book.

I'm guessing in similar condition, based on the one picture, if an original Oberndorf sporter, anywhere from $2500-$4500USD, depending. I am not a specialist collector;
I follow these listings as I appreciate these rifles.

Others here have much more experience in buying/selling these Mausers.

I look forward to receiving the pictures from the seller in a week or so and will definitely send you what you need. I'd honestly be very surprised if this gun, assuming it's a type B, brought over 1500 usd at auction here but our market is a bit different to say the least.

 

[Tom Leoni]

One more vote for a type-B sporter. Original.

 

[Huvius]

Type Bs can get over $3K US but not too often. Most run in the $1500-$3000 range depending on many variables.
What is this one chambered in? That has a great effect on pricing here in the US. Nobody here wants a 9X57 or really an 8X57 for that matter but 30'06 and 7X57s do better.
9.3X62s sell at the higher end of the market - very desirable.

 

[Zinz]

Nobody here wants a 9X57

I guess I’m a nobody

...not a factory Sporter, but a good one, nonetheless

Ed Z

 

[Pirkan]

Type Bs can get over $3K US but not too often. Most run in the $1500-$3000 range depending on many variables.
What is this one chambered in? That has a great effect on pricing here in the US. Nobody here wants a 9X57 or really an 8X57 for that matter but 30'06 and 7X57s do better.
9.3X62s sell at the higher end of the market - very desirable.

The posting says 8x57 but I have no idea if that's the is or i or something in-between. If it had been a 9.3x62 I'd get rid of some stuff to be able to buy it but I can't really motivate it with an 8x57.

 

[KJE81]

It is great news that the 9,3x62 is a desirable chambering in the US. I am most likely going to sell mine when my custom M98 in .375 H&H is ready...I hope that the 9,3x62 will be easy to sell here in Sweden aswell

 

[Pirkan]

It is great news that the 9,3x62 is a desirable chambering in the US. I am most likely going to sell mine when my custom M98 in .375 H&H is ready...I hope that the 9,3x62 will be easy to sell here in Sweden aswell

Sounds like you need something for the really aggressive roe deer where the 375 won't do. Thankfully I know a guy that's selling a Brno in 458 Lott for cheap in Sweden if you're interested.

 

[KJE81]

Sounds like you need something for the really aggressive roe deer where the 375 won't do. Thankfully I know a guy that's selling a Brno in 458 Lott for cheap in Sweden if you're interested.

I might have expressed myself poorly, I am quite sure that the .375 H&H will be sufficent for all my big game hunting, even in Africa, hence the plan to sell the 9,3x62 once the .375 H&H is done.

It is at the stockmaker now and then it will go to the engraver and after that it goes back to the gunsmith for the final touches. All of this make me unsure if it will be ready for this fall and the moose hunting, thats why I bought the moose engraved Mauser M98 in 9,3x62 on the pictures above, like a temporary solution until the custom rifle is done when the 9,3x62 will be sold.

 

[Huvius]

Zinz, I don’t know why Americans dislike the 9X57 - most likely because of ignorance of what a fine cartridge it is for North American Game.
I have a very nice TypeB in 9mm and had it for sale a while back and virtually nobody had any interest in it even when priced lower than any other ‘B’ on the market at the time.

I like to share the specs on some of the sporting cartridges of the era to help them understand the competence of the 9X57.
See, 3gr lighter bullet at 66fps faster than the 318WR wonder cartridge!!

 

[Pirkan]

I might have expressed myself poorly, I am quite sure that the .375 H&H will be sufficent for all my big game hunting, even in Africa, hence the plan to sell the 9,3x62 once the .375 H&H is done.

It is at the stockmaker now and then it will go to the engraver and after that it goes back to the gunsmith for the final touches. All of this make me unsure if it will be ready for this fall and the moose hunting, thats why I bought the moose engraved Mauser M98 in 9,3x62 on the pictures above, like a temporary solution until the custom rifle is done when the 9,3x62 will be sold.

I was only joking. I'm trying to sell my 458 (to fund a hunting rifle that'll give the purists a heart attack) but the interest has been pretty low as you can imagine with our market.

 

[KJE81]

I was only joking. I'm trying to sell my 458 (to fund a hunting rifle that'll give the purists a heart attack) but the interest has been pretty low as you can imagine with our market.

I see, what kind of hunting rifle is it that you are planning for then? The one which will give the purists a heart attack I mean?

 

[Pirkan]

I see, what kind of hunting rifle is it that you are planning for then? Which will give the purists a heart attack I mean?

An FB Radom Beryl S223. When the authorities changed the rules to allow all semiautos with a barrel over 45 cm for hunting last year I applied for the gun I thought had the lowest chances of being approved by the police on the basis of it looking "scary" just to test the limits. An ak covered in rails was one of the more offensivelooking guns i could think of but to my surprise they approved it without arguing. It's taken a while to get one but I should finally have mine within a month. Here's a picture of mine (or one of the other 4 my dealer is bringing in) in Poland waiting to be shipped.

I still wanted something usable unlike my friend that applied for a Zastava M53 but that's a different story.

 

[MontanaGrant]

I’d say the 9x57 hasn’t caught on is mainly the harder to find bullets. .358 is most common and that’s a bit to sewage down to .355. I’d think. A friend has a 9x57 and he has a stock of .356 bullets he uses.


Also higher velocity longer rounds caught on early in the US

 

[Zinz]

One aspect of these Mauser Sporters that some folks never see and get to appreciate is how they are fitted into the stocks. They look like they were inletted with a CNC machine. Tolerances are so tight the barreled action can usually only go in from straight down into the stock...no wiggling. This holds for non-Oberndorf rifles as well. They are also trim and lightweight; especially in the smaller calibers. The 9x57mm in the picture I posted above is just shy of 7lbs.

The "guild" guns are just as good, and usually had for substantially less than a factory sporter. I'm a sucker for them. They can be a tad on the short side for length of pull. Here is a favorite of mine that someone rechambered to .35 Whelen and actually cut the butt to make it shorter. I had to add a spacer and pad on it to make usable for me. It weighs nothing and will get your attention with full power loads, but you can carry it all day and never notice it.

One point about these early sporters that probably turns today's shooters off to them is most of them are open sighted. I get it... my aging eyes have trouble seeing that front bead sometimes, but I've learned to replace that front blade with something I can see, or paint the bead. In any case, these rifles were meant as stalking guns and shots were within 100 yards. You don't need the latest, wizz-bang magnum to get the job done at these ranges (talking about deer/plains game cartridges).

In any case, if you ever have the chance to handle one I think you will find there is nothing quite like them. Search one out at the next DSC, HSC, SCI convention; the fine gun retailers typically have several to look at.

Ed Z

 

[Themauserkid]

Mauser produced rifles with thumb cuts all the way through the end of the war. The solid wall actions are scarce and desirable, and far from the norm.

 

[Markinnz]

Hope you brought that rifle..looks like a type b to me,the tangent sight is a sporter type ,different to the millitary ones please see my pics, mines a type b circa early 30,s in 3006