Double rifles with stainless steel barrels

[DelRock83]

How about a Shiloh Sharps? Got this at auction a few years back. Somewhere along its life it got rusty and the owner sanded the finish off the barrel. I wasn’t sure exactly what I was getting, but I actually love this rifle. Great bore and great wood. .45-70

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Stop it........my uncle has a Cimmaron rolling block in 45-70 that we only see and shoot on new years....man I bet taking down an Eland with a sharps...in AFRICA...would give all kinds of Matthew Quigley vibes

 

[DelRock83]

I'm about to leave this group yall are mean and some "gun flirts"....

 

[DelRock83]

How about a Shiloh Sharps? Got this at auction a few years back. Somewhere along its life it got rusty and the owner sanded the finish off the barrel. I wasn’t sure exactly what I was getting, but I actually love this rifle. Great bore and great wood. .45-70

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Then I'm married I can't let my wife walk in on me viewing such lustful publications...LMAO

 

[DelRock83]

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Closest that I know of that was in production would be the now discontinued Blaser S2. Along with a number of other unique, modern innovations like a tilting block that never goes off face, adapted to scope use from the factory, etc it was finished in Blaser's proprietary finish that made it immune to almost any weather conditions.

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Jesus Christ....man how did you come up the formula to sight in that scope as far as I understand with the situation of barrel regulation...just zero the scope to the general point of impact of each barrel....I'm not making an opinion I'm requesting knowledge????

 

[Red Leg]

J

Jesus Christ....man how did you come up the formula to sight in that scope as far as I understand with the situation of barrel regulation...just zero the scope to the general point of impact of each barrel....I'm not making an opinion I'm requesting knowledge????

I am not sure if divine intervention is required, but it is very easy with an accurate double = any accurate double that is properly scoped. My S2 is extremely so.and designed to use a dismountable scope. Using a 300 gr TSX and load developed by Lance Hendershot, each barrel shoots sub MOA for three shots. A combined four shot group at 100 yards LxR LxR is never larger than 2.5 inches. I sight in the rifle using the right barrel. I then have first shot accuracy out to the effective range of the chambering. I have taken game out to 250 yards as easily as if I were using a Ruger No 1. I haven’t needed a second shot at that range, but if I did, unlike the Ruger, I would have a second shot instantly available that would only be an MOA or two off the first. The 06 and 500/416 barrels will do exactly the same thing though I have not used the 500/416 at an extended range target. Remove the scope for a follow-up and put it back on when done and the rifle shoots to exactly the same point of impact. Simple, and no need to get Jesus Christ involved at all.

By the way, my pre WWII .9.3 will do exactly the same thing. It is equipped with claw mounts.

 

[gbflyer]

You’re faring pretty well DelRock. I once inquired on another forum why there wasn’t a more mass produced, more affordable all weather double for us Alaska Coast Dwellers and was quickly handed my head. Haha.

 

[HankBuck]

You’d turn this down?

@Certus - I wouldn’t own double rifle that for 5 minutes - would sell it immediately and then Buy a “quality” Double Rifle made with the same materials that have been used for over 100 years. That is obviously my personal taste & opinion and to that I will add “why would stainless make it better”? I can only think that a gun that UGLY “stainless” would make it less likely to get stolen… (hey, it might shoot sub MOA out to 1000 yrds but I’d have zero interest).

 

[HankBuck]

I'm about to leave this group yall are mean and some "gun flirts"....

@DelRock83 - hey MAN UP, you threw the first punch - couple of us older, more narrow minded & set in our ways GUYs just decided to punch back !! Clearly a stainless double rifle would sell - people owning neon pink & green plastic stocked ARs will LOVE IT, Men born before 1980 Not as much….am I a “grump” or what?

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

@Certus - I wouldn’t own double rifle that for 5 minutes - would sell it immediately and then Buy a “quality” Double Rifle made with the same materials that have been used for over 100 years. That is obviously my personal taste & opinion and to that I will add “why would stainless make it better”? I can only think that a gun that UGLY “stainless” would make it less likely to get stolen… (hey, it might shoot sub MOA out to 1000 yrds but I’d have zero interest).

@HankBuck
If'n y'all didn't like the stainless finish you could always send it to @Forrest Halley.
I hear he can do wonders with a rattle can of spray paint. He could even do you a nice cammo finish if you asked him.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Bob

 

[HankBuck]

@HankBuck
If'n y'all didn't like the stainless finish you could always send it to @Forrest Halley.
I hear he can do wonders with a rattle can of spray paint. He could even do you a nice cammo finish if you asked him.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Bob

@Bob Nelson 35Whelen - damn right Bob, hit that “P. Diddy-Rapper-Chrome-Double rifle” with a Sand Blaster and then a can of Krylon flat black paint for starters…. There is a place for stainless steel - on your silverware or kitchen knives, maybe a plastic stocked bolt rifle or shotgun — but Not on a classic double rifle

 

[Flipper Dude]

Stainless? Can ya blue stainless? If not, no thanks.

 

[HankBuck]

Stainless? Can ya blue stainless? If not, no thanks.

@Flipper Dude - I believe you can “Blue Stainless” because S&W made some very nice “Blued Stainless” 686 revolvers 30-40 years ago, they are rare and I’ve only read about them, they command a high price if you can find one. From my very limited knowledge about metal, I’ve heard that a stainless action on a bolt rifle will NOT be as “smooth” as regular steel (all else being equal) and I think the reason is that the stainless steel is ‘harder”….although I purchased a Browning XBolt stainless .243 (please forgive Me Bob) and that action seems smooth to me. I’m sure others with more gun knowledge and metal understanding can add more details.

 

[Woodcarver]

@Flipper Dude - I believe you can “Blue Stainless” because S&W made some very nice “Blued Stainless” 686 revolvers 30-40 years ago, they are rare and I’ve only read about them, they command a high price if you can find one. From my very limited knowledge about metal, I’ve heard that a stainless action on a bolt rifle will NOT be as “smooth” as regular steel (all else being equal) and I think the reason is that the stainless steel is ‘harder”….although I purchased a Browning XBolt stainless .243 (please forgive Me Bob) and that action seems smooth to me. I’m sure others with more gun knowledge and metal understanding can add more details.

The stainless bolt on a stainless receiver will gall the receiver if there's an area that's a little rough, causing the action to feel sticky until it polishes out. Relatively easy to fix with a little polishing rouge and cycling the action for a while. Or, just put a couple hundred rounds downrange.

 

[DelRock83]

You’re faring pretty well DelRock. I once inquired on another forum why there wasn’t a more mass produced, more affordable all weather double for us Alaska Coast Dwellers and was quickly handed my head. Haha.

I guess this forum has genuine guys that are devoid of egos and was probably in one of our situations at some point in time besides I know a LOT of hunters but I know NONE who have had the experience of a safari hunt....I'm just here for the knowledge lol

 

[LucasK]

Flodman in Sweden makes doubles in Stainless steel.

 

[yamoon]

Somehow a stainless double rifle seems sac religious to me, but then I am addicted to century old oiled walnut and blued steel.
Mike

 

[One Day...]

Certainly not a double rifle, but the epitome of the all weather shotgun was well illustrated in the Ruger Red Label "All Weather" stainless shotgun, in the "Dull Gray" finish.

I totally love mine (and it happens to be one of the best fitting factory scatter gun I own). It is absolutely ideal in the duck boats or goose marshes. The fact that all internals are stainless too, aside from the striker springs I would presume (?), and the synthetic stock, make it impervious to rain, snow, boating splashes, mudd, salt, etc.

A few pop up on Gun Brokers now and then, and interestingly, they are worth now around $2,500 used, which is twice what I paid for mine new in 2003 or 2004.

I would definitely see the value of a similar double rifle, especially in damp equatorial forests for Bongo, Forest Elephant, Forest Buffalo, Giant Forest Hog, etc.

I am not sure if the gray finish, on top of the stainless steel, was a nitride finish (like the Glock or Blaser finish), but mine has not rubbed away in 20 years.

To be fully logical, such a double would need to be 100% stainless: barrels, action, internals, etc. and be stocked in synthetic material. In a way, it would be the double rifle equivalent of the R8 Professional: an indestructible TOOL.


PS: Ruger also made it in a bright polished finish, but brandishing that thing in sunny weather was like setting up a lighthouse to inform any flying creature in a 20 miles radius to steer clear away

 

[Fabnosh]

His majesty King George V was noted as saying whilst looking at a hammer less shotgun ‘a gun without hammers is like a spaniel without ears’

One wonders what he would have commented seeing a shiny double

FN

 

[Huvius]

I think Sturm Ruger really missed the boat in not developing their “Gold Label” shotgun platform into a double rifle.
These had a stainless action but blued steel barrels.
Legend has it they lost money on every one sold so stopped production after only a few thousand were made.
If they had made a double rifle with stainless barrels on that action (or one similar) they could have justified a much higher price than the shotguns and I bet right now they would be the darling of every PH or single gun all weather world adventurer.
If they made them with laminate stocks they would have weighed a ton so maybe in the interest of looking traditional, walnut and staining of the metal black or blue may have been well received.