Do German's just do it best?

[CJW]

Depends on the AWD I guess. If you have a Subaru you have much more than a vehicle that will keep you out of a ditch in a light rain. They are popular up here and when fitted with snow tires can be ALMOST unstoppable.

Subaru in this one is going through the hole at 2:08.

In the Top Gear Africa special, Hammond was like a pig in poo on the muddy roads in his WRX. Even pulled the other two out of the mud when they got stuck.

 

[John A Flaws]

I have a few English pre-war and a couple of postwar rifles. They are more refine even if built on a Mauser actions. This would include a Holland 375 magnum, two Westley's 318 as well as a 425, a Rigby 275 and an Army Navy co-op society 404. I have a couple more, but they are not on Mauser actions. The actions have been worked over, so they function perfectly. The stocks are superior in fitting and grade of wood. As a hand loader I have never found an old London or Birmingham rifle that will not produce very nice accuracy. I like them both, but I will take an old English rifle over the Germans. So, my conclusion is the German's do not always do it better.

 

[mark-hunter]

old pre-war German made firearms, which are nice, but I feel the British firearms are just better

This could apply for vintage rifles.

Not for modern ones.
British civilian gun industry does not exist any more for factory produced rifle, while German gun industry is very much alive and kicking.

British now have fine gun works shop for high end dollar rifle, and elite market.
Germany has high quality factory production .

M

Thread 'What happened to British gun industry?'

May 19, 2020

Dear all,

We all know about English bespoke guns. they are now also having their renaissance as well.
So this is not about them.

The question is why the British gun industry does not produce any more rifles and shotguns for middle class customers? What happened to british factory guns?

What are the background reasons behind general lack of British factory rifles and shotguns on the market?

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Few days ago, I asked AI (artificial intelligence) to list ten worst rifles in production today, based on AI internet sources.
So, AI did just that.
8 of them were American produced budget rifles and 2 were Rossi and CZ (from new euro production).
This was based probably on various internet complaints available to AI.

Generally, difference in quality production related to marketing is following:

- America, is the largest civilian gun market in the world, and produces rifles for all market classes: budget, middle class and high end. Budget class market is growing.

- Europe, in general, and traditionally produces rifles for middle class, and high end market. Germany has maybe largest civilian hunting rifle production (Blaser, Merkel, Sauer, Mauser, Heym, Kreighoff, etc) , whereas Italians are traditionally more into shotgun production, only recently made some break throughs in rifle market. (beretta, perrazi, fabarm, Guerinni, FAIR, etc)

- UK, produces for elite market, bespoke guns.

Probably exemptions exist here and there, but this is general conditions, thus the quality varies for picky costumers and user, who will easy lean towards new and modern German rifle for hunting.

 

[Creigh]

Germans strike again. Looks like a peach of a rifle.

 

[SaintPanzer]

OK, I'll say it out loud.

The Jakele is superior to the Blaser.

The "downside" is Jakele is a small company, and does not produce many rifles. I'm surprised he has one in North America, they were way behind (long lead times) in production for Germany when I left.

Other downside? No .375 H&H. But they are brilliant rifles.

 

[Grumpy gumpy]

Did anyone mention Strasser rifles yet….they are what blasser wanted to be.
Also they were designed by the guy who originally designed blasser rifles and he improved it
Gumpy

 

[spike.t]

I dont have the firearm experience of most on here but I love my Heym SR20 in 7x57 and would not be without it. In fact, its now my only rifle I own.

Needs to come visit it's bigger brother in 9.3x62....

 

[spike.t]

AWD helps it in everything except driving in straight lines.

Nah....have to disagree on that one.....give me rear wheel drive without any driver aids in a sports car or performance car.....AWD equates to boring....or for pussies.....

 

[spike.t]

Germans strike again. Looks like a peach of a rifle.

Jeez another fugly rifle.....

 

[C.W. Richter]

Mauser... Heym... Krieghoff... Merkel... Blaser... Sauer etc.

When it comes to fine hunting rifles, especially big bore DG ready rifles, do the Germans just do it best?

It really seems like the German's dominate the market for high-end, yet attainable firearms that don't require a second mortgage like their British counterparts.

Thoughts?

Some Germans came over to the USA prior to or during wars, and even as part of The Great Brain Drain (and along with that came some fine gunmakers, now RIP.) Which reminds me, I'll be selling a pair of Paul Jaeger custom Mausers (one in .257 Ackley and the other a .35 Whelen Ackley. Both can shoot factory ammo, are super accurate. Exc. Condition. w/ dies, brass, original catalog, etc.) A proper ad will be posted when I find the time between hosting hunters and hunting...'Just beginning to clean out a number of safe queens. lol The .257 has quite a story (and the last time I used it, 'tagged 2 deer in 15 sec. and took an antelope at 430 yds with it earlier and huge deer at 300-400 no problemo.)

 

[MS 9x56]

Jeez another fugly rifle....Even beautiful wood can't make that rifle look good.

 

[UKHunter]

Needs to come visit it's bigger brother in 9.3x62....

I would enjoy that very much.

 

[Northern Shooter]

Just sharing some German rifle porn.