Death of Zimbabwe’s Best-Loved Lion Ignites Debate on Sport Hunting

Just the fact that an op-ed like that even are it into the nytimes gives me some hope.

I wonder how many of those people who signed one of the petitions a week ago still would today? Many obviously would, but not all.
 
From the New York Times no less.
 
You read faster than me Royal.:)

My post was to late.:(
 
This is an Op-Ed piece from today's New York Times (Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/opinion/in-zimbabwe-we-dont-cry-for-lions.html?action=click&pif type=Homepage&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region) :

"In Zimbabwe We Don't Cry For Lions
By Goodwill Nzou

Winston-Salem, N.C. — MY mind was absorbed by the biochemistry of gene editing when the text messages and Facebook posts distracted me.

So sorry about Cecil.

Did Cecil live near your place in Zimbabwe?

Cecil who? I wondered. When I turned on the news and discovered that the messages were about a lion killed by an American dentist, the village boy inside me instinctively cheered: One lion fewer to menace families like mine.

My excitement was doused when I realized that the lion killer was being painted as the villain. I faced the starkest cultural contradiction I’d experienced during my five years studying in the United States.

Did all those Americans signing petitions understand that lions actually kill people? That all the talk about Cecil being “beloved” or a “local favorite” was media hype? Did Jimmy Kimmel choke up because Cecil was murdered or because he confused him with Simba from “The Lion King”?

In my village in Zimbabwe, surrounded by wildlife conservation areas, no lion has ever been beloved, or granted an affectionate nickname. They are objects of terror.

When I was 9 years old, a solitary lion prowled villages near my home. After it killed a few chickens, some goats and finally a cow, we were warned to walk to school in groups and stop playing outside. My sisters no longer went alone to the river to collect water or wash dishes; my mother waited for my father and older brothers, armed with machetes, axes and spears, to escort her into the bush to collect firewood.

A week later, my mother gathered me with nine of my siblings to explain that her uncle had been attacked but escaped with nothing more than an injured leg. The lion sucked the life out of the village: No one socialized by fires at night; no one dared stroll over to a neighbor’s homestead.

When the lion was finally killed, no one cared whether its murderer was a local person or a white trophy hunter, whether it was poached or killed legally. We danced and sang about the vanquishing of the fearsome beast and our escape from serious harm.

Recently, a 14-year-old boy in a village not far from mine wasn’t so lucky. Sleeping in his family’s fields, as villagers do to protect crops from the hippos, buffalo and elephants that trample them, he was mauled by a lion and died.

The killing of Cecil hasn’t garnered much more sympathy from urban Zimbabweans, although they live with no such danger. Few have ever seen a lion, since game drives are a luxury residents of a country with an average monthly income below $150 cannot afford.

Don’t misunderstand me: For Zimbabweans, wild animals have near-mystical significance. We belong to clans, and each clan claims an animal totem as its mythological ancestor. Mine is Nzou, elephant, and by tradition, I can’t eat elephant meat; it would be akin to eating a relative’s flesh. But our respect for these animals has never kept us from hunting them or allowing them to be hunted. (I’m familiar with dangerous animals; I lost my right leg to a snakebite when I was 11.)

The American tendency to romanticize animals that have been given actual names and to jump onto a hashtag train has turned an ordinary situation — there were 800 lions legally killed over a decade by well-heeled foreigners who shelled out serious money to prove their prowess — into what seems to my Zimbabwean eyes an absurdist circus.

PETA is calling for the hunter to be hanged. Zimbabwean politicians are accusing the United States of staging Cecil’s killing as a “ploy” to make our country look bad. And Americans who can’t find Zimbabwe on a map are applauding the nation’s demand for the extradition of the dentist, unaware that a baby elephant was reportedly slaughtered for our president’s most recent birthday banquet.

We Zimbabweans are left shaking our heads, wondering why Americans care more about African animals than about African people.

Don’t tell us what to do with our animals when you allowed your own mountain lions to be hunted to near extinction in the eastern United States. Don’t bemoan the clear-cutting of our forests when you turned yours into concrete jungles.

And please, don’t offer me condolences about Cecil unless you’re also willing to offer me condolences for villagers killed or left hungry by his brethren, by political violence, or by hunger."
I was at a board meeting today when this topic came up. My response was surprisingly similar, although not nearly as eloquent. It means so much more from a "local". We discussed what would we think if someone from Africa told us we couldn't kill coyotes here anymore.
 
My hat's off to Africahunting.com member and contributor The New York Times for publishing this excellent op-ed.
 
Can anyone from Zim verify?

From the Past and Present Facebook page:

Greg BossertGame Animals of the Past and Present
Yesterday at 7:22pm · Fargo, ND, United States ·
Found this post, any thoughts? Sounds legit.

For everyone that is/was "concerned" about the lion situation that has been blown out of proportion by social media. Read up. This is an email that my parents sent me. (They are in Africa right now).

Many of you have read or heard the news of the collared lion that has been shot here in Africa. Greg and I are in Zimbabwe, hunting with clients, at the camp of the very man that is being accused of "slaughtering a protected lion".
I would just like to clarify a few facts. Firstly, yes, the lion was collared but that does not mean protected the hunting concession we are on borders the park-- no fences, no gates, no wires. These animals are free to roam and cross into the areas surrounding the park at will. It is a given that when any animal is out of the designated boundaries of the park and in a hunting concession, it is fair game. Collared animals are shot by hunters once in a while and the law states that nothing has been done illegally, just that the collar is to be returned to the National Parks office.
Secondly, this lion was not lured out of the park by guts being dragged or calls being made. There was an elephant carcass, that died of natural causes, 2 1/2 km out of the parks boundary. The Professional Hunter (PH) and his hunter had seen a lion on the carcass so set up a blind to hunt that evening. The collared lion was the one that came in. No one realized the animal was collared until after it was harvested. The collar was returned to Parks, as is the procedure. It is unfortunate that this lion is a frequently photographed one in the parks as I believe that is why it has made national news. That, and the fact that it has a name..... Cecil.
Theo Bronkhorst has been threatened and dragged over the coals on this one. His family is being harassed and the Facebook comments have been horrendous. One in particular. "let me guess...this fed a village".
Here's where I'd like to explain something. Feeding the village is a phrase that is always taken in the literal sense. Yes, the meat of any animal is shared with the people but it's more than that. Here's how it works.
Every hunting concession has a native game scout appointed. This scout must accompany the PH and his hunters to be sure that nothing is shot that is not on quota.....quota meaning that only so many of one species can be taken during the year. This is recorded very officially in a ledger. Every animal has a trophy fee. This is divided up to the outfitter, the village and the government. The village gets their share of the meat. Now this is where Theo makes a difference. With the money, he has helped the people dig wells, pipe water and supplied tanks to their houses so they don't have to walk long distances to carry it. They have larger gardens now because of it, not to mention running water. He has built schools. He's helped put in solar panels so they have power. I have seen satellite dishes on some homes so I know they have tv. It is all this that is included in the phrase ' feed the village'.
I believe so many people do not understand hunting. They only see killing. Without hunting there is no conservation. Theo and his family are conservationists. They are not poachers. Everything done in the taking of this lion was done with professionalism. The hunter was legally licensed, the outfitter/PH, Theo, was licensed to legally hunt in that area.
It is disgusting to me how there is so much to-do about this one lion but nothing is said about the man who was killed just 2 nights ago by an elephant in the village of the scout who rides in the truck with us everyday. A human life was taken and it is not mentioned. We should be more concerned about Masugo and his family than Cecil. It is unfair that no one feels sorry for Masugo....nor for the hunter and PH that have been falsely accused of a crime they did not commit.
Please share this with as many people as you can so the real story also gets revealed. It surprises us that organizations like Dallas Club and Safari Club International (SCI), who's slogan is 'first for hunters', have not become involved to investigate and stand behind a fellow hunter. Let us all, as hunters, stand together.
 
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You read faster than me Royal.:)

My post was to late.:(

Good to say it more than once though!!!! :)

I really do still have hope. And I think the antis have overplayed their hand. We need to stay the course and keep doing what is right, everytime. Don't get me wrong, I don't think this will be easy and someone like DSC or SCI needs to step up and lead, but we are far from being in a hopeless position.
 
I would like to see an investigative journalist do a piece on how this entire story broke. List all the misinformation that was released and who was responsible for releasing it.

If I remember correct, Johnny Rodriguez admitted he was wrong in saying that Cecil's brother Jericho, had been killed by poachers too. Makes you wonder how many of these false statements/news releases came from his mouth.:eek:
 
If I remember correct, Johnny Rodriguez admitted he was wrong in saying that Cecil's brother Jericho, had been killed by poachers too. Makes you wonder how many of these false statements/news releases came from his mouth.:eek:

ZCTF also said that they suspected that they had purposely been given bad information just to make them look bad.

In other words, even though they had to retract they still would not take full responsibility.
 
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From the New York Times no less.
I added the link because I was sure no one would believe me that The New York Times would actually publish such a thing!
 
This sums it all up///
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That is just classic! Hilarious :E Rofl:
 
780 000$ donated up to now too the research team that tracked " That Lion".
 
HHS, can you explain the money, not sure I understand.
 
That really doesn't seem like that much money to be raised from a worldwide emotionally charged fundraiser that has been going strong for two weeks.

It does show that there is good motivation for a less than honest anti-hunting crusader to spread mis-information in order to spark outrage regardless of the facts on the ground. I bet that they previously had not received that type of surge in funding. Remember, to these lefty NGO types, the ends justify the means so it is no big deal to lie and be dishonest of it leads toward achieving your goals. In this case those goals would be funding for their research and bans on hunting (especially lion hunting).
 
Fools and their money..............you just know that not one penny of that $780,000 is going to help wildlife in any way, shape, or form.(n)
 
The way I see it now is that they used the pet lion BS to get more donations. Maybe now everyone of them can afford a luxury SUV as well.

I would love to know where that money would end up. I am sure not even a third of it will reach Zimbabwe.
 
Does anyone know the terms of reference for the Oxford study? Has anything been published from it yet? When i was trying to figure out what it is I read that it is also supported by some hunting groups - they defended it as not being a conflict of interest.
 

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