Culling belt vs Cartridge Slides

[pc3]

Gents I received my products from Jacques. Beautiful !!

Question: what are people using to preserve/protect their leather goods from Jacques etc. ?

I have some dubbin on hand, is this suitable ?

Joseph Lyddy Dubbin - Joseph Lyddy

Joseph Lyddy Dubbin waterproofs, softens and preserves leather goods.

josephlyddy.com.au

 

[Altitude sickness]

What ever leather product you prefer, I used Lexol and worked the leather, flexing it in every direction. Also wore it as much as possible. My culling belt was very stiff. So breaking it in like a new baseball glove was needed.

Now after sweating it in thoroughly on my Zim hunt it’s perfect and will only get better.

 

[Altitude sickness]

How about showing off your new leather goods

 

[pc3]

Gents I have to say Jacques was excellent deal with.

I ordered a cull belt for my .416, a pouch for a Leatherman, sling and butt cover. The quality is very high with a unique way of extending the length on the cull belt.

 

[Rule 303]

Gents I received my products from Jacques. Beautiful !!

Question: what are people using to preserve/protect their leather goods from Jacques etc. ?

I have some dubbin on hand, is this suitable ?

Joseph Lyddy Dubbin - Joseph Lyddy

Joseph Lyddy Dubbin waterproofs, softens and preserves leather goods.

josephlyddy.com.au

Forget Dubbin unless you want to ruin things. Dubbin over time rots stitching. Go for anything Lanolin based as your first option. Then any of the other leather care products.

 

[pc3]

Thanks for that I've always believed that is the "ducks nuts" I wonder why it rots the stitching ?

 

[Rule 303]

Thanks for that I've always believed that is the "ducks nuts" I wonder why it rots the stitching ?

I don't know, I have been told that Bees wax is slightly acidic and will do the same in time. Thats why museums don't use bees wax to protect anything. Here I was using bees furniture wax to cover the metal parts of my rifles until I found that out.

 

[Woodcarver]

I don't know, I have been told that Bees wax is slightly acidic and will do the same in time. Thats why museums don't use bees wax to protect anything. Here I was using bees furniture wax to cover the metal parts of my rifles until I found that out.

What you want is Renaissance Wax. Not to condition or break-in leather, but to protect the wood & metal on your rifles.
For leather, I use Snoseal, or bear grease to soften and/or waterproof. Neatsfoot oil also works for some applications (can't beat it for a new baseball glove). I am not aware of a leather softener or conditioner that won't darken the leather.

 

[Rule 303]

What you want is Renaissance Wax. Not to condition or break-in leather, but to protect the wood & metal on your rifles.
For leather, I use Snoseal, or bear grease to soften and/or waterproof. Neatsfoot oil also works for some applications (can't beat it for a new baseball glove). I am not aware of a leather softener or conditioner that won't darken the leather.

Thanks Woodcarver. I'll chase down some Renaissance Wax. I use to use Snowseal on my snow gear and latter leather hunting gear I was taking to Nez Zealand in the winter months. Now use the Meindl boot wax on all that gear. Lanolin softens and protects leather, also good for adding an anti rust/anti binding covering to blots etc. Get it in spray cans, Lanox MX4, Lanotec and others.

 

[Franco]

Your initial post does not mention rifle, bolt or double - or caliber, but you do question if a culling belt is "over-the-top, over kill, or uncomfortable.

I can speak only from my personal experience and preference. My first consideration for ammo is access, second is amount. My go-to rifle for dangerous game is a double and I use a culling belt. Watch a video of someone shooting and performing a quick reload on a double; break - both spent rounds eject, use your thumb and two fingers to draw two live rounds from the culling belt, roll your hand palm up as you bring the open rifle and hand together and drop the two rounds into the barrels, snap the rifle shut as you raise it back to your shoulder and you're back in the fight.

Having experienced one of those situations described by Altitude Sickness, turning and reaching for your back-up 458 Lott, only to watch it grow legs and disappear into the brush at a high rate of speed - is definitely an "oh-shit" moment.

When you go head to head with dangerous game you are putting yourself, your PH, the trackers, everyone around you, in harm's way. That is not the time to be more concerned with fashion over function. Not having tusks doesn't make an elephant less of a threat, in fact, it could be quite the opposite.

To address your question of uncomfortable; a culling belt does not use the loops on your pants, it goes on over, and for me, above my pants. I only wear it when I'm actively on the hunt. Remember access? I can rotate the belt to make my ammo more accessible if need be.

The folding wallets work great, I primarily use them to store extra ammo and attach them to belts on my day bag.

I do use the sliding pouches which have the bullets exposed for my 458 and 375. I put those on my regular belt, and if I'm using either the 458 or 375 for back up, I'll put one on the culling belt.

I have two of the Murray fold-over wallets which I will never use, I bought them when I was where you are now, you can have them if you want to try them out. They are for 375, I do know what caliber you might need. Send me your address and I'll send them to you.

 

[Bandera]

I just received my Murray culling belt, my wife bought it as a Christmas present
It was comfortable right out with box. Well built and flexible. Is it as flexible as canvas belt No. I went with the elastic loops for the two different cartridges the 375 Ruger and the 450-400 NE.
I wanted a belt that I could put my knife and flash light pouch on. At the end of the day take it all off without fiddling with belt loops. The duty belt concept. It is important to be first inline at the bar at the end of the day.

 

[Cls.44]

Your initial post does not mention rifle, bolt or double - or caliber, but you do question if a culling belt is "over-the-top, over kill, or uncomfortable.

I can speak only from my personal experience and preference. My first consideration for ammo is access, second is amount. My go-to rifle for dangerous game is a double and I use a culling belt. Watch a video of someone shooting and performing a quick reload on a double; break - both spent rounds eject, use your thumb and two fingers to draw two live rounds from the culling belt, roll your hand palm up as you bring the open rifle and hand together and drop the two rounds into the barrels, snap the rifle shut as you raise it back to your shoulder and you're back in the fight.

Having experienced one of those situations described by Altitude Sickness, turning and reaching for your back-up 458 Lott, only to watch it grow legs and disappear into the brush at a high rate of speed - is definitely an "oh-shit" moment.

When you go head to head with dangerous game you are putting yourself, your PH, the trackers, everyone around you, in harm's way. That is not the time to be more concerned with fashion over function. Not having tusks doesn't make an elephant less of a threat, in fact, it could be quite the opposite.

To address your question of uncomfortable; a culling belt does not use the loops on your pants, it goes on over, and for me, above my pants. I only wear it when I'm actively on the hunt. Remember access? I can rotate the belt to make my ammo more accessible if need be.

The folding wallets work great, I primarily use them to store extra ammo and attach them to belts on my day bag.

I do use the sliding pouches which have the bullets exposed for my 458 and 375. I put those on my regular belt, and if I'm using either the 458 or 375 for back up, I'll put one on the culling belt.

I have two of the Murray fold-over wallets which I will never use, I bought them when I was where you are now, you can have them if you want to try them out. They are for 375, I do know what caliber you might need. Send me your address and I'll send them to you.

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That's very generous of you! As it happens, I will be using a .375. PM will be incoming.

 

[Jack Stevens]

Your initial post does not mention rifle, bolt or double - or caliber, but you do question if a culling belt is "over-the-top, over kill, or uncomfortable.

I can speak only from my personal experience and preference. My first consideration for ammo is access, second is amount. My go-to rifle for dangerous game is a double and I use a culling belt. Watch a video of someone shooting and performing a quick reload on a double; break - both spent rounds eject, use your thumb and two fingers to draw two live rounds from the culling belt, roll your hand palm up as you bring the open rifle and hand together and drop the two rounds into the barrels, snap the rifle shut as you raise it back to your shoulder and you're back in the fight.

Having experienced one of those situations described by Altitude Sickness, turning and reaching for your back-up 458 Lott, only to watch it grow legs and disappear into the brush at a high rate of speed - is definitely an "oh-shit" moment.

When you go head to head with dangerous game you are putting yourself, your PH, the trackers, everyone around you, in harm's way. That is not the time to be more concerned with fashion over function. Not having tusks doesn't make an elephant less of a threat, in fact, it could be quite the opposite.

To address your question of uncomfortable; a culling belt does not use the loops on your pants, it goes on over, and for me, above my pants. I only wear it when I'm actively on the hunt. Remember access? I can rotate the belt to make my ammo more accessible if need be.

The folding wallets work great, I primarily use them to store extra ammo and attach them to belts on my day bag.

I do use the sliding pouches which have the bullets exposed for my 458 and 375. I put those on my regular belt, and if I'm using either the 458 or 375 for back up, I'll put one on the culling belt.

I have two of the Murray fold-over wallets which I will never use, I bought them when I was where you are now, you can have them if you want to try them out. They are for 375, I do know what caliber you might need. Send me your address and I'll send them to you.

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Looks stiff. Both my culling belts are flexible and comfortable.

Don’t go El Cheapo on a culling belt. …. Hemingway and Roark both would cross the street to avoid you.

 

[Russ16]

Just received a belt and three shell carriers from Jacques Tredoux. Very high quality work and dems like they will last forever. I can’t imagine you could beat them for the price.

 

[Franco]

Looks stiff. Both my culling belts are flexible and comfortable.

Don’t go El Cheapo on a culling belt. …. Hemingway and Roark both would cross the street to avoid you.

Jack,

If you are referring to the two items in the picture - those are ammo wallets not culling belts, as stated.

As to your reference to Hemingway and Roark, would you care to explain what you mean?

 

[BeeMaa]

Looks stiff. Both my culling belts are flexible and comfortable.

Don’t go El Cheapo on a culling belt. …. Hemingway and Roark both would cross the street to avoid you.

Jack,

If you are referring to the two items in the picture - those are ammo wallets not culling belts, as stated.

As to your reference to Hemingway and Roark, would you care to explain what you mean?

I think Robert Ruark would be more pissed that you two couldn't take the time to spell his name correctly than how you carried your ammo.

 

[Franco]

I think Robert Ruark would be more pissed that you two couldn't take the time to spell his name correctly than how you carried your ammo.

Sorry, when I wrote that I was not familiar with Robert Ruark, I was simply trying to understand Jack's post, thank you for enlightening me.
Based on what you said, would Ruark be pissed the correct spelling of his name is identified as misspelled when typed in this forum?

 

[Jack Stevens]

I think Robert Ruark would be more pissed that you two couldn't take the time to spell his name correctly than how you carried your ammo.

You are correct. It was accidental but still impolite to have mispelled Ruark for Roark. One was a famous author; the other a famous architect.

 

[Franco]

My legal first name has 10 letters, my last name 12; they are both misspelled and mispronounced often. I've learned not to lose sight of the intent by focusing on a misspelling. Autocorrect doesn't help.

 

[Rafiki]

My experience is very limited here but I ended up going with cartridge slides on an additional belt that went over the top of my normal belt. I loved this combo as it was very comfortable. I went with the Els and Co Somerset pouches for double rifles and then got their canvas belt. It worked great for my double rifle as it separates out the rounds in groups of two .../

I wholeheartedly agree. I bought the same pouch for my .500 in 2022 and it worked great although I shoot a Ruger No 1 so having the double rifle setup was unneeded. I gave it to my PH at the end of that safari.

I got 2 more for my most recent safari; one for my .375 and another for the .500 but this one holds 8 cartridges instead of 6. On completion of this safari I gave the .375 version to my PH.

These things are top quality. I wear mine on my right front hip for fast easy reload with a Ruger No 1.