COVID-19 Coronavirus UPDATES, BANS, CLOSURES, ADVISORY, etc.

[WAB]

These discussions of a total lockdown are about to drive me nuts. Do your lights come on? Do you have food to eat? You are not in total lockdown. Power plants, oil refineries, pipelines, paper mills, chemical plants, the entire distribution infrastructure, are all running. We are getting ready to plant in North America. That takes diesel, Ag chemicals, seed, paper, cardboard, plastic, the list goes on. Do not kid yourself into thinking we are in total lockdown. If we were we would be on a six month ticket to mass die off due to starvation and disease. What we have done is stop or reduce non-essential retail, education, social gatherings, etc.. listening to some of the news I get the impression that folks think lights come on and food appears by magic.

 

[Hogpatrol]

The Democratic Party needs to rename itself to The Negativity Party or Never Satisfied Party. They have gone off the deep end during this crisis.

 

[BRICKBURN]

Am I the only one who thinks our testing protocols are mixed up? Almost every country which is testing is testing people who are showing signs of sickness. Makes sense? Maybe, but . . . we've learned that many, many people who actually have Covid-19 will be completely asymptomatic. These people will not be tested under current protocols, yet they can spread the virus as easily as someone who is showing symptoms. Equally, we are told that people can shed the virus for up to 48 hours before symptoms begin to show. Again, these people can spread the virus before they are tested.

I'm not a doctor, nor a public health expert. But it does strike me that testing only sick people is a sure way of ensuring a continued supply of sick people.

Have I missed something?

Not missing a thing.

Without Isolation of possible source people /and or 2 Metre distancing (droplet protocol) being followed religiously (breaking the chain), testing only the sick will do just as you stated; Create more sick people by missing sick people and giving a false sense of security.

• You also can't test everyone. Testing everyone repeatedly! Who has those resources?

• Testing. It's a point in time measurement.

Walk out negative and go swap spit with an infected person, .

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[Red Leg]

I telecommute for my job. Sometimes I don't see anyone from the company for months at a time. I work alone, and only come in contact with a few people during the work day. They now have a new policy, that I need to call in every morning to confirm that, I, or my household is not ill, or have any symptoms.

Don't "transmit" over a landline!

 

[lwaters]

So far we have not had one cause of the virus in Geary County Kansas. No cases at Ft.Riley. Two cases in Manhattan in Riley County. One case a college professor and another a soldier both were brought in from somewhere else. Of course we don't have a lot of people wanting to come here. Now the county don't want us to burn pastures. I quess to much smoke for the two sick people. I quess the main thing is you just don't want to get sick at the peak when the hospitals are full.

 

[Pheroze]

An interesting graphic of total number of cases over time. It tuns if you give it a second

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-N_L7Jjqlf/?igshid=1cr5kpa82dwsc

 

[lwaters]

Man all these statistics and graphs would drive a guy nuts. Like the old saying figures don't lie but liers figure.

 

[Standard Velocity]

Am I the only one who thinks our testing protocols are mixed up? Almost every country which is testing is testing people who are showing signs of sickness. Makes sense? Maybe, but . . . we've learned that many, many people who actually have Covid-19 will be completely asymptomatic. These people will not be tested under current protocols, yet they can spread the virus as easily as someone who is showing symptoms. Equally, we are told that people can shed the virus for up to 48 hours before symptoms begin to show. Again, these people can spread the virus before they are tested.

I'm not a doctor, nor a public health expert. But it does strike me that testing only sick people is a sure way of ensuring a continued supply of sick people.

Have I missed something?

I see two scenarios that both center on testing:

1. Testing becomes widely available and we find it’s not as bad as the worst case scenarios predicted.

2. Testing becomes widely available and we find out there are hordes of asymptomatic sick spreading it far and wide.

If the tests had been available in adequate quantities at the beginning we would have a much better picture of what’s going on.

I fear that in a couple of months we will be bemoaning why we didn’t take drastic measures in the first weeks of the outbreak.

If we had, there may have been a temporary nosedive in the economy, lots of furious people and a quick rebound. All the pissed off people would get to say “I told you so” and everyone gets to go on like nothing happened.

Instead, we have taken baby steps towards curbing this thing out of justifiable fear. Fear of wrecking the economy, fear of pissing off voters, fear of being wrong, etc. Our hesitation may have allowed this to get a firm toehold.

I’d rather be wrong than right on this. Pretty sure it’s gonna get worse before it gets better though.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Budweiser commercial

 

[Hogpatrol]

I see two scenarios that both center on testing:

1. Testing becomes widely available and we find it’s not as bad as the worst case scenarios predicted.

2. Testing becomes widely available and we find out there are hordes of asymptomatic sick spreading it far and wide.

If the tests had been available in adequate quantities at the beginning we would have a much better picture of what’s going on.

I fear that in a couple of months we will be bemoaning why we didn’t take drastic measures in the first weeks of the outbreak.

If we had, there may have been a temporary nosedive in the economy, lots of furious people and a quick rebound. All the pissed off people would get to say “I told you so” and everyone gets to go on like nothing happened.

Instead, we have taken baby steps towards curbing this thing out of justifiable fear. Fear of wrecking the economy, fear of pissing off voters, fear of being wrong, etc. Our hesitation may have allowed this to get a firm toehold.

I’d rather be wrong than right on this. Pretty sure it’s gonna get worse before it gets better though.

We dicked around the edges because of MONEY, the Super Bowl, Daytona 500, Spring Break, Mardi Gras, St. Patrick's Day and other huge money making venues. Now it's time to pay the piper.

 

[Red Leg]

I see two scenarios that both center on testing:

1. Testing becomes widely available and we find it’s not as bad as the worst case scenarios predicted.

2. Testing becomes widely available and we find out there are hordes of asymptomatic sick spreading it far and wide.

If the tests had been available in adequate quantities at the beginning we would have a much better picture of what’s going on.

I fear that in a couple of months we will be bemoaning why we didn’t take drastic measures in the first weeks of the outbreak.

If we had, there may have been a temporary nosedive in the economy, lots of furious people and a quick rebound. All the pissed off people would get to say “I told you so” and everyone gets to go on like nothing happened.

Instead, we have taken baby steps towards curbing this thing out of justifiable fear. Fear of wrecking the economy, fear of pissing off voters, fear of being wrong, etc. Our hesitation may have allowed this to get a firm toehold.

I’d rather be wrong than right on this. Pretty sure it’s gonna get worse before it gets better though.

If it is indeed number two, then actual death rate is far less than we fear.

 

[Red Leg]

We dicked around the edges because of MONEY, the Super Bowl, Daytona 500, Spring Break, Mardi Gras, St. Patrick's Day and other huge money making venues. Now it's time to pay the piper.

Who would have agreed to this level of disruption back in early February? Virtually no one. I think we are also fast learning, that viral pandemics of this level of contagiousness are essentially unstoppable in major urban areas.

 

[Hogpatrol]

Who would have agreed to this level of disruption back in early February? Virtually no one. I think we are also fast learning, that viral pandemics of this level of contagiousness are essentially unstoppable in major urban areas.

Transpose your last sentence to South Africa's major cities. Anyone thinking about going this year, do you really want to be at Tambo or any major Africa airport with workers you have no idea where they live or travel within the city or country? If the answer is yes, it'd be downright foolhardy to not have a Global Rescue or other medical evacuation insurance in force.

 

[Chago]

These discussions of a total lockdown are about to drive me nuts. Do your lights come on? Do you have food to eat? You are not in total lockdown. Power plants, oil refineries, pipelines, paper mills, chemical plants, the entire distribution infrastructure, are all running. We are getting ready to plant in North America. That takes diesel, Ag chemicals, seed, paper, cardboard, plastic, the list goes on. Do not kid yourself into thinking we are in total lockdown. If we were we would be on a six month ticket to mass die off due to starvation and disease. What we have done is stop or reduce non-essential retail, education, social gatherings, etc.. listening to some of the news I get the impression that folks think lights come on and food appears by magic.

Come on man!!! You can't say santa isn't real in front of a bunch of children. Lol

 

[Red Leg]

Transpose your last sentence to South Africa's major cities. Anyone thinking about going this year, do you really want to be at Tambo or any major Africa airport with workers you have no idea where they live or travel within the city or country? If the answer is yes, it'd be downright foolhardy to not have a Global Rescue or other medical evacuation insurance in force.

Would be interesting to check with Global Rescue and the other med-evac providers if they will respond to a pandemic. Almost every other insurance has a force majeure clause.

 

[Chago]

Transpose your last sentence to South Africa's major cities. Anyone thinking about going this year, do you really want to be at Tambo or any major Africa airport with workers you have no idea where they live or travel within the city or country? If the answer is yes, it'd be downright foolhardy to not have a Global Rescue or other medical evacuation insurance in force.

Ya I was supposed to go may 28. I moved it to August 2nd. But in all honesty I'm not holding my breath at this point. This is their summer. I am hoping now that winter approaches it have a second waive down there. Cause if you look right now the southern hemisphere isn't nearly as bad as the northern. Which is strange as a lot of those countries have poor healthcare and infrastructure. So it could be the season. Here's to hope this all blows over for the whole world by then.

 

[Standard Velocity]

Ya I was supposed to go may 28. I moved it to August 2nd. But in all honesty I'm not holding my breath at this point. This is their summer. I am hoping now that winter approaches it have a second waive down there. Cause if you look right now the southern hemisphere isn't nearly as bad as the northern. Which is strange as a lot of those countries have poor healthcare and infrastructure. So it could be the season. Here's to hope this all blows over for the whole world by then.

Hopefully first world countries get it figured out before it gets bad in the poorer countries South of the equator. If this picks up momentum there the death toll will be catastrophic. Maybe Europe and US will be over the hump by then and can afford to send some of these ventilators we’re making.

 

[Areaonereal]

I can not help but think this virus will have a truly drastic reduction in numbers of hunters traveling to SA or Namibia and surrounding countries for years to come....I was scheduled for my June departure to Namibia, but know that will not happen and am concerned in time this virus will always be lurking out there. It will be a leap of faith to board a plane with 250++ others and spend 16 hours of close quarters, to say nothing of becoming “hospitalized” in third world country if you become infected, while waiting for Global Rescue to get you home.

 

[BRICKBURN]

Don't "transmit" over a landline!

The next company policy will be to wear a mask to speak on the phone, Skype or FaceTime.

 

[BRICKBURN]

I ........... and am concerned in time this virus will always be lurking out there. ...........

VACCINE!