China buys Africa - $50 billion

[Hunter4752001]

For a continent that spent much money and blood achieving independence from European colonialism, they seem in an awful hurry to encourage the new colonialism.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/chinas-xi-promises-50-billion-for-africa-over-next-three-years/news-story/c99eb7e7607245504db57b749df5597e

 

[TERMINATOR]

You can bet at least $25 Billion of that will find it’s way into the personal bank accounts of African Government Officials

 

[Philip Glass]

These articles just say “Africa” with no mention of what countries!

 

[deewayne2003]

Yeah China has been at this for a long time and while the U.S.A. is trying to spread the ideals of equality, the Chinese are spreading their tentacles of control to any nation on earth with natural resources.

If you don't believe me, then check out this documentary from 2011..... Empire of dust

 

[TERMINATOR]

These articles just say “Africa” with no mention of what countries!

Well Nigeria, Kenya, Zambia, Zimbabwe and Tanzania were specifically mentioned.

The “50 leaders” will all be lining their pockets 100%

 

[TERMINATOR]

Yeah China has been at this for a long time and while the U.S.A. is trying to spread the ideals of equality, the Chinese are spreading their tentacles of control to any nation on earth with natural resources.

If you don't believe me, then check out this documentary from 2011..... Empire of dust

100%

Control of Africa’s resources is what it is all about

 

[steve white]

That would be too cheap for Nigeria alone...then again, the Africans will only renege on it all after the money has changed hands.

 

[Rare Breed]

For a continent that spent much money and blood achieving independence from European colonialism, they seem in an awful hurry to encourage the new colonialism.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/chinas-xi-promises-50-billion-for-africa-over-next-three-years/news-story/c99eb7e7607245504db57b749df5597e

When I was in Zim this year my PH laughingly pointed out the chinese investment in power lines that were all either at 45 degree angles or on the ground nary a single one even close to straight but then he said they were making a huge investment for the minerals

 

[Doubleplay]

This is nothing new.
China has been investing in Africa for couple decades now.
They have military bases there as well.
We're way behind the game.

 

[Brent in Az]

Africa selling it's soul to the devil.

 

[Piet-Vis]

Africa selling it's soul to the devil.

The devil has long reigned supreme over here.

 

[Jason Miller]

What I find interesting (and I spend probably a third of the year working in Africa) is many Kenyans and especially Ugandans still blame colonialism for every struggle they are facing, meantime I have done some projects where the Chinese were involved and you would be shocked how they treat the local Africans that work for them. I mean straight out of the 1800's, even physically abusing them when they screw up as well as verbally. There are Youtube videos of some of the abuse.

Once I was riding along a highway project (in Namibia) that was funded by Chinese, the tractors operators and supervisors were Chinese and labor of course local Africans. We were stopped in traffic so I just sat on a motorcycle and could watch. It looked like a scene from an old slave movie or prison movie the way the locals were lined up shoveling rock and dirt while the "Supervisors" stood over them yelling. Shocking ...

Yet, Its the French or British that are to blame. It will be interesting to see what the next 20 years looks like in Africa.

 

[Jason Miller]

What I find interesting (and I spend probably a third of the year working in Africa) is many Kenyans and especially Ugandans still blame colonialism for every struggle they are facing, meantime I have done some projects where the Chinese were involved and you would be shocked how they treat the local Africans that work for them. I mean straight out of the 1800's, even physically abusing them when they screw up as well as verbally. There are Youtube videos of some of the abuse.

Once I was riding along a highway project (in Namibia) that was funded by Chinese, the tractors operators and supervisors were Chinese and labor of course local Africans. We were stopped in traffic so I just sat on a motorcycle and could watch. It looked like a scene from an old slave movie or prison movie the way the locals were lined up shoveling rock and dirt while the "Supervisors" stood over them yelling. Shocking ...

Yet, Its the French or British that are to blame. It will be interesting to see what the next 20 years looks like in Africa.

I hate to paint with a broad brush and after posting this, I remembered a Chinese guy I had heard about in Zambia, He seems to have the same love for Africa we all do and also seems fair with the locals..

 

[deewayne2003]

What I find interesting (and I spend probably a third of the year working in Africa) is many Kenyans and especially Ugandans still blame colonialism for every struggle they are facing, meantime I have done some projects where the Chinese were involved and you would be shocked how they treat the local Africans that work for them. I mean straight out of the 1800's, even physically abusing them when they screw up as well as verbally. There are Youtube videos of some of the abuse.

Once I was riding along a highway project (in Namibia) that was funded by Chinese, the tractors operators and supervisors were Chinese and labor of course local Africans. We were stopped in traffic so I just sat on a motorcycle and could watch. It looked like a scene from an old slave movie or prison movie the way the locals were lined up shoveling rock and dirt while the "Supervisors" stood over them yelling. Shocking ...

Yet, Its the French or British that are to blame. It will be interesting to see what the next 20 years looks like in Africa.

My first trip to Africa was this July in Zimbabwe, the locals of all races seemed to all agree that the Chinese influence was negative and I was shown some videos that were circulating person to person via cell phone apps showing appalling treatment.

One particular video showed a Chinese mine supervisor using a sjambok made out of tire tread to beat 3 workers while screaming "NO WORK NO MEALIE MEAL!, NO WORK NO MEALIE MEAL!"

Sjambok - Wikipedia

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Mielie meal - Wikipedia

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Then upon departure at Robert Mugabe airport I got to witness Chinese supervisors overseeing the remodeling of the airport; it was blatantly obvious that management had ZERO concern for the safety of the workers to the point of malice.

 

[Doubleplay]

What I find interesting (and I spend probably a third of the year working in Africa) is many Kenyans and especially Ugandans still blame colonialism for every struggle they are facing, meantime I have done some projects where the Chinese were involved and you would be shocked how they treat the local Africans that work for them. I mean straight out of the 1800's, even physically abusing them when they screw up as well as verbally. There are Youtube videos of some of the abuse.

Once I was riding along a highway project (in Namibia) that was funded by Chinese, the tractors operators and supervisors were Chinese and labor of course local Africans. We were stopped in traffic so I just sat on a motorcycle and could watch. It looked like a scene from an old slave movie or prison movie the way the locals were lined up shoveling rock and dirt while the "Supervisors" stood over them yelling. Shocking ...

Yet, Its the French or British that are to blame. It will be interesting to see what the next 20 years looks like in Africa.

This is not something inherent to Africa, it's same way inside China as well.
Remember there are concentration work camps in China.

 

[OxfordTheCat]

How is it a any different than the US, French, or UK foreign investment that has taken place over the last sixty years?

 

[HankBuck]

You can bet at least $25 Billion of that will find it’s way into the personal bank accounts of African Government Officials

@TERMINATOR - Wow, they bought an entire “Continent” for $50billion??

 

[Beefeater]

You can bet at least $25 Billion of that will find it’s way into the personal bank accounts of African Government Officials

And you can bet that bank account is in a tax haven in "the West".

 

[HankBuck]

How is it an any different than the US, French, or UK foreign investment that has taken place over the last sixty years?

@OxfordTheCat - the US, France, and UK are NOT Communist Countries and I’m much more comfortable with their investments for that reason alone.

 

[TERMINATOR]

@TERMINATOR - Wow, they bought an entire “Continent” for $50billion??

No, they just bought access to all the minerals and oil. They have no use for the real estate itself. You don't want to actually own the land you strip mine after the minerals are gone.