Cartridges you just hate

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Well, hate may be a strong word. But it makes for a good click-bait.

In any case, lately I have been running into people who, when asked, what rifle caliber they would like to buy now, reply .308 Winchester. Now, do not get me wrong, I not only like the .308 fundamentally as a cartridge and always wanted a rifle chambered in one, but I even own a few. However, having had and still owning several, every time I get one, I wonder why I bothered. I need one for Palma style/FTR matches. But for hunting, if I shoot .30 cal, I shoot .30-06. If I wanted more power and recoil, I'd shoot .300WM or .300WSM or .300 PRC. I do not want/need that. So ought-six it is. Pretty much same availability as .308, pretty much the same price, pretty much the same choice of bullets. Actually better I'd say. So why would anyone need or want the .308? Ugly ass, short cartridge.

I also do not like .243 Win. And when I remember it is based on .308, I dislike it even more. What do you need 6mm for anyway? If I was hunting smaller animals in Europe, I'd use 6.5 of some kind. Probably 6.5x57. Or 6.5x55. Or maybe even that 6.5 Creedmoor.

I hate .25-06, yet my buddy kills deer and elk with it at distance on regular basis.

I hate .270 Win. Just Weird caliber to me. Too much recoil and blast for what it is. Plus everyone loves it "sooo much".

I used to hate 6.5 Creedmoor without ever even firing or seeing one. Probably because everyone liked it "sooo much", like the .270. So, I decided to get one to be able to substantiate my "hate". Well, it turns out, it's falling into the same bucket as the .308. Nice, yet nothing special. Wanted to hunt with it this season but did not get out enough, so was not successful in filling my tags. So, jury is still out. But it only sends 140gr bullet at 2625 out of my 20" barrel. Switching to 130gr Terminal Ascent, I can send it at 2718fps, so good enough to 400m or so. But even if it kills deer well, I hate Short Actions and will go back to 7mm for hunting...wait, maybe that is why I do not like the .308 or .243. Maybe it's that one is really limited by the COAL of these. But at least I like the 6.5CM more than the .308 and will probably use it to replace 6.5x55 to punch paper and shoot occasional coyote.

I dunno. I also hate .416 Rigby. I like how it looks, I hate the recoil, muzzle blast and concussion.

I also do not like Weatherby cartridges, belted cartridges (except .375H&H, .458 Lott), magnum cartridges, big kickers - like the .416 (except .458 Lott and have yet to try .404 Jeffery), rimmed cartridges, any weird ones. I almost wonder why I like anything at all. Maybe I'm getting old and crusty.

I used to like .458 Lott but it's no longer with me. Same with .338WM and .300 WM. Who needs all that recoil and blast anyway? That .338 sure killed good though.

I do like .22 LR, 7x57, 7x64, 280 AI, 8x57, 9.3x62, 9.3x64, .375H&H (though once I shoot up all the ammo it's gone).

I also like 8mm-06, 338-06and 35 Whelen never even firing one of these - so you could say I like things based on 30-06, rather than .308. But I kind of like the 6.5CM, yet do hate that .25-06 and .25 or .277 anything.

I also like .505 Gibbs, .50 BMG not having fired either of these. So how do I know if I like them? Would probably hate the recoil and concussive blast.

I might like 7mm-08 even though it's based on .308, but then I'd probably go for 7mm SAW or 7 SAUM if I wanted a SA 7mm.

Now...Do NOT take this post as criticism of YOUR favorite cartridge (should it happen to be one of the ones I do not favor) but rather as a statement that I recognize I may have completely irrational dislike for some cartridges and still end up owning them, shooting them, but for some unknown reason still hating them. Then one tries to figure it out and comes up with some reasons or rationalizations behind the dislike. Yet it all seems false in some way. In the end I like that we have so many different cartridges to choose from.

However, the main reason for this post:
Do you also hate or dislike some specific cartridge or class of cartridges? For real reasons or just so? Are we nuts? Am I?
 
I personally have zero hatred for mechanical things. I choose a cartridge and rifle (or gauge and shotgun) based on my needs and wants. Others make their own choices. Reminds me of the Ford versus Chevy arguments in my high school cafeteria. That’s just me….others are free to love and hate what they wish.
 
Well, hate may be a strong word. But it makes for a good click-bait.

In any case, lately I have been running into people who, when asked, what rifle caliber they would like to buy now, reply .308 Winchester. Now, do not get me wrong, I not only like the .308 fundamentally as a cartridge and always wanted a rifle chambered in one, but I even own a few. However, having had and still owning several, every time I get one, I wonder why I bothered. I need one for Palma style/FTR matches. But for hunting, if I shoot .30 cal, I shoot .30-06. If I wanted more power and recoil, I'd shoot .300WM or .300WSM or .300 PRC. I do not want/need that. So ought-six it is. Pretty much same availability as .308, pretty much the same price, pretty much the same choice of bullets. Actually better I'd say. So why would anyone need or want the .308? Ugly ass, short cartridge.

I also do not like .243 Win. And when I remember it is based on .308, I dislike it even more. What do you need 6mm for anyway? If I was hunting smaller animals in Europe, I'd use 6.5 of some kind. Probably 6.5x57. Or 6.5x55. Or maybe even that 6.5 Creedmoor.

I hate .25-06, yet my buddy kills deer and elk with it at distance on regular basis.

I hate .270 Win. Just Weird caliber to me. Too much recoil and blast for what it is. Plus everyone loves it "sooo much".

I used to hate 6.5 Creedmoor without ever even firing or seeing one. Probably because everyone liked it "sooo much", like the .270. So, I decided to get one to be able to substantiate my "hate". Well, it turns out, it's falling into the same bucket as the .308. Nice, yet nothing special. Wanted to hunt with it this season but did not get out enough, so was not successful in filling my tags. So, jury is still out. But it only sends 140gr bullet at 2625 out of my 20" barrel. Switching to 130gr Terminal Ascent, I can send it at 2718fps, so good enough to 400m or so. But even if it kills deer well, I hate Short Actions and will go back to 7mm for hunting...wait, maybe that is why I do not like the .308 or .243. Maybe it's that one is really limited by the COAL of these. But at least I like the 6.5CM more than the .308 and will probably use it to replace 6.5x55 to punch paper and shoot occasional coyote.

I dunno. I also hate .416 Rigby. I like how it looks, I hate the recoil, muzzle blast and concussion.

I also do not like Weatherby cartridges, belted cartridges (except .375H&H, .458 Lott), magnum cartridges, big kickers - like the .416 (except .458 Lott and have yet to try .404 Jeffery), rimmed cartridges, any weird ones. I almost wonder why I like anything at all. Maybe I'm getting old and crusty.

I used to like .458 Lott but it's no longer with me. Same with .338WM and .300 WM. Who needs all that recoil and blast anyway? That .338 sure killed good though.

I do like .22 LR, 7x57, 7x64, 280 AI, 8x57, 9.3x62, 9.3x64, .375H&H (though once I shoot up all the ammo it's gone).

I also like 8mm-06, 338-06and 35 Whelen never even firing one of these - so you could say I like things based on 30-06, rather than .308. But I kind of like the 6.5CM, yet do hate that .25-06 and .25 or .277 anything.

I also like .505 Gibbs, .50 BMG not having fired either of these. So how do I know if I like them? Would probably hate the recoil and concussive blast.

I might like 7mm-08 even though it's based on .308, but then I'd probably go for 7mm SAW or 7 SAUM if I wanted a SA 7mm.

Now...Do NOT take this post as criticism of YOUR favorite cartridge (should it happen to be one of the ones I do not favor) but rather as a statement that I recognize I may have completely irrational dislike for some cartridges and still end up owning them, shooting them, but for some unknown reason still hating them. Then one tries to figure it out and comes up with some reasons or rationalizations behind the dislike. Yet it all seems false in some way. In the end I like that we have so many different cartridges to choose from.

However, the main reason for this post:
Do you also hate or dislike some specific cartridge or class of cartridges? For real reasons or just so? Are we nuts? Am I?
I don’t really hate them.
But I really don’t like the 22 center fire used on deer.
Really not a big fan of the 308-30-06
 
I don’t really hate any of them. I always get entertained by folks arguing for or against the 6.5 creedmore. I don’t reload so like calibers where ammo is readily available. I think if you have 12 gauge, 270, 300 WM, 375 h and h, 416 rigby your ready for everything. Always enjoy listening to everyone’s guns/calibers on the forum but no way could I keep up with that many guns.
 
Oh yeah. I also hate 12GA and some pistol cartridges but thought I'd stop at rifle ones. :ROFLMAO:
 
I don’t really hate them.
But I really don’t like the 22 center fire used on deer.
Really not a big fan of the 308-30-06
Hmmm...forgot to mention I hate .223 but like .22 Hornet. Go figure.
What do you not like about .308/30-06?
 
I hate muzzleloaders of any kind and they hate me. They do everything in their power to make sure I mess something up when the moment of truth arrives. I killed my first deer when I was 12 with a hawken 50 cal and round ball. It’s been all downhill since then with me and those finicky bastards.
 
I owned a 340 wby Mag for a short period of time and hated it. Too angry. I HATE with a passion the obnoxious muzzle brakes on AR-15s.
 
I only hate calibers that I cant get ammo or supplies for to load, but its just because of my impatience.

I recently had a short lived (168 hour) hate for .450/400 NE 3 1/4” until I found dies and brass in Australia (Northern Shooters Supply). Now I like the round again, despite having never loaded or fired it.

Other than lack of availability, I love the regular ones and the weird ones. The stories behind the development of the round and its place in history generally intrigue me.

God bless the people who sell reloading dies and supplies with their unique caliber rifles, such as @AZDAVE and the .400 Whelen we traded :)
 
Just because or does it run deeper than that?
I don’t say hate just not a fan. I am partial to oddities, as I reload, it gives me more satisfaction in loading and hunting or even target practice with something I made.
 
Please don’t ban me from the forum, but I irrationally hate metric cartridges.

If its name is ## x ##, it drives me nuts. It’s not a fkn bolt, it’s a cartridge, give it a name it deserves.

I would never own a 7x57, but a 275 Rigby is fine by me.
 
The OP's question was interesting to me since I have a nostalgic fondness for the classics but really can't explain why. I shoot the 6.5x55, 275 Rigby, 303 British, 30-06, 9.3x74r, 375 H&H, 405 Win, 44 Mag & the 458 Win Mag. I would like to have a 35 Whelen or a 9.3x62. A 257 Roberts would be nice too. Everything that appeals was designed before I was born.

For reasons that I can't really justify I never wanted a 243 Win, 270 Win, 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag. I never considered anything with 338 in its name. I don't want a WSM, SAUM, RCM, PRC, RUM or an ARC so apparently I have an aversion to acronyms. I don't like Weatherby either as a rifle or a round. I don't have any western-style lever action rifles I also don't have a good explanation for where these quirks came from.
 
Hmmm. Funny thread. I want to like the .308 but I’ve owned a couple of annoying rifles in that cartridge that never would shoot well. No rational reason. I love using my PHs Tikka in .308 in Africa though.

I don’t love the 6.5 Creedmore. The .260 AI suits me fine and is better all-around.

I don’t love anything that isn’t accurate. A 1 MOA rifle is barely interesting, DG rifles slightly excluded.

I see no reason on this planet to ever own or use a .460 Wby. The .340 Wby isn’t my favorite, but my dad loved his. The .375 H&H is delightful. The .416 Rigby I love. The .416 Rem is a redesign that wasn’t needed.

I’ve never owned a .30-06. I’ve used them in Africa and they’re fine. I want to like the .350 Rem, but the 600 is so light it isn’t that much fun to shoot. Great timber rifle though.

I detest the 7 mm mag. No reason, other than a horrible rifle from my youth.
 
Hate is a strong word but for years I stayed away from belted magnums. When I was younger I read somewhere (don't remember where) about belted magnums having case head separation problems. I now have a 300 WM, 375 H&H, and a 416 rem mag, so i guess I'm over it.
 

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