Burkina Faso Hunt

[morioc]

That is a cheap price on a lion! But is this a safe place to go would be the question???

Caustin,

Do you know a safe place in our crazy world?
Best
Christophe

 

[morioc]

There was a phenomenal package not to long ago, I'm defiantly thinking about a trip there. Travel advisories really don't play a part in my decisions as long as I'm traveling by myself or with another able bodied person. I think it actually adds to the trip. I'm not saying I would go wander around by myself in some of these places nor some places in the US for that matter but I believe with proper research of a reputable PH, odds are you will be fine. I've found the less you act like a pompous ass your odds of being singled out as el jefe diminishes substantially.
A savannah buffalo would be sweet!
Cheers,
Cody

Hi Bullthrower338,

You are right, you have to make your research for a reputable PH.
But remember, cheap price does not always go with good hunting !!!
Buffalo, roan, cob, bushbuck and other are sweet !!!
best
Christophe

 

[morioc]

I would not hunt there no matter how inexpensive it is. It's a hot bed of terrorism.

Not sure about that !!
Best
Christophe

 

[morioc]

Others have said it, but to sum it up this hint is less for several reasons, and seema to be in line with what I've heard in the past (around $35k):

1. Area not classic or desirable to many
2. Less infrastructure
3. Risk level (whether real or perceived)
4. Smaller manes on the lion

I may also be confused with Benin, but I don't think baiting is allowed in BF? So it is walk and stalk, or tracking only. Free range and not fenced, I'd think that adds to the overall challenge and the hunter would certainly need to be in shape.

Safety wise, I'm with @Bullthrower338 . I'd like to go there someday and the current safety level wouldn't stop me. Going to the Chicago slums for charity work is dangerous too as is driving down the freeway. Opportunities like this are one of the last grand adventures we have I think.

I know a guy who hunted lion (successfully) in BF in 2014. He had a great time and was pleasantly surprised with how safe he felt. Now he is not average and has hunted the world, but he said he'd have no issue going back again.

Hi Royal27,

You are not allowed to bait lion in both country.
We hunt lion (in Benin) by tracking, walk and stalk and by calling.
You are dead right about safety !!! looks like it is a big issue.
Shit can happen everywhere at anytime, unfortunately. This is our world gents...

Best
Christophe

 

[CAustin]

Caustin,

Do you know a safe place in our crazy world?
Best
Christophe

Respectfully sir Yes I do! Safer than that place. Safety aside........
I will give you this........the offered hunt should be a grand adventure and it's at a fair price.
Like you say
Best
Charlie

 

[Bullthrower338]

Christophe,
Great comments! Love the single shot shotgun reference, that was exactly what I had pictured in my mind. Most people that find their selves in life or death situations didn't do proper research. Finding a respectable PH is the keystone to a memorable and enjoyable hunt. If you ran a promotion of only every third client gets beheaded, you would not be in business I'd say after the first client met his demise. Haha.
A guy can get by in a tamer part of the world with joe shit the rag man as your guide, but in volitile countries the extra greenbacks are well spent to get the guy packing a G3 and a glock rather than the Stevens single shot. This guy is aware of situations and knows what and where to avoid them.
Cheers,
Cody

 

[ActionBob]

Hell Charlie didn't you just spend multiple days in Chicago? Braver than me! Murder rate there is a lot higher than in Benin or Burkina Faso.

 

[Royal27]

So this made me think... How likely are you to be killed in BF vs. other places? A quick non-scientific look:

Murder rate per 100K:
Canada - 1.8
Burkina Faso - 18
South Africa - 34
United States - 5
Zim - 14
Kansas City - 23

So yes, there are safer places than BF. There are worse places too though, and not all as far away from home as one might think.

Safety is a very personal thing and there are certainly more considerations than murder rate. To me a place like BF is a grand and remote adventure that you can't have many places and that few of us get an opportunity to do. Hope I get to hunt with @christophe morio one day!

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

Hello Phoenix Phill,

I am not talking about the lions as the quotas are very low per hunting blocks (1 animal) and it is not possible to get it in USA. The last survey of the WAP (all the parks and hunting areas from Burkina, Benin and Niger which is about 2 million hectares) from 2015 shows a population of 400 lions.
You are right when you say it is not a prime destination and the companies are not marketing well. But for me it a great hunting destination. It is wild, remote, unfenced with precious animals like west African buffalo, Roan, nagor reedbuck, harnessed bushbuck that you hunt by tracking, walking. very animal you get is a challenge which is for me the must of hunting.
If one comes with a list, he is making a mistake... Go, hunt, enjoy and you'll get a great experience.
It gets hot in this part of Africa by mid March and April. I don't really care as I am used to it but we make our best to get confortable accommodation with AC or fan in the chalets and ice cube for the drinks when hunters are back from the bush !!!
It is definitely a place to experience.
Best
Christophe

I'd personally love to do the lion hunting, regardless of whether I could import or not. On foot would just be fantastic. If one is abiding by shooting only older males, I would think it quite the challenge. But if one is successful in taking an older lion by such means, the accomplishment would mean so much more than having the taxidermy.

Someday I do hope to be up in that part of the world after LDE or Bongo, a better stock market would help in that endeavor!

 

[Royal27]

So this made me think... How likely are you to be killed in BF vs. other places? A quick non-scientific look:

Murder rate per 100K:
Canada - 1.8
Burkina Faso - 18
South Africa - 34
United States - 5
Zim - 14
Kansas City - 23

So yes, there are safer places than BF. There are worse places too though, and not all as far away from home as one might think.

Safety is a very personal thing and there are certainly more considerations than murder rate. To me a place like BF is a grand and remote adventure that you can't have many places and that few of us get an opportunity to do. Hope I get to hunt with @christophe morio one day!

Oops!

Meant to link source data.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/oct/10/world-murder-rate-unodc

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/o...rder-statistics-are-worse-than-you-think.html

 

[NickyMaz]

So this made me think... How likely are you to be killed in BF vs. other places? A quick non-scientific look:

Murder rate per 100K:
Canada - 1.8
Burkina Faso - 18
South Africa - 34
United States - 5
Zim - 14
Kansas City - 23

So yes, there are safer places than BF. There are worse places too though, and not all as far away from home as one might think.

Safety is a very personal thing and there are certainly more considerations than murder rate. To me a place like BF is a grand and remote adventure that you can't have many places and that few of us get an opportunity to do. Hope I get to hunt with @christophe morio one day!

I'm sorry but one metric does not tell the full story. I would love to hunt in Burkina Faso but Northern Africa has an issue with Al Qaeda and other islamic extremists groups. Is an attack likely to happen? Probably not, but let's not ignore it or gloss over it. The states in this region are very weak with large ungovered and ungovernable regions that are perfect for groups like AQ to use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Ouagadougou_attacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda_in_the_Islamic_Maghreb
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/burkina-faso/terrorism
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/burkina-faso-travel-warning.html

 

[Royal27]

I'm sorry but one metric does not tell the full story. I would love to hunt in Burkina Faso but Northern Africa has an issue with Al Qaeda and other islamic extremists groups. Is an attack likely to happen? Probably not, but let's not ignore it or gloss over it. The states in this region are very weak with large ungovered and ungovernable regions that are perfect for groups like AQ to use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Ouagadougou_attacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda_in_the_Islamic_Maghreb
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/burkina-faso/terrorism
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/burkina-faso-travel-warning.html

Safety is a very personal thing and there are certainly more considerations than murder rate.

Stated there were more considerations in my original post. Not ignoring or glossing over. It's wilder than 90 minutes from Joberg, no doubt, and not for everyone. That's part of the allure for me. For others it might definitely be a show stopper.

 

[Nyati]

If....I could afford it, and if....I had the space for some of those interesting trophies, I would certainly book a hunt with someone as experienced as Christophe.

By the way, a ladyfriend of mine regularly travels alone to Burkina Faso and Mali without any problems.

 

[Scott Slough]

I will go to bed less stupid tonight.

Retired on a fixed income, never going to happen. I'll have to stick with PG and Namibia or RSA

If you are retired and still hunting Africa you are smarting than I am!

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

If you are retired and still hunting Africa you are smarting than I am!

Better grammar too....

 

[Wheels]

Better grammar too....

Your a smarting aleck

 

[curtism1234]

that there is an Al Queda presence, etc..

And that's where you lost me

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

Your a smarting aleck

Yes, I are!

 

[lcq]

If you are retired and still hunting Africa you are smarting than I am!

I'll hunt till I can't get the wheelchair through the field

 

[Royal27]

I'll hunt till I can't get the wheelchair through the field

Figuring out how to move the wheelchair over the rocks is the PH's problem, not yours.