Buffalo caliber advice

[PeteG]

Any chance of opting for a blow dart gun with a muzzle brake?

Damn muzzle brakes find their way into every reasonable discussion!
No muzzle brakes ever!
If anything i’d put a suppressor or two on though.
Apparently using two suppressors in line acts like a longer barrel and you can double the speed of the dart (or bullet).
Don’t know why everyone doesn’t do this as standard?? It would solve the 458WM vs 458lott argument for good.

 

[Tra3]

When you settle on a caliber, make sure to put a sightron 10-50x60 scope on it and a 20 MOA rail. I firmly believe that we should all have only one rifle that can do everything. That scope will work nicely on the .22 LR AI cheytak or even a blow gun.

I’d also suggest sharpening the end of the suppressor in case there were to happen some close range action.

 

[BRICKBURN]

I want video of the Zambian version of the Goat roping incident.

See if you can beat this one! I dare you!

 

[BeeMaa]

I've always preferred a squirt gun, but I've only used them on Water Buffalo...

 

[Hoss Delgado]

The other posters have given some GOLD answers
Hypothetically speaking though , you COULD kill a Buffalo with a .30-06 . Of course it's illegal and unsafe , and l would question the sanity of anyone who cared to try. But it might be worth telling that in the late 1960s to 1970 , my Father Did infact hunt a few Gaur ( Indian bison ) and Nilgai ( Indian Blue Bull ) on his hunting trips to India . Given India's strict Import rules at the time ( which unfortunately , is Far more unreasonable and strict now ) , a hunter there could only bring 2 fire arms and 250 rounds of Ammunition with him into the country. My dad had brought one Enfield 1917 in .30-06 with him and no other gun and his ammo was military surplus FMJ Spitzer rounds ( probably AP , but l am not sure ) . He did dispatch quite a few of them gaurs with the brain shot from a .30-06 . Apparently you have to imagine an obtuse angle between the Bison's horns or something to figure out where the brain is .But Dad also mentioned that , even though those .30-06 Tapered point solids often floored the Bison and instantly killed it by teaching the brain , there were a lot of occasions , when the bullets would slightly deviate from a straight course and angle off . This of course , meant that Dad's Shikari had to finish off those wounded bison with a Big Double rifle . I am guessing , ( using my layman's knowledge of ballistics ) that the tapered point of the .30-06 FMJs is what often caused them to angle off and deflect .
Of course , this was 50 years ago , and it is both illegal and suicide to try this feat today.
P.S : I do believe using a larger caliber meplat , like a .375 HH Magnum would have had less deflection.

 

[BeeMaa]

Hoss - I mean no offense as I have the utmost respect for you, but I believe you may have missed the point of this thread.

 

[Hoss Delgado]

Hoss - I mean no offense as I have the utmost respect for you, but I believe you may have missed the point of this thread.

I get it . He's jesting ! But l just didn't wanna give the impression that a .30-06 CANT kill a buff . I read every one else's reply before commenting. The OP clearly was pulling out leg(s) with a bit of humour .

 

[Royal27]

I must say I am a little concerned with the penetration of the 22LR at ranges of 300-400yds on a going away buff, I’m not sure the soft will penetrate through from the rear to the chest. Maybe I’m just being overly critical though...

No need for concern Pete because dead is dead.

1. Penetrates through to heart - dead
2. Causes infection and dies weeks later - dead
3. Just lodges under skin and causes lead poisoning - dead

 

[PeteG]

No need for concern Pete because dead is dead.

1. Penetrates through to heart - dead
2. Causes infection and dies weeks later - dead
3. Just lodges under skin and causes lead poisoning - dead

Gotcha, see that’s the kind of knowledge AH is good for

 

[tarbe]

There's more than one way to take out the "black death". Sometimes you just have to be creative (or lucky...yeah...luck - that's the ticket!).


https://video.search.yahoo.com/sear...d42ec11263f326738b07ea2aa637165c&action=click

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

There's more than one way to take out the "black death".

Like instead of small Jack Russel barking its head off, you could have a trained and trusty "Mr. Spots" finish off or at least keep at bay wounded "black death"!

 

[TMac]

I must say I am a little concerned with the penetration of the 22LR at ranges of 300-400yds on a going away buff, I’m not sure the soft will penetrate through from the rear to the chest. Maybe I’m just being overly critical though...

Concur with your 22LR penetration concern. What we have noticed is my 22LR bounces off my mild steel spinner target while my 17 HMR puts holes in it. We think the great penetration from the 17 is due to the sharp pointy plastic tips. You might consider the 17 or look for a 22 with those proven sharp pointy plastic points.

We get full penetration on sage rats with that load in my 17HMR. They are testy buggers if not hit with a good bullet. If wounded they are known to be more dangerous than the common mouse, albeit about 25% larger.

 

[AZDAVE]

A sling shot with a nice small marshmallow would get the trick done, just stalk up to around 2 meters and shoot him in the eye.

 

[PeteG]

A sling shot with a nice small marshmallow would get the trick done, just stalk up to around 2 meters and shoot him in the eye.

Clarify if this would be a frozen marshmallow or a room temperature marshmallow.
I just need to know if I have to hire a porter to carry the cooler box and ice to keep the marshmallows frozen or not.

 

[PeteG]

Like instead of small Jack Russel barking its head off, you could have a trained and trusty "Mr. Spots" finish off or at least keep at bay wounded "black death"!

Good idea
Tina in training

She can handle a little kitty cat, a bush cow shouldn’t be any problem

 

[BeeMaa]

Clarify if this would be a frozen marshmallow or a room temperature marshmallow.
I just need to know if I have to hire a porter to carry the cooler box and ice to keep the marshmallows frozen or not.

Light them on fire so it sticks better when they hit.
And a tasty treat while you take pictures.

 

[Royal27]

What we have noticed is my 22LR bounces off my mild steel spinner target

Remember though, there is a big difference between a target at the range and a Cape Buffalo in the wild, so you should he fine.

 

[AZDAVE]

@BeeMaa it would just be a straight out of the bag for the soft and a frozen one if you need a solid for backup. But it could just be kept in a small freezer bag with a little dry ice so no need for a cooler. Plus with such awesome fire power the PH could just sit in the bakkie with a cold one as he wouldn't have to worry about the hunter getting stomped.

 

[BeeMaa]

@BeeMaa it would just be a straight out of the bag for the soft and a frozen one if you need a solid for backup. But it could just be kept in a small freezer bag with a little dry ice so no need for a cooler. Plus with such awesome fire power the PH could just sit in the bakkie with a cold one as he wouldn't have to worry about the hunter getting stomped.

Not sure I could handle that kind of firepower...I might develop a flinch.

 

[K-man]

@BeeMaa it would just be a straight out of the bag for the soft and a frozen one if you need a solid for backup. But it could just be kept in a small freezer bag with a little dry ice so no need for a cooler. Plus with such awesome fire power the PH could just sit in the bakkie with a cold one as he wouldn't have to worry about the hunter getting stomped.

I would be in trouble eating all my ammo before the shot... Better pass on that one.